PG - this is the opposite of fun

[TheGreenArrow]

Blaming Thibs for everything is getting so boring

It’s because the Knicks traded for players that these posters wanted for years but since they were wrong about those players (and the ones we got rid of) they’re just going to blame everything on Thibs. And look I get it, Thibs has his flaws and I want to get JVG as head coach, but acting like Thibs is holding us from being a championship contender is nuts.

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Thibs can’t coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stannis]

All the good teams seem able to knock out their opponents in 5 games or less

Knicks are struggling with the Pistons. This just isn't a good sign

That's because we're not a contender and we'd get hosed by BOS/CLE. I don't get why people get surprised by our struggles under Thibs. The signs were there all season long.

I guess it's because it does seem like the Knicks can turn it on or off. But for wherever reasons, they seem to turn it off instead of continue to do what is working

[dakomish23]

Sure, but we still need a guy who can cook 1v1. That's playoff basketball. The reason this series looks so bad is there are 2 guys in the whole series who are really 1v1 players. their coach runs some PnR with baseline cuts. But those are the only plays were seeing in the whole series. Its just bad basketball with misused talent on our side. Though we need someone outside of Brunson who can create.

Team doesn't need a secondary creator as much as they need a coach that can maximize this offense.

We're gonna have to agree to disagree, mate

You can mitigate for lack of 1 vs 1 talent with well executed play calling. Obviously it can only overcome so much, but you can def squeeze every ounce of juice from the talent on the roster that way. I think we can agree that Thibs hasn't exactly done that.

[GONYK]

All of these issues matter way less if we can start treating the 3rd qtr like its part of the game and not an extension of halftime

[3toheadmelo]

Blaming Thibs for everything is getting so boring

It’s because the Knicks traded for players that these posters wanted for years but since they were wrong about those players (and the ones we got rid of) they’re just going to blame everything on Thibs. And look I get it, Thibs has his flaws and I want to get JVG as head coach, but acting like Thibs is holding us from being a championship contender is nuts.

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Thibs can’t coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean we traded for a bunch of players that can’t create so it’s Thibs fault he can’t turn them into shot creators overnight?

[Fury]

It’s because the Knicks traded for players that these posters wanted for years but since they were wrong about those players (and the ones we got rid of) they’re just going to blame everything on Thibs. And look I get it, Thibs has his flaws and I want to get JVG as head coach, but acting like Thibs is holding us from being a championship contender is nuts.

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Thibs can’t coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean we traded for a bunch of players that can’t create so it’s Thibs fault he can’t turn them into shot creators overnight?

The only difference between this year's playoff team and last year's playoff team in terms of guys who can create is Donte, who was like so so at creating and inconsistent from game to game. Is that really the issue?

[dakomish23]

Knicks win: Thibs deserves a statue outside MSG!

Knicks lose: Trade for this all time great, the roster isn't good enough to beat a lower playoff seed. All hail Thibs!

And I'm not even doing much hyperbole

They just don't know ball. That's all. Don't get mad, they just don't know ball.

When someone has to mischaracterize your argument as their only response, it means they can't defend their position.

And that's what's happening with the lie that anyone is saying that it is all 100% Thibs fault. They can't defend how bad he's been, so they have to pretend we're blaming every single thing that goes wrong exclusively on Thibs.

His shortfall is just a big slice of the pie of why we're underachieving. No one thinks we're turning into the 96 Bulls overnight the second we switch coaches

[LFGK]

Sometimes the truth is boring.

So none of the players are culpable at all ? It’s all just coaching. Cmon guys lol

We over rate our players historically, and we also love just ignoring their defense and overall effort.

KAT, Brunson and OG when healthy are above average starters. But not number 1 player on title team types. They will cost us 80% of our cap. There is no easy way out. There's no short cut home.

lol, this boards wild man....

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Sure, but we still need a guy who can cook 1v1. That's playoff basketball. The reason this series looks so bad is there are 2 guys in the whole series who are really 1v1 players. their coach runs some PnR with baseline cuts. But those are the only plays were seeing in the whole series. Its just bad basketball with misused talent on our side. Though we need someone outside of Brunson who can create.

Team doesn't need a secondary creator as much as they need a coach that can maximize this offense.

We're gonna have to agree to disagree, mate

The thing is, the Pistons have 1 creator, Cade is averaging 102 touches per game which is 3rd in the playoffs behind Haliburton and Jokic. Jalen is averaging 91 per game, we have 1 non shooter on the floor, they have 2 non shooters on the floor. Yet, their offense is running the same as ours, that shouldn't happen under any circumstance.

