2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Jaime looks like a sad lost puppy. He doesn’t have the mental chops for this. He’ll be getting shipped out

[Rapaz]

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Translation: Pat Riley better fix this

[VaDe255]

How can Pat fix this?

-> Step down as GM
-> Promote Spo or keep him as coach if he is up for a rebuild
-> Let the new GM make a 3-5y plan how to rebuild the foundation from the ground to get enough talent, flexibility and assets to build a contender
-> Start selling off Bam/Tyler and execute it

That's the way to fix this, I know they won't and keep staying mid to "compete"

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Bam is the ultimate company man. You guys are insane if you think he’s getting traded anytime soon.

Honestly kind of tired of hearing “keep the main thing the main thing” and “don’t let go of the rope” he’s just a Heat Culture robot at this point but whatever lol.

Hes not as good as Wade obviously but they’re both all about the same things and are great leaders for the organization. He said his main goal is winning and he and Pat will talk about how to do that soon so that’s encouraging at least.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Bam says he was begging Spo to play Ware and Ware could compete for DPOY in the future

[Kobewade11]

How can Pat fix this?

-> Step down as GM
-> Promote Spo or keep him as coach if he is up for a rebuild
-> Let the new GM make a 3-5y plan how to rebuild the foundation from the ground to get enough talent, flexibility and assets to build a contender
-> Start selling off Bam/Tyler and execute it

That's the way to fix this, I know they won't and keep staying mid to "compete"

Andy Ellisburg is the team's GM

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Jesus Christ Ira let it go, this dude has not shut up about Jimmy

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Twitter running rampant with the Bam quote saying he’s going to ask out about wanting to win and speaking with Pat, I didn’t get that vibe at all but maybe I misread him

[Heat3]

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Translation: Pat Riley better fix this

Easiest way to start the fix is to ship Bam out

[MettaWorldPanda]

Twitter running rampant with the Bam quote saying he’s going to ask out about wanting to win and speaking with Pat, I didn’t get that vibe at all but maybe I misread him

Did not get any of that vibe whatsoever. It came off as Riley will consult with Bam on the changes that need to be made. Some in our fan base are becoming drama lunatic’s

[MettaWorldPanda]

I’ve been watching these interviews in great detail. Bam is the company guy and he wants Riley to make moves and he’ll he said Riley will be consulting with him. Don’t take these quotes out of context. See it for yourself. Bunch of drama ass bitches looking for clicks.

[VaDe255]

How can Pat fix this?

-> Step down as GM
-> Promote Spo or keep him as coach if he is up for a rebuild
-> Let the new GM make a 3-5y plan how to rebuild the foundation from the ground to get enough talent, flexibility and assets to build a contender
-> Start selling off Bam/Tyler and execute it

That's the way to fix this, I know they won't and keep staying mid to "compete"

Andy Ellisburg is the team's GM

As long as Riley’s running the show (president, GM whatever, it’s clear what I mean), a true rebuild isn’t happening.

His entire philosophy is built around winning now. He retools, he reloads, and he chases stars. That’s the Heat way under him: grind, compete, stay relevant. Even after LeBron left, he didn’t blow it up, he doubled down on vets and culture.

The Dragic trade is a perfect example. It gave them a solid player, but it kept them mid while sacrificing future picks that could’ve helped with a real reset. Moves like that show Riley’s always trying to stay competitive, even when a reset might be smarter long term.

The idea of trading Bam or Tyler for picks and starting a 3–5 year rebuild just doesn’t align with who Pat Riley is or how he operates. He’s too old to wait around and watch a youth movement grow into something years down the line. Unless he steps back completely, the organizational mindset won’t change.

That’s the issue not some job title, but the philosophy behind it. They’ve been mid for almost a decade now. Yeah, the Jimmy era was somewhat successful, but that was more of a fluke than anything sustainable.

[MiamiLoyal926]

Just a reminder why you don’t empty the cupboard for players like Dame….

While I feel for Dame, although I really do not because he is about to make nearly $60 million to recover at home… I did want to get in the “I told you so” (and I speak for myself and all the others in here who said Dame would not play up to his contract).

Let this be a reminder this summer as we navigate conversations surrounding players like Durant and what we are willing to give. Also, look at how bad the outlook for the Bucks and Suns currently is… which are teams who emptied their cupboards for players like Dame and Durant.

You waited 2 years after Dame was still balling out and got a fluke achilles injury to post this? You look at the structure of that Phoenix team and still posted this pertaining to KD? Yeah I can never take your opinion seriously anymore.

I waited to the precise time I said this would get ugly…. It was always year 3 and 4 that were a huge red flag, when his contract would spike, his production would likely decline (as supported by historical data of similar players), and injury concerns would rise.

Patience is a virtue. I made a statement 2 years ago that he would not be worth his year 3 and 4 contract. Guess what… we just ended year 2 and as stated two years ago, we already know for a FACT that year 3 and 4 are a problem. We can say with certainty, before the 3rd season even starts that the contract and this situation just got ugly for the Bucks as predicted.

The fact that you can’t take my opinion serious despite it being based on logic and now supported by evidence is exactly why talking ball with you is a lost cause. Even when the evidence is in your face, you deflate and distract by accusing and belittling.

