NBA Trade Thread #12

[Jeffster81]

I would be nervous with how Giannis talks about Chicago and more specifically MJ, if I was a Bucks fan.

I would definitely be nervous as a Bucks fan.

(Not because of Chicago, though.)

Have you heard how he talks about Chicago? Let me put it this way, if Giannis was on the Bulls and he talked about Milwaukee like he has about Chicago, I would be annoyed AF.

I'm not saying Giannis to Chicago, I'm saying Giannis is starting to have a foot out the door.

[Am2626]

I would be nervous with how Giannis talks about Chicago and more specifically MJ, if I was a Bucks fan.

I would definitely be nervous as a Bucks fan.

(Not because of Chicago, though.)

Have you heard how he talks about Chicago? Let me put it this way, if Giannis was on the Bulls and he talked about Milwaukee like he has about Chicago, I would be annoyed AF.

I'm not saying Giannis to Chicago, I'm saying Giannis is starting to have a foot out the door.

We should all hope to see Milwaukee get knocked out of the playoffs as quickly as possible. A blowout loss in game 5 would be the best outcome. Even if Giannis doesn’t ever come to the Bulls getting him out of the Bulls division is a win.

[boozapalooza]

With a trash FA class, the trade market this offseason is going to be nuts.

I expect Giannis, Ja, Zion, and Durant to be on the move at minimum. A great opportunity presents itself for the Bulls to get in the mix and trade for a star player.

This is it. We know tanking is not an option and we have the pieces to pull something off. Everyone and all draft capital should be available. We have the cap flexibility. A deal headlined by Coby or Matas should be attractive to any team.

This is AK’s chance to turn this **** around

[Dan Z]

With a trash FA class, the trade market this offseason is going to be nuts.

I expect Giannis, Ja, Zion, and Durant to be on the move at minimum. A great opportunity presents itself for the Bulls to get in the mix and trade for a star player.

This is it. We know tanking is not an option and we have the pieces to pull something off. Everyone and all draft capital should be available. We have the cap flexibility. A deal headlined by Coby or Matas should be attractive to any team.

This is AK’s chance to turn this **** around

It's a shame that AK never did anything to acquire future assets to work with.

[MrSparkle]

With a trash FA class, the trade market this offseason is going to be nuts.

I expect Giannis, Ja, Zion, and Durant to be on the move at minimum. A great opportunity presents itself for the Bulls to get in the mix and trade for a star player.

This is it. We know tanking is not an option and we have the pieces to pull something off. Everyone and all draft capital should be available. We have the cap flexibility. A deal headlined by Coby or Matas should be attractive to any team.

This is AK’s chance to turn this **** around

It's a shame that AK never did anything to acquire future assets to work with.

Yeah, it’s cute dreaming up the Bulls scenario, but fact is there are many teams who have way more picks than us, have a better team, and have enough salaries/talent to make the trade and not ruin their main rotation. Spurs, Thunder and Rockets, without even giving it a second of thought. To make matters worse, there’s a strong chance all 3 of these teams have better picks than us in this summer’s draft.

I think this Dame injury sucks for whatever long-shot chance I thought Chicago had (of getting Greek Freak). If Bucks held onto relevance, Giannis might’ve made it to unrestricted free agency, but I don’t see them standing pat for 2y with Dame good as done. Their window is shut. So if they begin the bidding, the only remote chance Chicago has of making a deal is AK agreeing to mortgage a decade of unprotected picks, Bucks knowing that AK’s gonna F it all up and give Milwaukee a fat pension package.

[The Box Office]

The Bucks are f-kced. They gotta trade Giannis this Summer. The ride is officially over for Milwaukee. Holding on to Giannis, for next season and beyond, is stupid and a waste of time for both parties.

[Andi Obst]

The Bucks are f-kced. They gotta trade Giannis this Summer. The ride is officially over for Milwaukee. Holding on to Giannis, for next season and beyond, is stupid and a waste of time for both parties.

