2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10

[MettaWorldPanda]

I’m on board with dealing Herro in a soft reset if it presents itself. Clear a massive amount of money in 2026 and have some real picks to play around with. Utah and the Pels could give us that option.

[MettaWorldPanda]

So what you’re saying is we send Herro to the pelicans for CJ and 2 1sts and route 5 1sts and expiring money from Terry and whoever for Giannis, I like where you’re going with this

Herro for CJ and 2 1st rd picks really does look interesting if we are trying to reset things here a bit and not get saddled with Herro’s extension. Still don’t think we will be remotely in the running unless Bam and those 5 1st head out but then you have nothing left. We become the now Bucks

We shall see! I’d be curious to see the players going out in addition to 5 1sts in any deal for giannis from other teams

Spurs can send out Vassell, Johnson, and Sochan with 5 1st rd picks and not even break a sweat.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Houston can send out Van Vleet, Smith, Whitmore, Sheppard and 5 1st. I think it comes down to one of the Texas teams. My personal favorite is Giannis teaming up with Wemby and Fox.

[batterybro42]

I kinda feel like Zion Williamson would work here

I would 100% be willing to kick the tires on him and I feel like we could get him kinda cheap. He is 24 when he plays he’s elite. Nobody can really guard Zion.

If Miami can get him in basketball shape he’s probably a top 10-15 player in the NBA about to soon hit his prime

His contract is very easy to get out of, if it doesn’t work out

[Flash4thewin]

Herro for CJ and 2 1st rd picks really does look interesting if we are trying to reset things here a bit and not get saddled with Herro’s extension. Still don’t think we will be remotely in the running unless Bam and those 5 1st head out but then you have nothing left. We become the now Bucks

We shall see! I’d be curious to see the players going out in addition to 5 1sts in any deal for giannis from other teams

Spurs can send out Vassell, Johnson, and Sochan with 5 1st rd picks and not even break a sweat.

It’s looks like we are going into a gun fight armed with thoughts and prayers instead of assets.

[Wiltside]

For Giannis, I presume Milwaukee would want Bam and a bunch.

If you could do it for:

Tyler Herro (hometown boy)
Andrew Wiggins
Kel'el Ware
Jaime Jaquez
and a bunch of picks, you'd have to do it.

Try and reload around Bam and Giannis as foundation blocks. Promote Pelle to starting 2 as our Christian Braun. Niko at the 3, if we can retain him. MIL would probably want him though.

[SoFlaKingReal]

For Giannis, I presume Milwaukee would want Bam and a bunch.

If you could do it for:

Tyler Herro (hometown boy)
Andrew Wiggins
Kel'el Ware
Jaime Jaquez
and a bunch of picks, you'd have to do it.

Try and reload around Bam and Giannis as foundation blocks. Promote Pelle to starting 2 as our Christian Braun. Niko at the 3, if we can retain him. MIL would probably want him though.

Lmao…y’all will never learn.

Signing LeBron has this fanbase permanently delusional when it comes to acquiring superstars.

[Beenie]

I’m on board with dealing Herro in a soft reset if it presents itself. Clear a massive amount of money in 2026 and have some real picks to play around with. Utah and the Pels could give us that option.

And Bam

Get a max pick return and play the youngins next season.

Either way, team is likely gonna be a bottom 10 team.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Houston can send out Van Vleet, Smith, Whitmore, Sheppard and 5 1st. I think it comes down to one of the Texas teams. My personal favorite is Giannis teaming up with Wemby and Fox.

Call me crazy but if you’re sending out your superstar and going full rebuild Ware, Jovic, Jaime, Pelle >>>> Vaseline, Keldon, Sochan. That Houston offer is much better and a very good offer, Spurs trump card is Castle.

All in all Giannis will have a major say regardless, he may prefer Spurs to Houston or wherever and at that point they’ll just take their package as long as they’re getting the picks and a couple young guys.

[Daffy]

At this point I'm willing to punt on next year and see if Luka or Trae Young hit the market the following year. We'd have a pick in next draft to develop and more assets to build around/add to the team. Trading Bam and Herro both for a star who is already 30 years old makes no sense.

[Daffy]

Houston can send out Van Vleet, Smith, Whitmore, Sheppard and 5 1st. I think it comes down to one of the Texas teams. My personal favorite is Giannis teaming up with Wemby and Fox.

Call me crazy but if you’re sending out your superstar and going full rebuild Ware, Jovic, Jaime, Pelle >>>> Vaseline, Keldon, Sochan. That Houston offer is much better and a very good offer, Spurs trump card is Castle.

