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Re: PG - this is the opposite of fun 

Post#321 » by oldshoolballer » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:02 am

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mpharris36 wrote:all i know is if we blow this I know I won't ever have to watch thibs coach another game.

Same. If they run back Thibs I'm out next year until they get a coach. We have the talent.

Paper talent may be there.

Unfortunately the mentality of our two recent acquisitions — Towns and Bridges — is soft and weak.

So mentally we don’t have the talent.

And schematically we don’t have the talent.

And most of all we have very little to bring in new talent.

Leon Rose became Chris Drury (Rangers reference for y'all) very quickly. The team is on its way to a 3-4 more seasons of meaningless playoff appearances before ultimately bottoming out and wasting the prime of Jalen Brunson. You know it. I know it. Deep down, many people here know it. The proof is right in front of you. The Mikal Bridges trade was the worst in franchise history and ruined and any all chances of a title with this squad.

The only way we'll Know is if a new coach comes in and gets much more out of this team. My example is the Cavs. Exact same team that we beat in the playoffs. Now looking like the 96 Bulls. The only difference. A better coach. Same exact roster just a much better coach.
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Re: PG - this is the opposite of fun 

Post#322 » by Adelheid » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:02 am

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sol537 wrote:Ya'll need to chill. Yes, Thibs isn't a championship coach and we aren't winning a title this playoff run. Full stop. Accept that reality now and you won't be disappointed.

We will either lose to Detroit in epic fashion and Thibs gets canned or we'll beat Detroit and bow out to Boston in 4 or 5 games and he likely still gets canned. Accept that one of those two outcomes is what we're in store for and then you'll be able to watch these wins/losses without losing your mind.

orrrr scenario 1 or 2 happens as thibs will still be here


There’s way too much chatter from the media questioning Thibs. Way too much. No way he survives.


this was the 1st time begley mentioned something about thibs' job security...for all these years, there is that prevailing narrative that thibs is invincible and media guys constanstly protect him. There's a crack in the armor now. We'll see what happens after the playoffs
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Re: PG - this is the opposite of fun 

Post#323 » by Jay10 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:04 am

Ravenxvirall wrote:As much as I’ve been **** on thibs I will say that some of our players straight up act so nonchalant about missing shots or losing games that it drives me nuts. Mikal bricks everything and still having a goofy smile on his face makes me want him traded for a coors light and a cheesy bean and rice burrito. Happiest that dude looked all season was shaking hands with his nets buddies after games. Loser behavior.


It's because they are being forced to watch Jalen get his on every possession while they're stuck in a corner.
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Re: PG - this is the opposite of fun 

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Post#325 » by ctorres » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:09 am

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mpharris36 wrote:all i know is if we blow this I know I won't ever have to watch thibs coach another game.

Same. If they run back Thibs I'm out next year until they get a coach. We have the talent.


I think all the signs point to Mike Malone replacing Thibs

Mike probably has a chip on his shoulder after being fired from the Nuggets. Knicks have the most appealing roster if the coaching job becomes available.

He is only 53 years old, 10 years younger than when Thibs started this head coaching run with the Knicks.

His dad was an assistant coach with the Knicks during the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. The Knicks were also his dad's first NBA job.

Mike Malone's first NBA job was with the Knicks during his dad's last stint. So there's definitely a Dolan connection somewhere in there.
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Post#326 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:11 am

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Clyde_Style wrote:Thibs is the lamest playoff coach ever

This was the most undisciplined group of players imaginable tonight

We don't have any high enough IQ player currently being used in the rotation to organize the players from the floor

Brunson was at his worst tonight with zero leadership

A real coach would have corrected course multiple times during the game

What an embarrassment


Tonight was an embarrassment, but if you think of a team full of veterans in a close out playoff game need a coach that corrects this, there are MUCH BIGGER ISSUES THAN JUST THE COACH. Some of you think these players are like high school kids that listen and wait on a coach for every thing. These players if they are “good” enough should be able to correct it themselves


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Re: PG - this is the opposite of fun 

Post#327 » by mpharris36 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:13 am

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mpharris36 wrote:all i know is if we blow this I know I won't ever have to watch thibs coach another game.

Same. If they run back Thibs I'm out next year until they get a coach. We have the talent.


