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2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10

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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#581 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 1, 2025 5:42 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Lakers fans want to trade for Giannis, unwilling to trade both Reaves AND Rui though……..at least we’re not that delusional :lol:


To be fair after seeing what their front office did in getting Luka, anything is possible if your a Laker :lol:


That’s actually a good point, the league probably already has Giannis to the Lakers in the works
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Post#582 » by batterybro42 » Thu May 1, 2025 5:49 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Lakers fans want to trade for Giannis, unwilling to trade both Reaves AND Rui though……..at least we’re not that delusional :lol:


To be fair after seeing what their front office did in getting Luka, anything is possible if your a Laker :lol:


That’s actually a good point, the league probably already has Giannis to the Lakers in the works


I will stop watching the NBA if the Lakers manage to trade something like Reeves and Rui for Giannis. They have no tradeable 1st round picks.

I do not think it is out of the question again to see LeBron ask for a trade or for Luka to moved again following that quick exit. Luka needs to actually be coached if he is ever going to be a championship player. He might be the worst NBA defender in the league, it does not help that his is visibly 40+ pounds overweight. He is just so gifted on offense that it makes it allowable to some. I don't think Dallas was in the wrong for wanting to trade him. It was just the return and the way they did it that is the problem.
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Post#583 » by Vertical Limit » Thu May 1, 2025 5:53 pm

Not sure why austin is untradeable.. austin reeves is trash.. hes a guy youd like to come off the bench but like the third option off the bench…

Regardless if Reeves is available or not which is irrelevant because he sucks… they could offer everyone in the roster minus Luka, all their picks and it still wouldnt be enough.

For them to get Giannis the only offer they have that the Bucks will say yes to is : Luka, 2 firsts, 2 pick swaps.

They have no other available options for Giannis. So that subject is closed unless rob is willing to part with Luka (meaning, luka does not sign the extension).
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Post#584 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 1, 2025 5:54 pm

Starting to be some rumblings of a Luka trade if he doesn’t go ahead and extend with the Lakers this summer, I’d be shocked.
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Post#585 » by batterybro42 » Thu May 1, 2025 6:00 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Starting to be some rumblings of a Luka trade if he doesn’t go ahead and extend with the Lakers this summer, I’d be shocked.


From watching the series I did not get the feeling that LeBron likes Luka. Kinda came away feeling that he is disgusted with him. Imagine being LeBron you are 40 years old, put in crazy work just to be able to play the game, only to see your co star who is in his mid 20s who is one of the most gifted sorcerers in league history just be fat, lazy, and nothing but a cry baby turnstile on defense. He is so out of shape he is having back spasms just trying to get up and down the floor. I have never seen a player who wines as much as he does, half the time they are on defense he is just talking to officials about what happened a position or two before on the other end.

I would take Luka here in Miami, simply because I know the way he plays the game would not be allowed here. This is the only place I can actually see him becoming what he possibly could be. But if he came here embraced none of it, stayed fat, and kept playing the way he does I would want to trade him too.

Somebody in his camp needs to have a serious conversation with Luka or his good will in this league will expire very quickly. It was tough to watch LeBron who I don't necessarily adore but have great respect for dealing with that at this stage of his career.
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Post#586 » by Flash4thewin » Thu May 1, 2025 6:01 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:Not sure why austin is untradeable.. austin reeves is trash.. hes a guy youd like to come off the bench but like the third option off the bench…

Regardless if Reeves is available or not which is irrelevant because he sucks… they could offer everyone in the roster minus Luka, all their picks and it still wouldnt be enough.

For them to get Giannis the only offer they have that the Bucks will say yes to is : Luka, 2 firsts, 2 pick swaps.

They have no other available options for Giannis. So that subject is closed unless rob is willing to part with Luka (meaning, luka does not sign the extension).


