NBA General Discussion: 2025 Offseason

[Zumramania]

Sengun is Temu Jokic.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Doc Rivers should never, ever, EVER be allowed to coach again. What a classic choke job by the an all time idiota of a coach. I get it...Milwaukee was done either way, but Holy crap! Doc with another notch on his choke record.

[Stanford]

Once again, Giannis proves that he is everything people think Embiid is. What a cornball.

[Iverson Armband]

Once again, Giannis proves that he is everything people think Embiid is. What a cornball.

Giannis being a doofus doesn’t make Embiid any less of one himself. Difference is one has a championship.

[Stanford]

Once again, Giannis proves that he is everything people think Embiid is. What a cornball.

Giannis being a doofus doesn’t make Embiid any less of one himself. Difference is one has a championship.

Difference is that everyone goes out of their way to praise Giannis for his maturity.

[Iverson Armband]

Once again, Giannis proves that he is everything people think Embiid is. What a cornball.

Giannis being a doofus doesn’t make Embiid any less of one himself. Difference is one has a championship.

Difference is that everyone goes out of their way to praise Giannis for his maturity.

I get that. Giannis being seen as a winner buys him a lot of good grace. He also “brings it” every game. That does a lot for someone’s narrative.

Also, Halliburton’s dad is a jackass FWIW.

[Stanford]

Also, Halliburton’s dad is a jackass FWIW.

No doubt.

[Stanford]

I think it's unfair to criticize Doc for the Bucks series. Sure, his team lost four games but shouldn't he get credit for winning the one?

[Iverson Armband]

I think it's unfair to criticize Doc for the Bucks series. Sure, his team lost four games but shouldn't he get credit for winning the one?

I don’t know, would you ask Pop that question?

[mjkvol]

I think it's unfair to criticize Doc for the Bucks series. Sure, his team lost four games but shouldn't he get credit for winning the one?

Brilliant. You beat me to it.

Funny, but MIL is in the same situation as we've been a number of times in the last few years - stuck at the same middling level, capped out with expensive and untradable players, and a heavy usage superstar in his prime but aging, given his dependence on athleticism.

Will they take the Sixers route and keep trying to put band aids on a growing gash, or show some foresight and move Giannis for a king's ransom while they can still get one for him?

[ProcessDoctor]

I think it's unfair to criticize Doc for the Bucks series. Sure, his team lost four games but shouldn't he get credit for winning the one?

Brilliant. You beat me to it.

Funny, but MIL is in the same situation as we've been a number of times in the last few years - stuck at the same middling level, capped out with expensive and untradable players, and a heavy usage superstar in his prime but aging, given his dependence on athleticism.

Will they take the Sixers route and keep trying to put band aids on a growing gash, or show some foresight and move Giannis for a king's ransom while they can still get one for him?

I kinda think that both teams have had similar philosophies - the differences are that:

A) They’ve broken through to win a chip
B) Giannis has had more healthy playoff runs than Embiid (though less than people realize)

[Stanford]

I think it's unfair to criticize Doc for the Bucks series. Sure, his team lost four games but shouldn't he get credit for winning the one?

Brilliant. You beat me to it.

Talk about parallel thinking. I think every Sixers fan in the world thought of the same joke this morning.

[stormi]

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I don't think he has the traits to be the very best player in the league, but he's no lower than 3 for me going forward and I'd take him over Luka at this point, which may or may not be controversial.

1 of 1 role malleability for a superstar and legit two-way impact.

[Negrodamus]

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I don't think he has the traits to be the very best player in the league, but he's no lower than 3 for me going forward and I'd take him over Luka at this point, which may or may not be controversial.

1 of 1 role malleability for a superstar and legit two-way impact.

I look forward to when he's 29, Horford and Porzingis are gone, Holiday is 36 and over the hill. Then it's not just having four shooters who are plus defenders and Jaylen Brown on the court. In the highlight above, the defenders are **** their pants on any fake Tatum makes because everyone is a capable shooter.

Don't get me wrong, he's talented and I would love him if we drafted him instead of Fultz. But he has REALLY benefitted from everything falling together nicely into this juggernaut of a lineup.

[stormi]

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I don't think he has the traits to be the very best player in the league, but he's no lower than 3 for me going forward and I'd take him over Luka at this point, which may or may not be controversial.

