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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#441 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:19 pm

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Still would have been worth it for Miami for 2 years adding Dame to the mix with Jimmy and Bam. That's 2 years of top tier contention giving Jimmy and Bam the exact running mate they needed to balance out the team dynamic. Yes the back end of the contract always had potential for eating 1-2 hairier seasons. Def not blanket worth it for every team. The fit with Giannis was never as good due to them both needing the ball to impact the game/


Dames numbers without Giannis these last 2 years were insane, that’s the role he would’ve been in here. May have gotten hurt, may have not. That can be said for anyone.

32-5-9 on 66TS% for Dame without Giannis, no one on the team can match that level of production and every time we play them you can just see the gap in his offensive game compared to anyone we have.


He would have definitely been an overall better fit here than he was next to Giannis… and would have been way more engaged and motivated being on the team and city of his choice. Butler would have also been in the GSW role here, with Dame as his Steph, and Bam as his Draymond.

Sucks for Bucks to have to carry over 50 million in dead weight next year. Hopefully he could bounce back for year 4.


Unfortunately I think he’s cooked, hopefully I’m wrong but a small guard at the age of like 35 now tearing his Achilles is a career killer.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#443 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:22 pm

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Pat will talk to Bam about KD and Bam will say no brainer.

Why would KD choose to come here when he’ll have multiple other suitors?

Because dealing for KD is complex. It's not easy matching a 54 million dollar contract, someone has to be willing to extend him for the next two years at 120 million, teams have to be willing to give up some young assets on top of all that for an aging player that might not fit there timeline. Oddly enough we meet the criteria here in getting a deal done that doesn't purge the team of it's core pieces of Ware, Bam, and Herro. We had extensive discussions with the Suns at the deadline about Durant but they balked at the time as probably to save a little face for not having the means to get the Butler deal done. This offseason will be a whole lot different with Durant as an impending free agent. He's had us high on his list before due to his respect for our organization, Spo, and Bam. He knows what we are about and can change things here very quickly starting with him.
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Get it done MWP, don’t switch sides in 2 weeks lol!!

Been holding firm on getting KD cause I know we have what it takes to get it done. Giannis is a complete pipe dream joke but Durant is right there for us. We have the expiring contracts the Suns want and just enough expendable young pieces to get this over the hump.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#445 » by Kobewade11 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:45 pm

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Yeah, look I'm talking about building a team, which can win a championship in a sustainable way. Not staying mid and maybe make the ECF when the draw just breaks right and you can fluke into it.

Since no one is entitled to perpetually compete for a title, I assume that by winning a championship in a sustainable way you mean having a large championship window? Without a generational talent, or multiple elite talents, your core has a finite time to compete, that may not be “sustainable” due to the everchanging landscape of the league. The exceptions are teams like Boston, two elite wings at 27-28..they can move pieces around the next 4 years and expect to be in title contention. I know, “let’s sell off our guys so we can stockpile assets and do the same”. We romanticize this idea and overlook the sheer luck that you have to stumble into, thats not a sustainable way to build a team either and there are plenty of examples.
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Post#446 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:53 pm

Spurs fans have now trade for Bam using Keldon, Barnes and 2 1sts.

Lakers fans have trade for Bam using Knecht and a 1st.

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Post#447 » by Slot Machine » Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:54 pm

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Pat will talk to Bam about KD and Bam will say no brainer.

Why would KD choose to come here when he’ll have multiple other suitors?

Because dealing for KD is complex. It's not easy matching a 54 million dollar contract, someone has to be willing to extend him for the next two years at 120 million, teams have to be willing to give up some young assets on top of all that for an aging player that might not fit there timeline. Oddly enough we meet the criteria here in getting a deal done that doesn't purge the team of it's core pieces of Ware, Bam, and Herro. We had extensive discussions with the Suns at the deadline about Durant but they balked at the time as probably to save a little face for not having the means to get the Butler deal done. This offseason will be a whole lot different with Durant as an impending free agent. He's had us high on his list before due to his respect for our organization, Spo, and Bam. He knows what we are about and can change things here very quickly starting with him.

Thanks for the response. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree as I don’t see how any of the points you mentioned don’t also apply to other teams that could plausibly go for Durant.

Durant could help be the missing piece for a bunch of teams that are very close, but he’s going to sign up to be the “missing piece” (to some select Heat fans) on a 37-win team that’s just gotten blown off the floor? You really think thats where he’d want to end his career because he respects Bam and Spo? I can’t see that at all but maybe you’re right.