If I'm the Bucks, I'm not trading Giannis unless he asks out. I agree that their time as a contender is up, but the post-Giannis era without your own picks would be absolutely brutal.

[WesPeace]

Leave me Matas alone!
Trade anyone else, I dont care!

Even Giddey and White for Giannis and picks and s**t, I just want Matas to remain a Bull!

Also dont want Trae Young nowhere near Bulls in any scenario!

[ChettheJet]

This talk of Giannis is Zach Lavine in reverse. The Bulls wanted to move Zach for quite some time but the favorable situation regarding what they could get back made the trade take a long time. They were fortunate to be able to get back their pick and not just soon to be expiring contacts but very playable players who they should be trying to resign.

Now the Bucks would/should be happy to get a pick or two along with not just the contracts that match Giannis but that ether expire quickly and then leave or are solid roster pieces who they could resign. The Bulls don't seem like Giannis trading partners because while they can now trade picks if they send the Bucks the combination of players that help MIL they gut their roster and are going to end up with Matas and Giannis and not much help for them.

[Infinity2152]

This talk of Giannis is Zach Lavine in reverse. The Bulls wanted to move Zach for quite some time but the favorable situation regarding what they could get back made the trade take a long time. They were fortunate to be able to get back their pick and not just soon to be expiring contacts but very playable players who they should be trying to resign.

Now the Bucks would/should be happy to get a pick or two along with not just the contracts that match Giannis but that ether expire quickly and then leave or are solid roster pieces who they could resign. The Bulls don't seem like Giannis trading partners because while they can now trade picks if they send the Bucks the combination of players that help MIL they gut their roster and are going to end up with Matas and Giannis and not much help for them.

Thought about that. There are teams that could better absorb Giannis's contract without gutting their team, but that depends on what the Bucks are looking for. Celtics for instance could send valuable veteran players, but not expirings or young talent. If the Bucks are looking for expirings or cap space, we're probably one of the best trade partners. Doesn't matter if teams have more picks than us, do we have enough to make the deal? Because a team has 8 picks doesn't mean they're sending 8 picks.

As far as gutting our roster, the original trade propositions had us keeping Giddey, Coby and Matas. I think Coby would have to go, but that would leave us with Giddey, Matas, Giannis and a bunch of cap space. No, Giddey and Giannis aren't the perfect pairing, but add a 3 and D SG and center, you could really have a team

[patryk7754]

lmao. i thought even considering the option of trading for giannis was the stupidest thing someone could suggest. Some of you guys are extremely unserious

[The Box Office]

What if we lucked into getting the number one pick this upcoming lottery? That would be a hoot.

[patryk7754]

What if we lucked into getting the number one pick this upcoming lottery? That would be a hoot.

The only thing that can happen this season is getting the first pick and Jokic demanding a trade to the bulls

[Infinity2152]

lmao. i thought even considering the option of trading for giannis was the stupidest thing someone could suggest. Some of you guys are extremely unserious

Interesting. I would think NOT considering the OPTION of trading for Giannis would be the stupidest thing someone could suggest in a trade thread. 30 yr old MVP level two way player whose team is collapsing, has the power to influence where he goes, and has spoken glowingly of Chicago. We should admit defeat without even considering it?

Are we not supposed to even target good players now? Every top 30 player that gets brought up as a target, and there's somebody here to tell us it's ridiculous to even consider it.

Bring up Jaylen Brown. Crazy idea, never happen. Jimmy Butler, stupid idea never happen. Kevin Durant, stupid idea never happen. Ja Morant, don't discuss it. Zion, absolutely no way. NAZ REID, stupid idea, Timberwolves will never let him go. Every player we want to trade, can't suggest trades, nobody wants any of our players except Matas and maybe Coby.

Every single trade idea for a number 1 gets ridiculed, yet everybody agrees we need a number 1. Where we are now, who wants to talk about trades for Harrison Barnes or Grant Williams level players exclusively?

