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Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? HE PULLED A MAGIC TRICK, HES NOT AN NBA PLAYER!!! HES A CHINA LEVEL PLAYER!!!

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Post#681 » by wco81 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:34 am

Gives up blowbys to Green and Eason in 3rd quarter, can’t hit open 3. Bad 3 minute sequence for him.

Such a limited player, depends on assisted catch and shoot jumpers, otherwise nothing. Very limited.
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Post#682 » by wco81 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:32 am

GP2 had a huge game, got most of the 4th quarter minutes, scoring 16 points including 2-3 from 3. Moses had 7 points, only 1-5 from 3.

GP2 is a UFA after these playoffs, making $9.1 million. Moses is going to get his new extension kicking in starting next season, at $11.574 million, more than GP2 ever made in a season.

But it's not just this game, I think in the series, GP2 is a more reliable player. He's not suppose to be the 3-point shooter that Moody is. But he's probably at least as good a defender as Moody, probably better. And he can attack the rim, finish through contest as he did 2 or 3 times in the 4th quarter.

I have never seen Moody attack the rim as well.

Now I'm glad they extended Moody but what a huge missed opportunity, with so many better players chosen after him in that draft.

Unfortunately though, if the team can't keep GP2 after this season and one of the reasons is contracts given to other role players like Moses, it's really going to suck for next season if they get into the playoffs again, because GP2 belongs in the closing lineup a lot more than Moody.
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Post#683 » by cpower » Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:52 am

wco81 wrote:GP2 had a huge game, got most of the 4th quarter minutes, scoring 16 points including 2-3 from 3. Moses had 7 points, only 1-5 from 3.

GP2 is a UFA after these playoffs, making $9.1 million. Moses is going to get his new extension kicking in starting next season, at $11.574 million, more than GP2 ever made in a season.

But it's not just this game, I think in the series, GP2 is a more reliable player. He's not suppose to be the 3-point shooter that Moody is. But he's probably at least as good a defender as Moody, probably better. And he can attack the rim, finish through contest as he did 2 or 3 times in the 4th quarter.

I have never seen Moody attack the rim as well.

Now I'm glad they extended Moody but what a huge missed opportunity, with so many better players chosen after him in that draft.

Unfortunately though, if the team can't keep GP2 after this season and one of the reasons is contracts given to other role players like Moses, it's really going to suck for next season if they get into the playoffs again, because GP2 belongs in the closing lineup a lot more than Moody.

Moody is too slow.. GP2 has the speed of point guard and finishing ability of forward.....if Moody can finish like GP2 he would be a star in this league
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? (finally he is an NBA caliber player!) 

Post#684 » by EvanZ » Sun Apr 27, 2025 5:45 am

wco81 wrote:GP2 had a huge game, got most of the 4th quarter minutes, scoring 16 points including 2-3 from 3. Moses had 7 points, only 1-5 from 3.

GP2 is a UFA after these playoffs, making $9.1 million. Moses is going to get his new extension kicking in starting next season, at $11.574 million, more than GP2 ever made in a season.

But it's not just this game, I think in the series, GP2 is a more reliable player. He's not suppose to be the 3-point shooter that Moody is. But he's probably at least as good a defender as Moody, probably better. And he can attack the rim, finish through contest as he did 2 or 3 times in the 4th quarter.

I have never seen Moody attack the rim as well.

Now I'm glad they extended Moody but what a huge missed opportunity, with so many better players chosen after him in that draft.

Unfortunately though, if the team can't keep GP2 after this season and one of the reasons is contracts given to other role players like Moses, it's really going to suck for next season if they get into the playoffs again, because GP2 belongs in the closing lineup a lot more than Moody.