I think all the signs point to Mike Malone replacing Thibs

Mike probably has a chip on his shoulder after being fired from the Nuggets. Knicks have the most appealing roster if the coaching job becomes available.

He is only 53 years old, 10 years younger than when Thibs started this head coaching run with the Knicks.

His dad was an assistant coach with the Knicks during the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. The Knicks were also his dad's first NBA job.

Mike Malone's first NBA job was with the Knicks during his dad's last stint. So there's definitely a Dolan connection somewhere in there.



I wouldn't be thrilled with it. We would be going from old man thibs to a slightly young version of thibs.

We need a new modern day approach at this.

Again I am giving the rest of the post season to fully evaluate what we have but we have been plagued by the same things all season.
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Re: PG - this is the opposite of fun 

Post#328 » by NiceLikeChrist » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:13 am

ctorres wrote:
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mpharris36 wrote:all i know is if we blow this I know I won't ever have to watch thibs coach another game.

Same. If they run back Thibs I'm out next year until they get a coach. We have the talent.


I think all the signs point to Mike Malone replacing Thibs

Mike probably has a chip on his shoulder after being fired from the Nuggets. Knicks have the most appealing roster if the coaching job becomes available.

He is only 53 years old, 10 years younger than when Thibs started this head coaching run with the Knicks.

His dad was an assistant coach with the Knicks during the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. The Knicks were also his dad's first NBA job.

Mike Malone's first NBA job was with the Knicks during his dad's last stint. So there's definitely a Dolan connection somewhere in there.

is he any good? I don't know how much of nuggets success was coaching vs jokic being generational
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Re: PG - this is the opposite of fun 

Post#329 » by Jay10 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:13 am

ctorres wrote:
oldshoolballer wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:all i know is if we blow this I know I won't ever have to watch thibs coach another game.

Same. If they run back Thibs I'm out next year until they get a coach. We have the talent.


I think all the signs point to Mike Malone replacing Thibs

Mike probably has a chip on his shoulder after being fired from the Nuggets. Knicks have the most appealing roster if the coaching job becomes available.

He is only 53 years old, 10 years younger than when Thibs started this head coaching run with the Knicks.

His dad was an assistant coach with the Knicks during the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. The Knicks were also his dad's first NBA job.

Mike Malone's first NBA job was with the Knicks during his dad's last stint. So there's definitely a Dolan connection somewhere in there.


WWW might try to bring back his guy Johnnie Bryant.
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Post#330 » by ctorres » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:21 am

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Post#331 » by Ravenxvirall » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:23 am

ctorres wrote:
oldshoolballer wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:all i know is if we blow this I know I won't ever have to watch thibs coach another game.

Same. If they run back Thibs I'm out next year until they get a coach. We have the talent.


I think all the signs point to Mike Malone replacing Thibs

Mike probably has a chip on his shoulder after being fired from the Nuggets. Knicks have the most appealing roster if the coaching job becomes available.

He is only 53 years old, 10 years younger than when Thibs started this head coaching run with the Knicks.

His dad was an assistant coach with the Knicks during the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. The Knicks were also his dad's first NBA job.

Mike Malone's first NBA job was with the Knicks during his dad's last stint. So there's definitely a Dolan connection somewhere in there.

I get the idea but do we really want thibs+1 as our coach? And I’m honestly afraid it’s going to be thibs moved to the front office and Rick Brunson taking his place. It just screams Knicks style of move.
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Re: PG - this is the opposite of fun 

Post#332 » by Ravenxvirall » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:25 am

NiceLikeChrist wrote:
ctorres wrote:
oldshoolballer wrote:Same. If they run back Thibs I'm out next year until they get a coach. We have the talent.


I think all the signs point to Mike Malone replacing Thibs

Mike probably has a chip on his shoulder after being fired from the Nuggets. Knicks have the most appealing roster if the coaching job becomes available.

He is only 53 years old, 10 years younger than when Thibs started this head coaching run with the Knicks.

His dad was an assistant coach with the Knicks during the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. The Knicks were also his dad's first NBA job.