He’s not trash, he is basically the West Coast version of Herro but way better at getting free throws and taking over a game when a star goes down but worse at defense. Then again he is signed to a bargain price, i think he makes less than half of Herro salary.
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Post#587 » by Vertical Limit » Thu May 1, 2025 6:04 pm

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Vertical Limit wrote:Not sure why austin is untradeable.. austin reeves is trash.. hes a guy youd like to come off the bench but like the third option off the bench…

Regardless if Reeves is available or not which is irrelevant because he sucks… they could offer everyone in the roster minus Luka, all their picks and it still wouldnt be enough.

For them to get Giannis the only offer they have that the Bucks will say yes to is : Luka, 2 firsts, 2 pick swaps.

They have no other available options for Giannis. So that subject is closed unless rob is willing to part with Luka (meaning, luka does not sign the extension).


He’s not trash, he is basically the West Coast version of Herro but way better at getting free throws and taking over a game when a star goes down but worse at defense. Then again he is signed to a bargain price, i think he makes less than half of Herro salary.

Im no Herro fan, i want him gone today if possible, i think hes a sixth man at best in a championship roster… but Herro is Michael Jordan compared to Austin Reeves.. austin is such a limited player.. put him on a squad where he does not have lebron, anthony davis or luka.. put him in the wizards and you will quickly think how the heck is he in the league..
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Post#588 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Thu May 1, 2025 6:08 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Starting to be some rumblings of a Luka trade if he doesn’t go ahead and extend with the Lakers this summer, I’d be shocked.


From watching the series I did not get the feeling that LeBron likes Luka. Kinda came away feeling that he is disgusted with him. Imagine being LeBron you are 40 years old, put in crazy work just to be able to play the game, only to see your co star who is in his mid 20s who is one of the most gifted sorcerers in league history just be fat, lazy, and nothing but a cry baby turnstile on defense. He is so out of shape he is having back spasms just trying to get up and down the floor. I have never seen a player who wines as much as he does, half the time they are on defense he is just talking to officials about what happened a position or two before on the other end.

I would take Luka here in Miami, simply because I know the way he plays the game would not be allowed here. This is the only place I can actually see him becoming what he possibly could be. But if he came here embraced none of it, stayed fat, and kept playing the way he does I would want to trade him too.

Somebody in his camp needs to have a serious conversation with Luka or his good will in this league will expire very quickly. It was tough to watch LeBron who I don't necessarily adore but have great respect for dealing with that at this stage of his career.

If we're going to have unrealistic masturbatory trade fantasies, let it be about this, or Antman if the Wolves go down next round, not 37 year old KD, please (KD coming here isn't unrealistic but for nothing but a couple draft picks it is, and I'm not down with trading all our youth for him).

And yeah the body language was pretty bad, complete armchair psychiatrist take here so ignore if that bugs you but if I had to guess, Luka is boys with J.J. who is obviously LeBron's pick, and J.J. has been defending Luka because he's the younger guy and more likely to still be there for J.J.'s tenure, and LeBron is fed up with it, so that little love triangle isn't working out as hoped.
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Post#589 » by Vertical Limit » Thu May 1, 2025 6:08 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Starting to be some rumblings of a Luka trade if he doesn’t go ahead and extend with the Lakers this summer, I’d be shocked.


From watching the series I did not get the feeling that LeBron likes Luka. Kinda came away feeling that he is disgusted with him. Imagine being LeBron you are 40 years old, put in crazy work just to be able to play the game, only to see your co star who is in his mid 20s who is one of the most gifted sorcerers in league history just be fat, lazy, and nothing but a cry baby turnstile on defense. He is so out of shape he is having back spasms just trying to get up and down the floor. I have never seen a player who wines as much as he does, half the time they are on defense he is just talking to officials about what happened a position or two before on the other end.

I would take Luka here in Miami, simply because I know the way he plays the game would not be allowed here. This is the only place I can actually see him becoming what he possibly could be. But if he came here embraced none of it, stayed fat, and kept playing the way he does I would want to trade him too.

Somebody in his camp needs to have a serious conversation with Luka or his good will in this league will expire very quickly. It was tough to watch LeBron who I don't necessarily adore but have great respect for dealing with that at this stage of his career.