1 of 1 role malleability for a superstar and legit two-way impact.

I look forward to when he's 29, Horford and Porzingis are gone, Holiday is 36 and over the hill. Then it's not just having four shooters who are plus defenders and Jaylen Brown on the court. In the highlight above, the defenders are **** their pants on any fake Tatum makes because everyone is a capable shooter.

Don't get me wrong, he's talented and I would love him if we drafted him instead of Fultz. But he has REALLY benefitted from everything falling together nicely into this juggernaut of a lineup.

LMAOOOOO

Good hating.

I do wonder what he'd look like if he were surrounded on an absolute barren wasteland, I don't think he's a god-level floor raiser but his essentially perfect portability makes him a transcendent role player like star.

His big game catalogue is very real too, even if he's playing on a superteam with at least three other champ level #2s.

[Negrodamus]

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I don't think he has the traits to be the very best player in the league, but he's no lower than 3 for me going forward and I'd take him over Luka at this point, which may or may not be controversial.

1 of 1 role malleability for a superstar and legit two-way impact.

I look forward to when he's 29, Horford and Porzingis are gone, Holiday is 36 and over the hill. Then it's not just having four shooters who are plus defenders and Jaylen Brown on the court. In the highlight above, the defenders are **** their pants on any fake Tatum makes because everyone is a capable shooter.

Don't get me wrong, he's talented and I would love him if we drafted him instead of Fultz. But he has REALLY benefitted from everything falling together nicely into this juggernaut of a lineup.

LMAOOOOO

Good hating.

I do wonder what he'd look like if he were surrounded on an absolute barren wasteland, I don't think he's a god-level floor raiser but his essentially perfect portability makes him a transcendent role player like star.

His big game catalogue is very real too, even if he's playing on a superteam with at least three other champ level #2s.

It's ironic I dislike him so much since I was carrying water for him during the draft process only for him to come to the NBA and be the corniest **** in the league.

He disappears a lot in games (look no further than our series with Harden), but when he gets hot, it's stupid; he just hits every goddamn three regardless of how hard he's being defended. I think of him as Ray Allen in his prime. Big time star, all time shooter, appreciated around the league... but he's not Kobe, AI, TMac. I know Tatum has more accolades, but I don't fear him personally like I would a SGA or Jokic or healthy Kawhi Leonard. I fear the entity of the Celtics more so.

[Gant]

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I don't think he has the traits to be the very best player in the league, but he's no lower than 3 for me going forward and I'd take him over Luka at this point, which may or may not be controversial.

1 of 1 role malleability for a superstar and legit two-way impact.

I look forward to when he's 29, Horford and Porzingis are gone, Holiday is 36 and over the hill. Then it's not just having four shooters who are plus defenders and Jaylen Brown on the court. In the highlight above, the defenders are **** their pants on any fake Tatum makes because everyone is a capable shooter.

Don't get me wrong, he's talented and I would love him if we drafted him instead of Fultz. But he has REALLY benefitted from everything falling together nicely into this juggernaut of a lineup.

With Brad Stevens (and Mike Zarren) running basketball operations, there is a chance that the Celtics talent will be replenished, and Tatum will still have capable teammates when he's 29. You never know.

[Negrodamus]

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I don't think he has the traits to be the very best player in the league, but he's no lower than 3 for me going forward and I'd take him over Luka at this point, which may or may not be controversial.

1 of 1 role malleability for a superstar and legit two-way impact.

I look forward to when he's 29, Horford and Porzingis are gone, Holiday is 36 and over the hill. Then it's not just having four shooters who are plus defenders and Jaylen Brown on the court. In the highlight above, the defenders are **** their pants on any fake Tatum makes because everyone is a capable shooter.

Don't get me wrong, he's talented and I would love him if we drafted him instead of Fultz. But he has REALLY benefitted from everything falling together nicely into this juggernaut of a lineup.

With Brad Stevens (and Mike Zarren) running basketball operations, there is a chance that the Celtics talent will be replenished, and Tatum will still have capable teammates when he's 29. You never know.

Yep, or they don’t hit on draft picks or buy low players and he has to do more than he usually does. Could go either way.

[Iverson Armband]

I refuse to penalize a guy because he has a stacked roster around him. I hate when people bring it up with regards to Jalen Hurts. You still have to perform.

[Stanford]

Tatum is basically that one Paul George season every year.