Why wouldn’t he just join one of the teams that’s better than us, has a better future and has a more defined need? I don’t see KD signing up here to bring us from 37 to 47 wins next year when he could compete for a championship or at least a deep playoff run.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#448 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:54 pm

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Get it done MWP, don’t switch sides in 2 weeks lol!!

Been holding firm on getting KD cause I know we have what it takes to get it done. Giannis is a complete pipe dream joke but Durant is right there for us. We have the expiring contracts the Suns want and just enough expendable young pieces to get this over the hump.


Don’t get me started about the 3rd guy that was around them majority of the time as well :o
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#450 » by VaDe255 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:26 pm

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Yeah, look I'm talking about building a team, which can win a championship in a sustainable way. Not staying mid and maybe make the ECF when the draw just breaks right and you can fluke into it.

Since no one is entitled to perpetually compete for a title, I assume that by winning a championship in a sustainable way you mean having a large championship window? Without a generational talent, or multiple elite talents, your core has a finite time to compete, that may not be “sustainable” due to the everchanging landscape of the league. The exceptions are teams like Boston, two elite wings at 27-28..they can move pieces around the next 4 years and expect to be in title contention. I know, “let’s sell off our guys so we can stockpile assets and do the same”. We romanticize this idea and overlook the sheer luck that you have to stumble into, thats not a sustainable way to build a team either and there are plenty of examples.


Boston
- #3 Tatum
- #3 Brown

Traded for White, KP, Jrue, drafted Pritchard late
Drafted well to have their foundation players, and kept putting players around them until they found a great group.

OKC
- #11 SGA (in a trade for PG)
- #2 Chat
- #12 JDub

Built through trades and the draft; trusted a long-term rebuild and have tons of picks and flexibility.

Houston
- #16 Sengun (came back in a trade)
- #4 Amen Thompson
- #2 Jalen Green

Bottomed out, collected picks, and developed talent instead of chasing mid-tier success.

There are more examples, but these 3 didn't even win the draft lottery, and it only took them a few years to execute the rebuild. This doesn't even have to take long, 1-2 years could be enough depending on how many picks and young players you would get for Bam/Herro.

This really isn't anything new, it's how you can build a sustainable foundation with assets and cap flexibility.
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Post#451 » by oreon » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:38 pm

VaDe255 wrote:
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Yeah, look I'm talking about building a team, which can win a championship in a sustainable way. Not staying mid and maybe make the ECF when the draw just breaks right and you can fluke into it.

Since no one is entitled to perpetually compete for a title, I assume that by winning a championship in a sustainable way you mean having a large championship window? Without a generational talent, or multiple elite talents, your core has a finite time to compete, that may not be “sustainable” due to the everchanging landscape of the league. The exceptions are teams like Boston, two elite wings at 27-28..they can move pieces around the next 4 years and expect to be in title contention. I know, “let’s sell off our guys so we can stockpile assets and do the same”. We romanticize this idea and overlook the sheer luck that you have to stumble into, thats not a sustainable way to build a team either and there are plenty of examples.


Boston
- #3 Tatum
- #3 Brown

Traded for White, KP, Jrue, drafted Pritchard late
Drafted well to have their foundation players, and kept putting players around them until they found a great group.

OKC
- #11 SGA (in a trade for PG)
- #2 Chat
- #12 JDub

Built through trades and the draft; trusted a long-term rebuild and have tons of picks and flexibility.

Houston
- #16 Sengun (came back in a trade)
- #4 Amen Thompson
- #2 Jalen Green

Bottomed out, collected picks, and developed talent instead of chasing mid-tier success.

There are more examples, but these 3 didn't even win the draft lottery, and it only took them a few years to execute the rebuild. This doesn't even have to take long, 1-2 years could be enough depending on how many picks and young players you would get for Bam/Herro.

This really isn't anything new, it's how you can build a sustainable foundation with assets and cap flexibility.


Exactly. Not every team can do it. But if you are great at drafting and development this is a viable route. Ideally if Heat were to trade Bam & Herro and bottom you hope to get a franchise player. But if not, then the next best thing is being in a situation like Houston. Where you have one or two young players that possibly have allstar potential. A couple other intriguing young assets and a ton of draft capital from other teams. In addition you will have a ton of financial flexibility . That puts in a position to trade for a mega star and still have assets to trade for another star and maybe keep one of your best players. I mean look at Spurs even if they didn't land Wemby they were setup to be able to execute multiple trades for allstars.