All in all Giannis will have a major say regardless, he may prefer Spurs to Houston or wherever and at that point they’ll just take their package as long as they’re getting the picks and a couple young guys.

I think Giannis ends up in NY. If I remember correctly didn't you share the link here saying there might be mutual interest especially since he has numerous businesses in NY?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Houston can send out Van Vleet, Smith, Whitmore, Sheppard and 5 1st. I think it comes down to one of the Texas teams. My personal favorite is Giannis teaming up with Wemby and Fox.

Call me crazy but if you’re sending out your superstar and going full rebuild Ware, Jovic, Jaime, Pelle >>>> Vaseline, Keldon, Sochan. That Houston offer is much better and a very good offer, Spurs trump card is Castle.

All in all Giannis will have a major say regardless, he may prefer Spurs to Houston or wherever and at that point they’ll just take their package as long as they’re getting the picks and a couple young guys.

I think Giannis ends up in NY. If I remember correctly didn't you share the link here saying there might be mutual interest especially since he has numerous businesses in NY?

Yea it would be the Nets since the Knicks don’t have any assets. I just have a hard time seeing him signing off on that though. I will say though I have a hard time seeing the league officials wanting another superstar like Giannis to head over to the West, they probably want Flagg to be drafted to the East as well.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[TroubleS0me]

KD & Giannis available do it now Riley

[Hallstar]

I’m not even bragging, the entire team was dog **** but when you don’t bring anything to the table but scoring and a little playmaking and you want $50M a year on an extension you better be doing worlds better offensively than a guy who “has no bag” “Joel Anthony if he wore 13” etc. Especially when your being defended by Sam Merrill and Max Strus.

Man please be quiet, everyone watched that abomination of a series, Herro was the focus of the defense. Who was focussed in defending Bam other than a guard stripping him when he attempted a "move". The commentators were begging for him to attack cause he was facing one on one matchups.

A bunch of nothing from you again lol. What about when they were talking about the Cavs loading up on Bam and packing the paint when he gets touches?

Your boy literally got clamped by Sam Merrill and Max Strus. There is not a single perimeter player on the Cavs that comes to mind when you think of being a good perimeter defender (outside of Dean but the casual PPG fan wouldn’t know much about him) and they had him in a straight jacket

Be better, I’m running laps around you today.

Bro Bam was the third best center in the series. Nobody cared about him taking 3s because it's not viewed as a real threat, they stayed in the lane.

You're talking about players Herro repeatedly beat only to meet whoever was not guarding Bam.

All Bam had to do was make open midrange jumpers but we know it's not a reliable offense.

And I would love to see the train wreck of a Bam/Giannis front court. That feels like the final crash out. 1997 Heat dream

[MettaWorldPanda]

I’m on board with dealing Herro in a soft reset if it presents itself. Clear a massive amount of money in 2026 and have some real picks to play around with. Utah and the Pels could give us that option.

And Bam

Get a max pick return and play the youngins next season.

Either way, team is likely gonna be a bottom 10 team.

Bam stays. Can’t get too carried away

[MettaWorldPanda]

We shall see! I’d be curious to see the players going out in addition to 5 1sts in any deal for giannis from other teams

Spurs can send out Vassell, Johnson, and Sochan with 5 1st rd picks and not even break a sweat.

It’s looks like we are going into a gun fight armed with thoughts and prayers instead of assets.

Send more Giannis in a Heat uniform memes

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Man please be quiet, everyone watched that abomination of a series, Herro was the focus of the defense. Who was focussed in defending Bam other than a guard stripping him when he attempted a "move". The commentators were begging for him to attack cause he was facing one on one matchups.

A bunch of nothing from you again lol. What about when they were talking about the Cavs loading up on Bam and packing the paint when he gets touches?

Your boy literally got clamped by Sam Merrill and Max Strus. There is not a single perimeter player on the Cavs that comes to mind when you think of being a good perimeter defender (outside of Dean but the casual PPG fan wouldn’t know much about him) and they had him in a straight jacket

Be better, I’m running laps around you today.

Bro Bam was the third best center in the series. Nobody cared about him taking 3s because it's not viewed as a real threat, they stayed in the lane.

You're talking about players Herro repeatedly beat only to meet whoever was not guarding Bam.

All Bam had to do was make open midrange jumpers but we know it's not a reliable offense.