As for the PHX comment… I looked at their situation and logically yes, made this post. How is that not evidence of why emptying the cupboard for a player like KD or Dame is not a great idea. It literally did not work out for the two teams who emptied the cupboard for those two exact players! Baffling to me how that does not qualify as supporting evidence.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

This team desperately needs more consistent 3 point shooting. Watching the way the Cavs and Celts Spam 3’s and we are just terribly void of that.

[Kobewade11]

How can Pat fix this?

-> Step down as GM
-> Promote Spo or keep him as coach if he is up for a rebuild
-> Let the new GM make a 3-5y plan how to rebuild the foundation from the ground to get enough talent, flexibility and assets to build a contender
-> Start selling off Bam/Tyler and execute it

That's the way to fix this, I know they won't and keep staying mid to "compete"

Andy Ellisburg is the team's GM

As long as Riley’s running the show (president, GM whatever, it’s clear what I mean), a true rebuild isn’t happening.

His entire philosophy is built around winning now. He retools, he reloads, and he chases stars. That’s the Heat way under him: grind, compete, stay relevant. Even after LeBron left, he didn’t blow it up, he doubled down on vets and culture.

The Dragic trade is a perfect example. It gave them a solid player, but it kept them mid while sacrificing future picks that could’ve helped with a real reset. Moves like that show Riley’s always trying to stay competitive, even when a reset might be smarter long term.

Well, its not just a “Pat Riley” philosophy, its the ethos of the organization. The Heat are an insular group, whoever eventually secedes Riles as the figurehead of the organization, not GM, whether thats Zo or someone else from the inner circle is not going to break that trend. And I couldnt really read past the example you provided, Dragic was brought in to be the third piece with Wade and Bosh. That’s a competitive core, Bosh got ill, bad break for us.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Duncan, Terry, and Wiggins $75M combined ($47M expiring) “should” all be off the roster by next season.

Add Anderson and Love and that’s $90M worth of guys that contributed nothing in the playoffs, no other playoff team has that sort of money in dead weight on the roster (I did not verify but I’d be shocked).

Build a legitimate roster.

[Lennyzinho]

Some of yall are focusing on the wrong thing. Trashing players that have done everything in their power to get us W's. Talent is talent.

Saying durant wouldn't change us drastically? Like... Jimmy turned a warriors team that was UNDER .500 ball... went 20-4 with him and are now up 3-1 on the 2nd seed rockets. 1 player CAN make all the difference. Changes scheme, fit, depth, rotations. Be serious. Would durant do that for us? Maybe. Maybe not. But durant over wiggins or rozier/Duncan would absolutely elevate us.

Be upset at the roster, not Bam and Herro. "Omg we are a 10 seed and got wrecked by the first place 62 win Cavs who have been together for years and built chemistry!! Not fair!! Bam sucks!" Jfc...

You put prime messi on the worst spanish club and have them play against real madrid or barcelona, guess what? His team would get rocked.

Bam and Herro aren't the problem. Rozier wiggins SloMo Duncan making 80M and all contributing nothing in playoffs is the problem. I'm angry too. I never wanted to make the playoffs. I wanted a shot at a top 4 draft pick during the upcoming lottery. But saying trade Bam for zion ain't it. Like. Come on yall.

I love that we got rocked and bam is mad. Riley better make moves. We have picks. We have assets. We have salaries. We have young players. Now we wait and hope for the best. Xoxo. Keep the faith.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I actually don’t mind this considering it’s $4M expiring. He is clearly close with this group and they value him and his presence.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Some of yall are focusing on the wrong thing. Trashing players that have done everything in their power to get us W's. Talent is talent.

Saying durant wouldn't change us drastically? Like... Jimmy turned a warriors team that was UNDER .500 ball... went 20-4 with him and are now up 3-1 on the 2nd seed rockets. 1 player CAN make all the difference. Changes scheme, fit, depth, rotations. Be serious. Would durant do that for us? Maybe. Maybe not. But durant over wiggins or rozier/Duncan would absolutely elevate us.

Be upset at the roster, not Bam and Herro. "Omg we are a 10 seed and got wrecked by the first place 62 win Cavs who have been together for years and built chemistry!! Not fair!! Bam sucks!" Jfc...

You put prime messi on the worst spanish club and have them play against real madrid or barcelona, guess what? His team would get rocked.

Bam and Herro aren't the problem. Rozier wiggins SloMo Duncan making 80M and all contributing nothing in playoffs is the problem. I'm angry too. I never wanted to make the playoffs. I wanted a shot at a top 4 draft pick during the upcoming lottery. But saying trade Bam for zion ain't it. Like. Come on yall.

I love that we got rocked and bam is mad. Riley better make moves. We have picks. We have assets. We have salaries. We have young players. Now we wait and hope for the best. Xoxo. Keep the faith.

Great perspective Lenny.

I’ll add to this, we were making deep runs with Jimmy/Bam/Spo a couple vets and a bunch of undrafted guys. Why can’t we do it again if we fill out the roster with legit role players (one of them being an above average playmaker), get continued development from our guys (bam/Herro/Ware), and add a KD.

If Herros next step is to be able to carry over his scoring to the playoffs in a reduce role, considering he was out in our previous deep runs, is it Jimmy >>>> Herro, KD, improved Bam, and the new wrinkle the size of Ware brings? I have a hard time believing that.