This is where if you reset it has to be both Herro and Bam. Herro alone doesn't give you the extra draft capital you need. But both maybe they can get you 5 - 6 1st rounders
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#452 » by Kobewade11 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:39 pm

VaDe255 wrote:
Boston
- #3 Tatum
- #3 Brown

Traded for White, KP, Jrue, drafted Pritchard late
Drafted well to have their foundation players, and kept putting players around them until they found a great group.

OKC
- #11 SGA (in a trade for PG)
- #2 Chat
- #12 JDub

Built through trades and the draft; trusted a long-term rebuild and have tons of picks and flexibility.

Houston
- #16 Sengun (came back in a trade)
- #4 Amen Thompson
- #2 Jalen Green

Bottomed out, collected picks, and developed talent instead of chasing mid-tier success.

There are more examples, but these 3 didn't even win the draft lottery, and it only took them a few years to execute the rebuild. This doesn't even have to take long, 1-2 years could be enough depending on how many picks and young players you would get for Bam/Herro.

This really isn't anything new, it's how you can build a sustainable foundation with assets and cap flexibility.


Boston: The trades don't matter without Tatum and Brown, I clearly named them as one of the outliers in my previous post.
OKC: Didn't draft SGA, but they were fortunate that PG forced his way to LA.
Houston: Currently down 3-1 as the #2 seed and their fans want Jalen Green gone. What championships do they have to show for bottoming out and collecting picks? I thought that's what this was supposed to be about..."winning championships in a sustainable way"?

So now that you got those 3 teams out of the way, you ready to go through an exercise of the teams that also followed the bottom out model? You know, the ones that aren't listed?
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#453 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:41 pm

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Slot Machine wrote:Why would KD choose to come here when he’ll have multiple other suitors?

Because dealing for KD is complex. It's not easy matching a 54 million dollar contract, someone has to be willing to extend him for the next two years at 120 million, teams have to be willing to give up some young assets on top of all that for an aging player that might not fit there timeline. Oddly enough we meet the criteria here in getting a deal done that doesn't purge the team of it's core pieces of Ware, Bam, and Herro. We had extensive discussions with the Suns at the deadline about Durant but they balked at the time as probably to save a little face for not having the means to get the Butler deal done. This offseason will be a whole lot different with Durant as an impending free agent. He's had us high on his list before due to his respect for our organization, Spo, and Bam. He knows what we are about and can change things here very quickly starting with him.

Thanks for the response. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree as I don’t see how any of the points you mentioned don’t also apply to other teams that could plausibly go for Durant.

Durant could help be the missing piece for a bunch of teams that are very close, but he’s going to sign up to be the “missing piece” (to some select Heat fans) on a 37-win team that’s just gotten blown off the floor? You really think thats where he’d want to end his career because he respects Bam and Spo? I can’t see that at all but maybe you’re right.

Why wouldn’t he just join one of the teams that’s better than us, has a better future and has a more defined need? I don’t see KD signing up here to bring us from 37 to 47 wins next year when he could compete for a championship or at least a deep playoff run.

In the end the Heat might be the most logical choice for the Suns to deal him here for the assets we are offering yet still offering Durant a good destination. Let alone zero sales tax on that new extension. They are worst places to end your career at.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#454 » by Lennyzinho » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:45 pm

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Lennyzinho wrote:Some of yall are focusing on the wrong thing. Trashing players that have done everything in their power to get us W's. Talent is talent.

Saying durant wouldn't change us drastically? Like... Jimmy turned a warriors team that was UNDER .500 ball... went 20-4 with him and are now up 3-1 on the 2nd seed rockets. 1 player CAN make all the difference. Changes scheme, fit, depth, rotations. Be serious. Would durant do that for us? Maybe. Maybe not. But durant over wiggins or rozier/Duncan would absolutely elevate us.

Be upset at the roster, not Bam and Herro. "Omg we are a 10 seed and got wrecked by the first place 62 win Cavs who have been together for years and built chemistry!! Not fair!! Bam sucks!" Jfc...

You put prime messi on the worst spanish club and have them play against real madrid or barcelona, guess what? His team would get rocked.

Bam and Herro aren't the problem. Rozier wiggins SloMo Duncan making 80M and all contributing nothing in playoffs is the problem. I'm angry too. I never wanted to make the playoffs. I wanted a shot at a top 4 draft pick during the upcoming lottery. But saying trade Bam for zion ain't it. Like. Come on yall.

I love that we got rocked and bam is mad. Riley better make moves. We have picks. We have assets. We have salaries. We have young players. Now we wait and hope for the best. Xoxo. Keep the faith.


Great perspective Lenny.