And I would love to see the train wreck of a Bam/Giannis front court. That feels like the final crash out. 1997 Heat dream

Right im sure Bam would’ve loved to have several buckets served to him on a silver platter because his guards were blowing by weak defenders like Herro Duncan Wiggins etc. and forcing help. Herro wasn’t blowing by anyone, stop it. I’ve already touched on the 3 point shooting thing, and backed it with the facts like I always do when I argue something.

You’re talking out of your ass again backing nothing you say with anything of substance but that’s the norm for majority. Your boy showed yet again when the playoffs come around he can’t contribute in any way shape or form and that he might as well be wearing the other teams jersey when you have bench players calling ISOs on him, bullying him, then flexing on him lol. He’s a regular season guy who’s going to shoot a lot of shots and put up some points but when the games really matter and teams lock in he’s just food for opposing teams, it shows why he wasn’t involved in majority of our deep postseason runs. THATS the real crash out.

Bam/Giannis front court would have you a helluva lot closer to winning something meaningful than having “White Drip” out there getting cooked and dogged by bench players

[Beenie]

Houston can send out Van Vleet, Smith, Whitmore, Sheppard and 5 1st. I think it comes down to one of the Texas teams. My personal favorite is Giannis teaming up with Wemby and Fox.

And they have a wild card they can play which is Amen Thompson if needed.

Him and Giannis together might not be the best chemistry wise.

I'd guess that Mil would insist on getting him and Sheppard and at least 3 picks.

[greg4012]

Whatever your personal opinion on Bam being a top 5 center, he was played there out of necessity. We legitimately have no depth there. So whether he's top 5 or bottom 15, his minutes were what they were out of necessity. Either way, I think if your argument is based on Bam winning in the Olympics with the best basketball players in the world around him while playing C, then we have a fundamental difference that doesn't really warrant the back and forth. Give me a real C that is logging 35-40 minutes a night and Bam at the 4 logging the same. Whatever sporadic minutes he plays at C after that means very little to me, and I'd even be in support depending on the matchups.

I don't see where I ever made the claim that there were any injustices happening. You asked what the mods should do, I said just be fair. You really like this word, injustice, huh?

Too much misdirection, logical fallacies, and kinda silly williness to get into it all. So, here are some bullet points.

- According to lineup data, Bam Adebayo has played 85% of his NBA minutes at center (including 80% of his minutes this season). YOu can call it necessity, but that's a bit of circular logic because the Heat CHOOSE to have Bam as their center and thus it's inherent that a team NEEDS their center to play center. The results speak for themselves despite what shewasfly thinks. With that said, Miami has a promising young center that will earn more minutes and likely have Bam playing closer to 50% PF and 50% C next season.

- A total of TWO players designated at center and 6'10+ averaged 35 minutes or more per game this season (so IDK what Center you're looking for to play 40 minutes a night, but it doesn't exist)

- According to the Thesaurus, the antonym (opposite) of FAIRNESS is INJUSTICE. You calling for fairness on here (and thus insinuating a lack of it) is the same as affirmatively claiming injustice. Unless, you meant to suggest that the status quo is perfectly fair, in which case I agree, but I'm unsure why you brought it up in this context then.

That's a long way of saying it's out of necessity but you choose to frame it in it a different way, but alright.

Hope we also agree that going small has been a primary gripe of the fan base over recent years, and that Bam is one of the biggest reasons (he's actually the biggest reason, but let me keep it cute) for that. That said, if you think its a winning formula because Bam is a top 5 center in the league, and this is not just an attempt to refute what you took to be a slight against Bam, I strongly suggest you take this stance that we need to stick with small ball more vocally in the very frequent threads and frequent posts that complain about small ball. I assure you its not just me, even if you love my posts the most.

As far as the rest, reading comprehension is still a thing. Not lying would help too. You quoted my post about not wanting Bam at C and for him to remain at the 4 because he's not good enough to cater the entire roster to/build around. I assured you that what I was saying about not catering the roster to non-#1s was true for both Bam AND Herro, because a comparison between the two is what every conversation about Bam boils into, all because of one of the player fans whom you agree with more often than not, makes it that way on this board. Other posters in this very thread have echoed the same. YOU then asked what mods should do and I simply said be fair. This has now turned into you lying about me calling for fairness when I just answered a question you asked, along the thought process you started.

You also threw out injustice! the last debate randomly, because posters were discussing Tyler's offense and not being able to get by his man. Literally no one said it or hinted at it but you.

lol this is a waste of my time