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2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10

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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#201 » by HeatFan_NC » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:32 pm

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HeatFan_NC wrote:Riles needs to step down. Either Spo or Zo needs to take Riles' position. Haslem needs to be in the front office in some role.

We have to make the team an attractive destination for good players. The city of Miami is, but the team isn't anymore. Riley might know basketball, but he can't relate to this generation. He's not looked upon as a likeable figure anymore after the LeBron and Jimmy fiascos.

Andy Ellisburg is the team GM. Wanting Spo to take his place is a lazy take that sounds like “Boston did it so we should too”. Brad Stevens made his bones on the college circuit, his eye for talent is different than Spo’s. Spo pounded the table for Duncan and you want him to be the GM man hell no


Ok. should ellisburg continue in his position? Who do you think should be the person bringing in the talent? Clearly, whoever is doing it now isn't doing the best job.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#202 » by HeatFan_NC » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:32 pm

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HeatFan_NC wrote:Riles needs to step down. Either Spo or Zo needs to take Riles' position. Haslem needs to be in the front office in some role.

We have to make the team an attractive destination for good players. The city of Miami is, but the team isn't anymore. Riley might know basketball, but he can't relate to this generation. He's not looked upon as a likeable figure anymore after the LeBron and Jimmy fiascos.

Andy Ellisburg is the team GM. Wanting Spo to take his place is a lazy take that sounds like “Boston did it so we should too”. Brad Stevens made his bones on the college circuit, his eye for talent is different than Spo’s. Spo pounded the table for Duncan and you want him to be the GM man hell no


Ok. should ellisburg continue in his position? Who do you think should be the person bringing in the talent? Clearly, whoever is doing it now isn't doing the best job.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#203 » by Heat3 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:33 pm

Tony15 wrote:Also it's not like the HEAT have Steve Balmer as team owner....Arison's cheap.

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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#204 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:33 pm

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batterybro42 wrote:KD
Giannis
Jah

I need 1 of the 3

Trae Young intrigues me


Most you’re willing to give up for Ja, KD, and Trae?


for Giannis - everything
for Ja - anything not named Bam and Herro
For KD - Jaime, Jovic, expiring and 2 picks


Lowkey if we put Herro on the table we could probably land KD and Ja, if we missed the playoffs and had 4 picks might be able to do it without him.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#205 » by HeatFan_NC » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:34 pm

batterybro42 wrote:KD
Giannis
Jah

I need 1 of the 3

Trae Young intrigues me


Nah. Trae is not much different from Herro.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#206 » by HeatFan_NC » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:37 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:Spoelstra has been clueless for a long time.


People in the sports world and on this forum think he's one of the greatest coaches in the game. He's good but it might be time for a change
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#207 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:39 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
HeatIn5 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Most you’re willing to give up for Ja, KD, and Trae?


for Giannis - everything
for Ja - anything not named Bam and Herro
For KD - Jaime, Jovic, expiring and 2 picks


Lowkey if we put Herro on the table we could probably land KD and Ja, if we missed the playoffs and had 4 picks might be able to do it without him.

Suns and Grizz have no need for Herro and his contract when they already have Booker and Bane respectively. There’s not many teams with a need for Herro. Maybe the Utah Jazz
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#208 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:41 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
HeatIn5 wrote:
for Giannis - everything
for Ja - anything not named Bam and Herro
For KD - Jaime, Jovic, expiring and 2 picks


Lowkey if we put Herro on the table we could probably land KD and Ja, if we missed the playoffs and had 4 picks might be able to do it without him.

Suns and Grizz have no need for Herro and his contract when they already have Booker and Bane respectively. There’s not many teams with a need for Herro. Maybe the Utah Jazz


4 team it up, Magic could use him too. Time to get creative
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#209 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:42 pm

HeatFan_NC wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:KD
Giannis
Jah

I need 1 of the 3

Trae Young intrigues me


Nah. Trae is not much different from Herro.


Better playoff performer and on a completely different world playmaking wise
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#210 » by HeatFan_NC » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:47 pm

twix2500 wrote:Can Anthony Davis, Bam Adebayo and Bradley Beal as your big three win a chip or compete for one?

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Maybe...if you could keep the other 2 healthy enough to actually stay on the floor and play with Bam
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#211 » by DBurks2818 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:47 pm

Probably best for me to come back to this thread in about week, after the stench of a couple of bad games from a gassed team wears off. I am not convinced that the team needs to be completely torn apart before they can get back to being successful. Some changes, definitely. A full tear-down, no.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#212 » by Hallstar » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:49 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
HeatFan_NC wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:KD
Giannis
Jah

I need 1 of the 3

Trae Young intrigues me


Nah. Trae is not much different from Herro.