[jnrjr79]

lmao. i thought even considering the option of trading for giannis was the stupidest thing someone could suggest. Some of you guys are extremely unserious

Interesting. I would think NOT considering the OPTION of trading for Giannis would be the stupidest thing someone could suggest in a trade thread. 30 yr old MVP level two way player whose team is collapsing, has the power to influence where he goes, and has spoken glowingly of Chicago. We should admit defeat without even considering it?

Are we not supposed to even target good players now? Every top 30 player that gets brought up as a target, and there's somebody here to tell us it's ridiculous to even consider it.

Bring up Jaylen Brown. Crazy idea, never happen. Jimmy Butler, stupid idea never happen. Kevin Durant, stupid idea never happen. Ja Morant, don't discuss it. Zion, absolutely no way. NAZ REID, stupid idea, Timberwolves will never let him go. Every player we want to trade, can't suggest trades, nobody wants any of our players except Matas and maybe Coby.

Every single trade idea for a number 1 gets ridiculed, yet everybody agrees we need a number 1. Where we are now, who wants to talk about trades for Harrison Barnes or Grant Williams level players exclusively?

I would also say it's just totally unproductive to come into a thread and say, effectively, "never gonna happen and you're dumb for talking about it" on a basketball message board. If you think trading for Giannis is impossible, nobody is making you read about it or post about it, so just sit it out!

I also agree the Bulls, even if they aren't likely to land him, still have to fully evaluate the option rather than just moping on the sidelines.

[sco]

lmao. i thought even considering the option of trading for giannis was the stupidest thing someone could suggest. Some of you guys are extremely unserious

Interesting. I would think NOT considering the OPTION of trading for Giannis would be the stupidest thing someone could suggest in a trade thread. 30 yr old MVP level two way player whose team is collapsing, has the power to influence where he goes, and has spoken glowingly of Chicago. We should admit defeat without even considering it?

Are we not supposed to even target good players now? Every top 30 player that gets brought up as a target, and there's somebody here to tell us it's ridiculous to even consider it.

Bring up Jaylen Brown. Crazy idea, never happen. Jimmy Butler, stupid idea never happen. Kevin Durant, stupid idea never happen. Ja Morant, don't discuss it. Zion, absolutely no way. NAZ REID, stupid idea, Timberwolves will never let him go. Every player we want to trade, can't suggest trades, nobody wants any of our players except Matas and maybe Coby.

Every single trade idea for a number 1 gets ridiculed, yet everybody agrees we need a number 1. Where we are now, who wants to talk about trades for Harrison Barnes or Grant Williams level players exclusively?

I would also say it's just totally unproductive to come into a thread and say, effectively, "never gonna happen and you're dumb for talking about it" on a basketball message board. If you think trading for Giannis is impossible, nobody is making you read about it or post about it, so just sit it out!

I also agree the Bulls, even if they aren't likely to land him, still have to fully evaluate the option rather than just moping on the sidelines.

Good points. First I'll say that we are all FANATICS which has a loose definition of being irrationally focused on one's team, so our POV's tend to go to extremes (usually both ways on the same point). The trick is to never take stuff personally here...emotions run high here.

On Giannis, also agree that not trying is silly if he's remotely available. Others could offer more, but equally important, we may be able to bring back a secondary asset acting as a 3rd team with picks and expirings to bring into the mix.

[patryk7754]

lmao. i thought even considering the option of trading for giannis was the stupidest thing someone could suggest. Some of you guys are extremely unserious

Interesting. I would think NOT considering the OPTION of trading for Giannis would be the stupidest thing someone could suggest in a trade thread. 30 yr old MVP level two way player whose team is collapsing, has the power to influence where he goes, and has spoken glowingly of Chicago. We should admit defeat without even considering it?

Are we not supposed to even target good players now? Every top 30 player that gets brought up as a target, and there's somebody here to tell us it's ridiculous to even consider it.

