2024-25 West Cross Standings Draft - Discussion

[Fadeaway_J]

Players will get a maximum of a 2-hour window to make their a valid selection when they are on the clock. If you still have not chosen a player by then, or if the player you have chosen is ineligible, you will be skipped.

This language should be cleaned up. It certainly makes it clear that a player can be skipped when they make an invalid pick while the clock is on.

But I think there IS an interpretation here that you can be skipped if the pick is invalid regardless- that any grace period or time you have is no longer valid if an invalid pick is made.

I don't know what the intention of this wording is, and for that reason I DON'T think we can skip iamgine now. But when DB gets the chance he should clarify this.

I'd suggest the change above. It never really made sense to me you lose the rest of your clock immediately after an invalid selection.

I was the one who came up with that wording, and my intention at the time was that if you hadn't made a valid pick by the end of the two hours, you would be skipped.

[Larry_Russell]

off topic...just really messed up today....

I cannot believe that my fellow Canadians voted for the liberal party AGAIN after the last 10 years.

250% increase in violent crime
5% of Canadians visiting food banks
massive increase in housing prices
More taxes (carbon taxes)
GDP growth has STOPPED (worse in G20)
Riots in streets daily
MASS immigration, unvetted
risk of separation of some provinces
censoring of internet
paying off of media

etc
etc

[uberhikari]

This language should be cleaned up. It certainly makes it clear that a player can be skipped when they make an invalid pick while the clock is on.

But I think there IS an interpretation here that you can be skipped if the pick is invalid regardless- that any grace period or time you have is no longer valid if an invalid pick is made.

I don't know what the intention of this wording is, and for that reason I DON'T think we can skip iamgine now. But when DB gets the chance he should clarify this.

I'd suggest the change above. It never really made sense to me you lose the rest of your clock immediately after an invalid selection.

I was the one who came up with that wording, and my intention at the time was that if you hadn't made a valid pick by the end of the two hours, you would be skipped.

Since I've been playing these games, that rule has never been interpreted this way. It's always been interpreted to mean you get skipped if you make an invalid pick.

[Laimbeer]

I'd suggest the change above. It never really made sense to me you lose the rest of your clock immediately after an invalid selection.

I was the one who came up with that wording, and my intention at the time was that if you hadn't made a valid pick by the end of the two hours, you would be skipped.

Since I've been playing these games, that rule has never been interpreted this way. It's always been interpreted to mean you get skipped if you make an invalid pick.

Yes, that's how it has been. I now see DB's point - the next drafter would have to realize it's invalid.

Given that, I'll do a flip flop and say the burden should be on the drafter to make a legal pick, and if not the next drafter can pick if they so choose..

[Larry_Russell]

I think everyone picking between now and when I pick again, should make poor picks so that I can get another stud player.

Thanks

[Snakebites]

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[durantbird]

My position regarding the discussion about an invalid pick is like Laimbeer said. An invalid pick technically means you lose your turn and you complete a valid pick in your time.

The issue is that in borderline cases where this can happen, we shouldn't expect the next drafter to realize the pick is invalid.

We should expect a next drafter that does realize that the pick is invalid to play nicely and give ample time for the previous participant to correct his pick. But we can't enforce it by rule.

Regarding pairs draft, it actually becomes even more complicated because if a pick is invalid then none of the players you picked are secured. For example, in the Jokic Clyde pick, Roddy still had the chance to route to a totally different pair, which on the flip side means Jokic is still up for grabs.

[Snakebites]

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Kobe/Hakeem is such a killer pairing.

Rodman and Jones are great defensive pieces. Unsure if they both start but they’re relatively cheap and useful either way.

I thought Kobe/Rodman would go sooner- Rodman is a great way to offset Kobe’s price tag.

[Snakebites]

By the way Fade getting Magic that low is a disaster.

That team is gonna be so freaking good.

Kobe/Hakeem is more top heavy than I usually go, but the balanced approach isn’t exactly seeing a lot of success for me lately.

[Fadeaway_J]

By the way Fade getting Magic that low is a disaster.

That team is gonna be so freaking good.

Kobe/Hakeem is more top heavy than I usually go, but the balanced approach isn’t exactly seeing a lot of success for me lately.

My track record with Magic says otherwise.

[Snakebites]

Went back and fourth on DRob vs Hakeem for a while.

[Larry_Russell]

I am the 4th pick away and i have 5 pairings that I would be beyond joyed with.

Love it.

Feel like Ness is going with a friend of Dirks
Feels like iamgine is going with a guy I would prefer with my pick
Feels like GM is not going in my direction for a pick

meaning I should get 1 of my top 2 choices.

[Snakebites]

I am the 4th pick away and i have 5 pairings that I would be beyond joyed with.

Love it.

Feel like Ness is going with a friend of Dirks
Feels like iamgine is going with a guy I would prefer with my pick
Feels like GM is not going in my direction for a pick

meaning I should get 1 of my top 2 choices.

The depth of this pool in round two is what convinced me I absolutely needed two all time greats at all costs.

I didn’t think I could beat those higher picks with depth.

[MadNESS]

I’m here

Debating…

I’m going against whatever LR said outta principle

[Snakebites]

I’m here

Debating…

I’m going against whatever LR said outta principle

LR made a potential mistake by laying out what he expected to happen like that.

It gives people, consciously or no, the desire to subvert those expectations.

[Larry_Russell]

I’m here

Debating…

I’m going against whatever LR said outta principle

LR made a potential mistake by laying out what he expected to happen like that.

It gives people, consciously or no, the desire to subvert those expectations.

And maybe that was the plan all along......

[Snakebites]

I’m here

Debating…

I’m going against whatever LR said outta principle

LR made a potential mistake by laying out what he expected to happen like that.

It gives people, consciously or no, the desire to subvert those expectations.

And maybe that was the plan all along......

Nice damage control.

[MadNESS]

I'll do it again

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[Snakebites]

There's a really killer but very expensive pair that I'm still somewhat regretting not taking- I didn't because I really felt I'd need Chris Paul to make it pop properly and I was afraid Laimbeer would take him.

Could have also just taken CP3 first, but that just felt counterintuitive with the quality of the point guard board.

I also considered taking CP3/Battier with my Kobe pick, but Hakeem/Kobe had a better ring to it.

[MadNESS]

There's a really killer but very expensive pair that I'm still somewhat regretting not taking- I didn't because I really felt I'd need Chris Paul to make it pop properly and I was afraid Laimbeer would take him.

There’s 2-3 of them left. Too many good options still.