Their ORTG is 109.1 and ours is 109.2, our offense is running almost exactly the same as theirs, while they have more exploitable weaknesses on offense and rely on 1 player even more.

[god shammgod]

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Thibs can’t coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean we traded for a bunch of players that can’t create so it’s Thibs fault he can’t turn them into shot creators overnight?

The only difference between this year's playoff team and last year's playoff team in terms of guys who can create is Donte, who was like so so at creating and inconsistent from game to game. Is that really the issue?

randle could create for himself and others in a way the kat can't. did you ever think to yourself, we need to get randle the ball ? no, he just took it and did it himself. he had his faults but he could do that.

[Fury]

You mean we traded for a bunch of players that can’t create so it’s Thibs fault he can’t turn them into shot creators overnight?

The only difference between this year's playoff team and last year's playoff team in terms of guys who can create is Donte, who was like so so at creating and inconsistent from game to game. Is that really the issue?

randle could create for himself and others in a way the kat can't. did you ever think to yourself, we need to get randle the ball ? no, he just took it and did it himself. he had his faults but he could do that.

Okay, but I'm talking about playoffs, when Randle didn't play.

[Jeff Van Gully]

knicks actually had a very good 3rd quarter net rating in the regular season and a terrible 4th quarter net rating. playoffs have actually flipped.

bizarre

[Stannis]

Can't blame Thibs. Can't say anything "negative" about Brunson.

If criticizing Rose is off the table too, may as well close the board down.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

You mean we traded for a bunch of players that can’t create so it’s Thibs fault he can’t turn them into shot creators overnight?

The only difference between this year's playoff team and last year's playoff team in terms of guys who can create is Donte, who was like so so at creating and inconsistent from game to game. Is that really the issue?

randle could create for himself and others in a way the kat can't. did you ever think to yourself, we need to get randle the ball ? no, he just took it and did it himself. he had his faults but he could do that.

Fury said last years playoff team, which didn't have Randle on it.

Thank you for admitting yet again that you miss IHart, because it was his passing last year in addition to Donte in the playoffs. I knew you loved our proud brother from Germany.

[3toheadmelo]

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Thibs can’t coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean we traded for a bunch of players that can’t create so it’s Thibs fault he can’t turn them into shot creators overnight?

The only difference between this year's playoff team and last year's playoff team in terms of guys who can create is Donte, who was like so so at creating and inconsistent from game to game. Is that really the issue?

Ihart was also a creator from the high post. Randle was a big time creator for us

The biggest difference between this year’s team and last year’s is toughness and defense. This team is extremely soft.

[dakomish23]

The difference b/w last year Brunson and this year Brunson isn't FGA but when he picks his spots. He wasn't forcing the hero ball as much as he is this year. Last year his decision making was pretty immaculate.

[mpharris36]

All of these issues matter way less if we can start treating the 3rd qtr like its part of the game and not an extension of halftime

Mikal suggested layup lines!

[Jalen Bluntson]

Let Hart bring the ball up. Just don’t let him jump pass

Bridges and Hart should be aiding with ball handling.

Like why are guys watching Brunson being pressured. This is 8th grade stuff!!!! Come to the ball, get it up court and get into your sets ffs

Hart handles the ball the second most on the team, the problem is and always will be that he cannot shoot and doesn't put pressure on the rim when he's not in transition, so you really lose track of just how much he actually has the ball because it's mostly ending in a pass or a DHO.

When he was with the Nets Bridges ran the PnR 2x as much as he does with us, this is largely because Hart HAS to be on the ball often or else nobody would ever guard him. It's the Ben Simmons situation on a smaller scale, Hart is at least willing to shoot sometimes, but he doesn't shoot enough for the opponents to really worry.

Getting him the ball on drives to the net shouldn't be impossible to set up. We don't do that. It's his greatest strength on offense. We have him standing around on the perimeter looking scared to do anything except pass

[LFGK]

You mean we traded for a bunch of players that can’t create so it’s Thibs fault he can’t turn them into shot creators overnight?

The only difference between this year's playoff team and last year's playoff team in terms of guys who can create is Donte, who was like so so at creating and inconsistent from game to game. Is that really the issue?

Ihart was also a creator from the high post. Randle was a big time creator for us

The biggest difference between this year’s team and last year’s is toughness and defense. This team is extremely soft.

man I call bullsh*t on this soft stuff, there is nothing soft in this series, guys are all just missing shots they generally make. This has been one of the more physical series' i can remember in recent memory and the Knicks aren't backing down. This soft world is thrown around way to loosely.

[Jeff Van Gully]

thanks for your service, raja.

who's up for game 6 thread?