I hope luka takes his conditioning more serious this offseason… skip any fiba / overseas play and just work on his fitness.. or he will have a very short prime..

I saw that bs of leaving his team 4 vs 5 to complain over non calls yesterday.. about 5 times.. then hes running around like an old man marathon… dragging his feet to the court barely able to lift his knee up..
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#590 » by Lennyzinho » Thu May 1, 2025 6:09 pm

https://www.theringer.com/2025/04/30/nba/giannis-antetokounmpo-trade-rumors-milwaukee-bucks-offseason?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAafvb8u0dupweySbMvwiFs0ZIYfN5QB8FyOFO9CZWWSUdqH80uTvsm89XEbxNw_aem_SKtNBJY3oitFhK0RvFy3Mw

Top 7 spots for Giannis.
I think pistons hawks magic make little sense. And they aren't gonna trade him in their own division either with eliminates and interesting Indiana package.

Also, is a package of Herro Wiggins JJJ Ware and 3 frps not competitive? I'd be willing to offer that up for Giannis. Davion Burks Giannis Jovic Bam. Plus we'd have vets wanting to come here sign deals. And then once rozier and Duncan are off the books and we can sign other dudes, we'd have a nasty 3-4 window imo. But im dreaminnnnnnn'
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Post#591 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Thu May 1, 2025 6:11 pm

Lennyzinho wrote:https://www.theringer.com/2025/04/30/nba/giannis-antetokounmpo-trade-rumors-milwaukee-bucks-offseason?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAafvb8u0dupweySbMvwiFs0ZIYfN5QB8FyOFO9CZWWSUdqH80uTvsm89XEbxNw_aem_SKtNBJY3oitFhK0RvFy3Mw

Top 7 spots for Giannis.
I think pistons hawks magic make little sense. And they aren't gonna trade him in their own division either with eliminates and interesting Indiana package.

Also, is a package of Herro Wiggins JJJ Ware and 3 frps not competitive? I'd be willing to offer that up for Giannis. Davion Burks Giannis Jovic Bam. Plus we'd have vets wanting to come here sign deals. And then once rozier and Duncan are off the books and we can sign other dudes, we'd have a nasty 3-4 window imo. But im dreaminnnnnnn'

It's super competitive but damn the offense on that team would be ugly. At that point do you even want Duncan off the books? You'd be desperate for shooting.
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Post#592 » by Vertical Limit » Thu May 1, 2025 6:12 pm

Lennyzinho wrote:https://www.theringer.com/2025/04/30/nba/giannis-antetokounmpo-trade-rumors-milwaukee-bucks-offseason?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAafvb8u0dupweySbMvwiFs0ZIYfN5QB8FyOFO9CZWWSUdqH80uTvsm89XEbxNw_aem_SKtNBJY3oitFhK0RvFy3Mw

Top 7 spots for Giannis.
I think pistons hawks magic make little sense. And they aren't gonna trade him in their own division either with eliminates and interesting Indiana package.

Also, is a package of Herro Wiggins JJJ Ware and 3 frps not competitive? I'd be willing to offer that up for Giannis. Davion Burks Giannis Jovic Bam. Plus we'd have vets wanting to come here sign deals. And then once rozier and Duncan are off the books and we can sign other dudes, we'd have a nasty 3-4 window imo. But im dreaminnnnnnn'

If im the bucks it starts with Bam and 3 firsts. Anything less than that im hanging up.
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Post#593 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Thu May 1, 2025 6:13 pm

greg4012 wrote:Not much victory lapping Jimmy after last night's game. The concern with aging stars is always the reduction in frequency with which they can summon what makes them special. I think it's reasonable to expect that rate of reduction to ramp up over the next 2 seasons, making the 2027 season pretty tough sledding (which was always the point of conflict with the Jimmy talks).

I'm still rooting for GS to succeed and expect them to make it past Houston, at minimum.