I’ll add to this, we were making deep runs with Jimmy/Bam/Spo a couple vets and a bunch of undrafted guys. Why can’t we do it again if we fill out the roster with legit role players (one of them being an above average playmaker), get continued development from our guys (bam/Herro/Ware), and add a KD.

If Herros next step is to be able to carry over his scoring to the playoffs in a reduce role, considering he was out in our previous deep runs, is it Jimmy >>>> Herro, KD, improved Bam, and the new wrinkle the size of Ware brings? I have a hard time believing that.


Please someone look this up if even possible. When's the last time we won a playoff series we were expected or favored to win? Since Jimmy joined this roster, how many playoff wins did we have and how many of those were we favored to win as far as series goes?

What does that tell you? Spo Jimmy bam constantly over achieved. Which means the roster was never really that good. Whether it was Lowry or rozier or Duncan and now wiggins. Always significant dead weight as far as salary goes. It's Riley. Full stop. The only reason we arent even MORE effed, is thanks to caleb being greedy and us never getting dame. Saved from ourselves.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#455 » by Shewasfly » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:46 pm

If the FO swings and misses at bringing any of the stars that are going to be available and that we actually have any chance at this summer--Durant, Ja, Zion--I don't see the argument against trading Bam and Herro anymore. They are not generational or even first option talent, so if we can't put that next to them, we are just delaying. And also possibly staying just mediocre enough to not have a lottery pick next year when we own it.

So if the "retool" plan falls through, I think we trade them for as much as can be had in terms of draft picks and expirings.
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Post#456 » by greg4012 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:46 pm

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Post#457 » by Lennyzinho » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:54 pm

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Pat will talk to Bam about KD and Bam will say no brainer.

Why would KD choose to come here when he’ll have multiple other suitors?


City. Coach. Bam. Herro. Taxes. Fit. Role.

Do we know if he fux with Ime Udoka? Do we know if he wants to play with Dillon brooks and young dudes?

Do we know if he wants to go back to OKC (if they even want him, I don't see why they would if they win it all or make finals - altho I think they'll entertain Giannis).

Dude is at the end, he's gonna want to go somewhere where he wants to live. With consistency in personnel. Where he can win. Playiny with a coach and players he likes. East is also much easier than west, especially if giannis goes to a West team. I think we provide all of that. And I think the giannis sweepstakes will have teams fighting over the Greek freak and forgetting about Durant. If we show interest in him since day 1, that could also endear us to him. Show him he's the focus and who we want.
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Post#458 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:02 pm

Lennyzinho wrote:
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Lennyzinho wrote:Some of yall are focusing on the wrong thing. Trashing players that have done everything in their power to get us W's. Talent is talent.

Saying durant wouldn't change us drastically? Like... Jimmy turned a warriors team that was UNDER .500 ball... went 20-4 with him and are now up 3-1 on the 2nd seed rockets. 1 player CAN make all the difference. Changes scheme, fit, depth, rotations. Be serious. Would durant do that for us? Maybe. Maybe not. But durant over wiggins or rozier/Duncan would absolutely elevate us.

Be upset at the roster, not Bam and Herro. "Omg we are a 10 seed and got wrecked by the first place 62 win Cavs who have been together for years and built chemistry!! Not fair!! Bam sucks!" Jfc...

You put prime messi on the worst spanish club and have them play against real madrid or barcelona, guess what? His team would get rocked.

Bam and Herro aren't the problem. Rozier wiggins SloMo Duncan making 80M and all contributing nothing in playoffs is the problem. I'm angry too. I never wanted to make the playoffs. I wanted a shot at a top 4 draft pick during the upcoming lottery. But saying trade Bam for zion ain't it. Like. Come on yall.

I love that we got rocked and bam is mad. Riley better make moves. We have picks. We have assets. We have salaries. We have young players. Now we wait and hope for the best. Xoxo. Keep the faith.


Great perspective Lenny.

I’ll add to this, we were making deep runs with Jimmy/Bam/Spo a couple vets and a bunch of undrafted guys. Why can’t we do it again if we fill out the roster with legit role players (one of them being an above average playmaker), get continued development from our guys (bam/Herro/Ware), and add a KD.

If Herros next step is to be able to carry over his scoring to the playoffs in a reduce role, considering he was out in our previous deep runs, is it Jimmy >>>> Herro, KD, improved Bam, and the new wrinkle the size of Ware brings? I have a hard time believing that.


Please someone look this up if even possible. When's the last time we won a playoff series we were expected or favored to win? Since Jimmy joined this roster, how many playoff wins did we have and how many of those were we favored to win as far as series goes?