Mike Malone's first NBA job was with the Knicks during his dad's last stint. So there's definitely a Dolan connection somewhere in there.

is he any good? I don't know how much of nuggets success was coaching vs jokic being generational

He’s thibs with two more brain cells but also rubs players the wrong way, he’s a side step imo.
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Re: PG - this is the opposite of fun 

Post#333 » by HerSports85 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:28 am

Mikal really don't **** with Thibs

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Post#334 » by The KnicksFix » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:29 am

This is why we lose. This is why we are frustrated with Thibs

1. Thibs was successful when he has one or two bucket getters, and 3 guys who crash. See d rose and jimmy , with 3 crashers in Noah, boozer and deng. Same thing with jb, and divo with 3 crashers in hart, Ihart and og. But that offense doesn’t win you a ring. Today’s championship offensive sets have ball and player movement. Screens. Back cuts. Screen for the screener. We do none of that. And that’s why the offense runs down to 6-7 on the shot clock.

2. Why did we get KAT if we don’t spam pick and roll with him and Brunson? The problem is he’s not a good pick setter, but to remedy this, insert Mitch into the lineup and bench Hart. This leads me to my second point. Thibs’ mind numbing RIGIDITY. He hasn’t a clue for the game or understanding of how to make teams adjust to HIM.

3. And finally, our defense is horrid. Championship teams have multiple defensive sets to run. Box and 1. 2,3 zone, 3,2 zone. Instead we just run with an elite rim protector and rely on the supernova abilities of 2 wings. Again, see Noah with boozer and deng.

This is why we will never ever win with Thibs. The absolute best thing to do is to replace him with a modern coach. HE is the rate limiting factor and the sole reason a championship is not on our horizon until he is fired.
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Post#335 » by G_K_F » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:30 am

We’ll always have Donte’s 3 in Game 2 last year.

Might end up being the highlight of the Leon Rose era.
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Post#336 » by HerSports85 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:31 am

I've never heard a successful playoff coach keep saying that their team will adjust to what the other coach is doing. MF how about you make the other team adjust to what we are doing for once.
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Post#337 » by ScienceOfLosing » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:33 am

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We can’t even beat Detroit. There will be no championship in NY with Thibs.
If by some miracle we get past Detroit, Celtics will pound us.

Old Yeller treatment it is.

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Post#338 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:36 am

The KnicksFix wrote:This is why we lose. This is why we are frustrated with Thibs

1. Thibs was successful when he has one or two bucket getters, and 3 guys who crash. See d rose and jimmy , with 3 crashers in Noah, boozer and deng. Same thing with jb, and divo with 3 crashers in hart, Ihart and og. But that offense doesn’t win you a ring. Today’s championship offensive sets have ball and player movement. Screens. Back cuts. Screen for the screener. We do none of that. And that’s why the offense runs down to 6-7 on the shot clock.

2. Why did we get KAT if we don’t spam pick and roll with him and Brunson? The problem is he’s not a good pick setter, but to remedy this, insert Mitch into the lineup and bench Hart. This leads me to my second point. Thibs’ mind numbing RIGIDITY. He hasn’t a clue for the game or understanding of how to make teams adjust to HIM.

3. And finally, our defense is horrid. Championship teams have multiple defensive sets to run. Box and 1. 2,3 zone, 3,2 zone. Instead we just run with an elite rim protector and rely on the supernova abilities of 2 wings. Again, see Noah with boozer and deng.

This is why we will never ever win with Thibs. The absolute best thing to do is to replace him with a modern coach. HE is the rate limiting factor and the sole reason a championship is not on our horizon until he is fired.


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Post#339 » by Adelheid » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:37 am

they are following thibs' instructions to a tee, even against what they know as veteran players.
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Post#340 » by Ravenxvirall » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:39 am

HerSports85 wrote:I've never heard a successful playoff coach keep saying that their team will adjust to what the other coach is doing. MF how about you make the other team adjust to what we are doing for once.

He doesn’t know how to adjust anything at all. I mean how the **** do you adjust a 13 year olds 2k offense? Read and react? Wtf is that? It’s basic ball you play at the park lmao. He is so **** clueless and lives in iso ball sets non stop. No wonder he thinks his defense is still relevant, he’s still running it against his own dumb ass “offense”. Dude still thinks he’s a assistant on the 08 Celtics.

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