Better playoff performer and on a completely different world playmaking wise

Better playoff performer when? 4 years ago or whatever? He had the chance to show it quite recently. We went up against a team with 30 more wins and the solution is someone that couldn't beat us. Heat fan logic.

Wasn't Ja getting dog walked off the floor before his injury? I hate the hypocrisy.


Booker had Durant and didn't do ****. If Herro had Beal and Durant this board would want him out on the first thing smoking.

But oh it's different because it's another team. They don't have the Heat's elite offensive game planning.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#213 » by twix2500 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:10 pm

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twix2500 wrote:Can Anthony Davis, Bam Adebayo and Bradley Beal as your big three win a chip or compete for one?

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Maybe...if you could keep the other 2 healthy enough to actually stay on the floor and play with Bam


Yeah health concerns for AD is always a question mark. But pretty much anyone who is on the Market will be a health concern.

PG: Mitchell
SG: Beal
SF: (Shooter)
PF: Davis
Ce: Bam

The right supporting cast, I can be confident this comes out of the east.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#214 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:11 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
HeatFan_NC wrote:
Nah. Trae is not much different from Herro.


Better playoff performer and on a completely different world playmaking wise

Better playoff performer when? 4 years ago or whatever? He had the chance to show it quite recently. We went up against a team with 30 more wins and the solution is someone that couldn't beat us. Heat fan logic.

Wasn't Ja getting dog walked off the floor before his injury? I hate the hypocrisy.


Booker had Durant and didn't do ****. If Herro had Beal and Durant this board would want him out on the first thing smoking.

But oh it's different because it's another team. They don't have the Heat's elite offensive game planning.


Huh lol?!

When has Herro been even above average in a playoff series since his rookie year? Trae is averaging 26-3-9 for his career in the playoffs, he took a team to the ECF and has never played with a guy who was also a current all star along with him. Herro has never had success as a lead guy and our best playoff runs came mostly with him out with injury or playing a reserve role.

Ja was going up against the best defense in the league who has several elite perimeter defenders and was up 30 when he got injured, they might’ve been able to make things interesting after that. Herro got put in a body bag by Sam Merrill and Max Strus.

Booker I’m not even sure what you’re getting at there but he, like Ja, is a far superior player to Herro.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#215 » by SA37 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:15 pm

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Tony15 wrote:Also it's not like the HEAT have Steve Balmer as team owner....Arison's cheap.

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Heat are top 10 in payroll this season. Spending more than the Clippers.

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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#216 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:17 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Lowkey if we put Herro on the table we could probably land KD and Ja, if we missed the playoffs and had 4 picks might be able to do it without him.

Suns and Grizz have no need for Herro and his contract when they already have Booker and Bane respectively. There’s not many teams with a need for Herro. Maybe the Utah Jazz


4 team it up, Magic could use him too. Time to get creative

I think Herro stays for at least another year. They’ll try to change the deck around Bam and Herro first.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#217 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:21 pm

The more i think about it i don’t think Kelel Ware is the right fit next to Bam. It looks decent is spurts but in today’s NBA i don’t see it being a long term answer. We’ve had our best success putting pin ball burly PF’s next to Bam who know how to Spam 3’s. I’m glad Bam has expanded his game but it still seems off as him becoming the sole offensive threat in the front court.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#218 » by SA37 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:28 pm

HeatFan_NC wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:KD
Giannis
Jah

I need 1 of the 3

Trae Young intrigues me


Nah. Trae is not much different from Herro.


Disagree.

T Young has a very different skillset. He's a much better ball handler, playmaker, much more creative, and has better court vision. Young is a streaky shooter, not very good or effective off the ball, and he is a turnover machine. He is elite at getting to the line (3rd in the NBA this year and he's been in the top-6 since his 2nd year in the league). Young is borderline elite as a scorer.

Herro is an elite shooter and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. He's ok as a stand-in primary ball handler, but he's just not good enough to generate offense for everyone and he's got to be one of the poorest at drawing fouls and getting to the FT line. He's an ok scorer, but not the kind of offensive threat you see from elite scorers.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#219 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:32 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:The more i think about it i don’t think Kelel Ware is the right fit next to Bam. It looks decent is spurts but in today’s NBA i don’t see it being a long term answer. We’ve had our best success putting pin ball burly PF’s next to Bam who know how to Spam 3’s. I’m glad Bam has expanded his game but it still seems off as him becoming the sole offensive threat in the front court.


I was thinking about this too, Spo almost instantly benched Ware last night and you can tell he was fed up with him. Our deep playoff runs came with Bam at the 5 with a switchable defense and we already know that’s the style of play Spo prefers. It’s unfortunate because he’ll be the only one doing the dirty work but it is what it is. I don’t think Ware is as untouchable as we thought and he may be key in landing a star because of this, you can’t teach motor and his has seemed to be severely lacking since teams started gameplanning for him
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#220 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:43 pm

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