Bring up Jaylen Brown. Crazy idea, never happen. Jimmy Butler, stupid idea never happen. Kevin Durant, stupid idea never happen. Ja Morant, don't discuss it. Zion, absolutely no way. NAZ REID, stupid idea, Timberwolves will never let him go. Every player we want to trade, can't suggest trades, nobody wants any of our players except Matas and maybe Coby.

Every single trade idea for a number 1 gets ridiculed, yet everybody agrees we need a number 1. Where we are now, who wants to talk about trades for Harrison Barnes or Grant Williams level players exclusively?

Suggesting that we explore options is very dangerous here. What about our young core movement and our mid of the pack draft picks that don't amount to anything? coby is the future!

[patryk7754]

lmao. i thought even considering the option of trading for giannis was the stupidest thing someone could suggest. Some of you guys are extremely unserious

Interesting. I would think NOT considering the OPTION of trading for Giannis would be the stupidest thing someone could suggest in a trade thread. 30 yr old MVP level two way player whose team is collapsing, has the power to influence where he goes, and has spoken glowingly of Chicago. We should admit defeat without even considering it?

Are we not supposed to even target good players now? Every top 30 player that gets brought up as a target, and there's somebody here to tell us it's ridiculous to even consider it.

Bring up Jaylen Brown. Crazy idea, never happen. Jimmy Butler, stupid idea never happen. Kevin Durant, stupid idea never happen. Ja Morant, don't discuss it. Zion, absolutely no way. NAZ REID, stupid idea, Timberwolves will never let him go. Every player we want to trade, can't suggest trades, nobody wants any of our players except Matas and maybe Coby.

Every single trade idea for a number 1 gets ridiculed, yet everybody agrees we need a number 1. Where we are now, who wants to talk about trades for Harrison Barnes or Grant Williams level players exclusively?

I would also say it's just totally unproductive to come into a thread and say, effectively, "never gonna happen and you're dumb for talking about it" on a basketball message board. If you think trading for Giannis is impossible, nobody is making you read about it or post about it, so just sit it out!

I also agree the Bulls, even if they aren't likely to land him, still have to fully evaluate the option rather than just moping on the sidelines.

but if don't come here and sh*t on peoples hypotheticals, how will you feel like you know more about basketball than everyone else?

[patryk7754]

I think our top targets should be Jokic, Giannis and Zion, in that order. Jokic is the best player and could be looking to move on depending on how they exit the playoffs. Giannis has probably been ready to leave since last playoffs. I saw that the bucks don't own like 4 of their 1st (didn't not double check) so that might keep the bucks from trading Giannis since that would hinder them from building through the draft to a certain extent. And anyone trading for Giannis isn't going to be in the lottery, unless its the suns. Giannis might have to pull a jimmy. Zion is an all NBA type player with avability issues and he'll be the easiest to acquire. His value might be low enough that we might be able to swing two trades, but that's unlikely.

Regardless of who we might acquire, we NEED to pair them with Reid. He's played great against the Lakers and his positional flexibility makes him a great fit with almost anyone. I'd be willing to completely blow the team up if we ended up with a combo of Jokic or Giannis and Reid.

[Infinity2152]

Considered the argument Bucks don't have their own picks, so no incentives to tank, which will happen if they trade Giannis. That's true. The alternative is to keep Giannis the next two years, be a mid team, and still have no picks over that time. Now it's two years later, you're no better and Giannis's value has decreased. A trade of Giannis is almost certainly going to yield a ton of firsts, so you'll still be adding rookies every year. Probably bring back young talent and a ton of cap space as well. They're much better off in a couple of years if they trade Giannis now rather than two years from now. If they can push Lillard out, rebuild accelerated even more, much more. If I'm the Bucks, I need at least one Matas/Jalen Green/Amen Thompson level young player back to start rebuilding my core.

Without their own picks, they're going to have to rebuild using the cap strategically. They could be back to a pretty good young team in two years with picks every year and a future if they can move Giannis and Dame. At worst, two more years, Dame comes off, the assets from the Giannis trade have blossomed and they get a ton of cap space.