What a dumb **** post lol
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Post#685 » by superunknown » Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:17 am

honestly, a pretty big letdown so far. he looks too slow out there on offense and defense but also as speed of thought.
he and kuminga not panning out (after wiseman) is what is really hampering this team right now. that's 3 lottery picks.
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Post#686 » by TB » Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:24 am

Logged on to celebrate the win and we have people for some reason criticizing Moses? He’s a major rotation piece helping us beat a 2 seed lol.
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Post#687 » by wco81 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:58 am

TB wrote:Logged on to celebrate the win and we have people for some reason criticizing Moses? He’s a major rotation piece helping us beat a 2 seed lol.


GP2 made the big plays. It's obvious that Kerr trusted him more in the 4th quarter than Moody and also clear that the other players do as well. They ran plays so that he could be going to the basket to get layup chances.

Moody simply can't be involved in those actions, at least they haven't show it yet.

Moody was getting blown by as well and hit one 3, missed a couple of others in crunch time.

Only good thing he has going for him is that he's 22 so the team is hoping for more and more improvement.

But we'll see who keeps getting key minutes. Unfortunately GP2 is injury-prone so team has to rely on Moody.
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Post#688 » by EvanZ » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:26 pm

Moody was literally brought in the last couple minutes for defense. What game are you watching? Moody is 22 and they have him on a 3 year steal of a deal. What a weirdo slant.
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Post#689 » by DB23 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:51 pm

Just to add, i thought he had a few huge drives to the rim and finish through contact when we couldn’t get much going.

He’s a dawg and rotation piece. Sure we need him to shoot better but to me he looks like the classic 5-8 man rotation piece on a contender. I wish kuminga had his drive and attitude.
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Post#690 » by statsman » Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:23 pm

I do wish Moody was scoring like he was the first 5 weeks after the Butler trade. During that span, he was averaging 13 ppg. Not a ridiculous amount, but that would be helpful right now and keep the other teams honest. He's currently on a streak of single digit scoring in 9 of the last 10 games.

In the 19 games since the above 5 week post-trade stretch:

  • Single digit scoring in 14 games
  • Averaging 7.1 ppg
  • Shooting 30.3% from 3pt, which is rough because that's mainly where they're asking him to score from
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Post#691 » by DonaldSanders » Sun Apr 27, 2025 5:33 pm

Among Warriors who have played 20 minutes or more this series, Moody is #3 in TS% behind Steph and Gary. His PPG is down a bit, but he's providing good efficiency. Moses also provides good defense, he's fine this series but he's also a role player who thrives with Jimmy setting him up.

Confused by complaints about Moody.
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Post#692 » by vvoland » Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:31 am

statsman wrote:I do wish Moody was scoring like he was the first 5 weeks after the Butler trade. During that span, he was averaging 13 ppg. Not a ridiculous amount, but that would be helpful right now and keep the other teams honest. He's currently on a streak of single digit scoring in 9 of the last 10 games.

In the 19 games since the above 5 week post-trade stretch:

  • Single digit scoring in 14 games
  • Averaging 7.1 ppg
  • Shooting 30.3% from 3pt, which is rough because that's mainly where they're asking him to score from


He's shooting below 30% on 3s his last 7 games and has looked less and less confident in the shot as we go. Outside of game 2 and two big shots in the 4th in game one, he's been tough on that end. No complaints about his defense but when I have more confidence in gp2s offense, that's a problem.
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Post#693 » by vvoland » Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:36 am

EvanZ wrote:
wco81 wrote:GP2 had a huge game, got most of the 4th quarter minutes, scoring 16 points including 2-3 from 3. Moses had 7 points, only 1-5 from 3.

GP2 is a UFA after these playoffs, making $9.1 million. Moses is going to get his new extension kicking in starting next season, at $11.574 million, more than GP2 ever made in a season.

But it's not just this game, I think in the series, GP2 is a more reliable player. He's not suppose to be the 3-point shooter that Moody is. But he's probably at least as good a defender as Moody, probably better. And he can attack the rim, finish through contest as he did 2 or 3 times in the 4th quarter.

I have never seen Moody attack the rim as well.