What does that tell you? Spo Jimmy bam constantly over achieved. Which means the roster was never really that good. Whether it was Lowry or rozier or Duncan and now wiggins. Always significant dead weight as far as salary goes. It's Riley. Full stop. The only reason we arent even MORE effed, is thanks to caleb being greedy and us never getting dame. Saved from ourselves.


Even the year we were the 1st seed they were saying the Hawks were going to beat us because Trae was the best player in the series if you remember that lol. We’ve NEVER been expected to win.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#459 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:03 pm

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Pat will talk to Bam about KD and Bam will say no brainer.

Why would KD choose to come here when he’ll have multiple other suitors?


City. Coach. Bam. Herro. Taxes. Fit. Role.

Do we know if he fux with Ime Udoka? Do we know if he wants to play with Dillon brooks and young dudes?

Do we know if he wants to go back to OKC (if they even want him, I don't see why they would if they win it all or make finals - altho I think they'll entertain Giannis).

Dude is at the end, he's gonna want to go somewhere where he wants to live. With consistency in personnel. Where he can win. Playiny with a coach and players he likes. East is also much easier than west, especially if giannis goes to a West team. I think we provide all of that. And I think the giannis sweepstakes will have teams fighting over the Greek freak and forgetting about Durant. If we show interest in him since day 1, that could also endear us to him. Show him he's the focus and who we want.


We’re a proven winning organization on top of that, why would he want to go somewhere like Houston that hasn’t won anything in 30 years?
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#460 » by VaDe255 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:24 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:
Boston
- #3 Tatum
- #3 Brown

Traded for White, KP, Jrue, drafted Pritchard late
Drafted well to have their foundation players, and kept putting players around them until they found a great group.

OKC
- #11 SGA (in a trade for PG)
- #2 Chat
- #12 JDub

Built through trades and the draft; trusted a long-term rebuild and have tons of picks and flexibility.

Houston
- #16 Sengun (came back in a trade)
- #4 Amen Thompson
- #2 Jalen Green

Bottomed out, collected picks, and developed talent instead of chasing mid-tier success.

There are more examples, but these 3 didn't even win the draft lottery, and it only took them a few years to execute the rebuild. This doesn't even have to take long, 1-2 years could be enough depending on how many picks and young players you would get for Bam/Herro.

This really isn't anything new, it's how you can build a sustainable foundation with assets and cap flexibility.


Boston: The trades don't matter without Tatum and Brown, I clearly named them as one of the outliers in my previous post.
OKC: Didn't draft SGA, but they were fortunate that PG forced his way to LA.
Houston: Currently down 3-1 as the #2 seed and their fans want Jalen Green gone. What championships do they have to show for bottoming out and collecting picks? I thought that's what this was supposed to be about..."winning championships in a sustainable way"?

So now that you got those 3 teams out of the way, you ready to go through an exercise of the teams that also followed the bottom out model? You know, the ones that aren't listed?


Boston isn’t an outlier, they made a conscious decision to rebuild when it was time. They traded Pierce and Garnett for picks, cleared cap space, and built a foundation through the draft. Tatum and Brown didn’t just fall in their lap, they were the result of smart planning, scouting and patience.

OKC is the same story. Yes, PG asked out, but they didn’t cling to false hope or chase a 6 seeds, they pivoted fast. They moved Westbrook shortly after, then Chris Paul. That created space for Shai to develop, gave them flexibility, and allowed them to play young guys in real minutes, something teams like the Heat would never do mid-cycle (they freaking tried to compete with Wiggins/Kyle, thank god they accidently picked up Davion, who is a great piece). They didn’t just luck into where they are now, it was a concious decision in a high pressure situation when they were forced to react.

Houston? Still in progress. They have a strong young core, flexibility, and a real defensive identity forming under Ime Udoka. They’re ahead of schedule compared to where most tanking teams are after three years and in the long run, they created the conditions for sustainable success: reps for young players, coaching continuity, and cap space. Amen is going to be great and they even have the #9 pick in this draft and could trade for a guy like Giannis who could be available.

The teams that do it well aren’t lucky, they’re deliberate, follow a plan and develop a winning culture in a stable environment. The teams that refuse to bottom out or chase fake contention stay stuck in the middle.

When you look at the last 20 years, most teams that win have a top guy who is a home grown talent and sometimes there is a trade for a final piece around that core, which pushes the team over the top. It's the exception that a championship team is built trading for a top guy or FA signing (especially now), it rarely happens.

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