Now I'm glad they extended Moody but what a huge missed opportunity, with so many better players chosen after him in that draft.

Unfortunately though, if the team can't keep GP2 after this season and one of the reasons is contracts given to other role players like Moses, it's really going to suck for next season if they get into the playoffs again, because GP2 belongs in the closing lineup a lot more than Moody.


What a dumb **** post lol


The fact that Kerr trusts gp2 as much, if not more, than Moses is pretty clear. Moody probably just lost his starting gig and it makes sense this thread is getting traction the day after that happens.

Also nothing wrong in thinking we could have had trey Murphy or sengun at his pick. Doesn't mean he isn't a good player, great value contract, or a valuable rotation piece. I just thought he would a surefire starting 2, like prime kcp, but he might be a 3 & D rotation forward, not unlike a prime gp2.
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Post#694 » by GunnerWRX » Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:56 am

My evaluation on Moody is he is outplaying his contract $ right now.
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Post#695 » by vvoland » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:02 am

GunnerWRX wrote:My evaluation on Moody is he is outplaying his contract $ right now.


He is, only question is, by how much. As a rotation wing, not by much. If a starter, he is making half as much as he should
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Post#696 » by statsman » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:36 am

vvoland wrote:
GunnerWRX wrote:My evaluation on Moody is he is outplaying his contract $ right now.

He is, only question is, by how much. As a rotation wing, not by much. If a starter, he is making half as much as he should

Are you talking about the contract extension that starts next season? 3-yr/$37.5M? I'm fine paying him that as a starter or a rotation player, although he seems to do better starting than coming off the bench (shades of Harrison Barnes?).
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Post#697 » by EvanZ » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:18 pm

vvoland wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
wco81 wrote:GP2 had a huge game, got most of the 4th quarter minutes, scoring 16 points including 2-3 from 3. Moses had 7 points, only 1-5 from 3.

GP2 is a UFA after these playoffs, making $9.1 million. Moses is going to get his new extension kicking in starting next season, at $11.574 million, more than GP2 ever made in a season.

But it's not just this game, I think in the series, GP2 is a more reliable player. He's not suppose to be the 3-point shooter that Moody is. But he's probably at least as good a defender as Moody, probably better. And he can attack the rim, finish through contest as he did 2 or 3 times in the 4th quarter.

I have never seen Moody attack the rim as well.

Now I'm glad they extended Moody but what a huge missed opportunity, with so many better players chosen after him in that draft.

Unfortunately though, if the team can't keep GP2 after this season and one of the reasons is contracts given to other role players like Moses, it's really going to suck for next season if they get into the playoffs again, because GP2 belongs in the closing lineup a lot more than Moody.


What a dumb **** post lol


The fact that Kerr trusts gp2 as much, if not more, than Moses is pretty clear. Moody probably just lost his starting gig and it makes sense this thread is getting traction the day after that happens.



What a brain dead take. Moody will be back in the starting lineup tonight, assuming Jimmy is back.
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Post#698 » by wco81 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:22 pm

He's going to be the primary wing defender. He's done pretty well in the latter part of the season.

Don't recall him making big plays in this series as the main on-ball defender though. Obviously Houston is trying to get Curry switched on to Jalen Green.

But they're going to need Moses to shoot better the rest of this series and any additional series.

More long term, he's going to have to be able to attack closeouts and get himself a midrange jumper or go to the rim and make tear drops or draw fouls or rotate the ball.
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Post#699 » by Twinkie defense » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:22 pm

Moody's shot has gone missing - Warriors could really use him finding it again!
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Post#700 » by statsman » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:27 pm

EvanZ wrote:Moody will be back in the starting lineup tonight, assuming Jimmy is back.

I am not sure about that. I suppose for consistency reasons, Kerr would go back to the starting lineup that worked to get them to the #7 seed. But it wouldn't surprise me to see Kerr insert Butler for Kuminga and leave Post in to start. There may be a desire to start the game with size again.

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