Are there Jimmy fans running victory laps in here after GSW games? I haven't noticed to be honest. What I have seen a few times is people complaining that Wiggins isn't better, as if we were trading to upgrade. Wiggins was salary filler, I don't know who thought he was going to actually replace Jimmy.
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Post#595 » by Hoops3355 » Thu May 1, 2025 6:30 pm

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Hoops3355 wrote:20/20 hindsight but damn some awful decisions we're riding with.


Maybe 20/20 hindsight in terms of whether a fan likes the bad deals that have accumulated over the years such as re-signinf D-Rob, letting Strus walk for nothing, trading for Rozier, and trading for Wiggins. However fans aren’t making the decisions, they are just reacting to a decision that has already been made.

At the end of the day, Heat management is accountable for making decisions that while shown to be awful in hindsight, should have also been recognized as awful by Heat management before a deal was ever made. If management lacks that foresight, then it needs to be replaced.


I'm actually okay with most of these signings. At the time DRob looked awesome and we saw the other contracts that went out that summer. Rozier was weird because we missed on the fit. I'm curious on who was the driving force behind that trade because you know that there had to be a disagreement about the fit fire that person immediately.
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Post#596 » by spectrec130 » Thu May 1, 2025 6:44 pm

Daffy wrote:I feel like it's only myself, MWP and 3ammy actually sees the vision for KD. It's not hard to understand. KD provides our go to scorer. Shifts Herro and Bam into easier roles and we also ADD pieces to the team.

Why are fans acting like it's just KD and that's it. Mitchell and Ware should be improved another year in the system.

Gary Trent just want to the Bucks because of Dame last season. He didn't have the best year but he'd probably be our best bench scorer on this team. Point is role players follow stars. I'm sure a few would be willing to sign with us if KD lands here.


Mayhap it has to do with the fact that KD hasn't done absolutely NADA since GSW and people no longer have confidence that a 37 yr old leading your team to nowhere is such a great option.
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Post#597 » by spectrec130 » Thu May 1, 2025 6:46 pm

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Post#598 » by Shewasfly » Thu May 1, 2025 7:02 pm

Its true that we likely don't have enough for any big names that will be on the market besides KD. And we only have a chance at KD because of his age.

At the same time, KD is also unlikely if Pat and the FO stands pat once free agency starts, waiting on whatever happens with Giannis. We need to be realistic about the fact that we don't have enough for him and instead make moves to make the roster a viable one that KD would push for.

Even with KD/Herro/Bam as a trio, our depth leaves a lot to be desired. It's barely NBA level talent, let alone compete in the East level. The FO needs to shore that up. Keeping Davion and obviously not touching Ware is a start. It'd also be great to keep Jovic but I have a feeling he would be asked for in the KD trade along with Wiggins.

So how do you turn the rest--JJJ, Duncan, Rozier, Burks, Larsson and change it into a win-now type of bench? Is it even possible? Because again, if it's not, it calls into question the idea of not just starting the rebuild immediately and moving on from Bam and Herro for picks.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#599 » by Lennyzinho » Thu May 1, 2025 7:08 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
Lennyzinho wrote:https://www.theringer.com/2025/04/30/nba/giannis-antetokounmpo-trade-rumors-milwaukee-bucks-offseason?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAafvb8u0dupweySbMvwiFs0ZIYfN5QB8FyOFO9CZWWSUdqH80uTvsm89XEbxNw_aem_SKtNBJY3oitFhK0RvFy3Mw

Top 7 spots for Giannis.
I think pistons hawks magic make little sense. And they aren't gonna trade him in their own division either with eliminates and interesting Indiana package.

Also, is a package of Herro Wiggins JJJ Ware and 3 frps not competitive? I'd be willing to offer that up for Giannis. Davion Burks Giannis Jovic Bam. Plus we'd have vets wanting to come here sign deals. And then once rozier and Duncan are off the books and we can sign other dudes, we'd have a nasty 3-4 window imo. But im dreaminnnnnnn'

It's super competitive but damn the offense on that team would be ugly. At that point do you even want Duncan off the books? You'd be desperate for shooting.


I mean if you drill down...
Davion shot 44% from 3 for us. 40% on the year.
Burks shot 42.5% from 3 for us. Has shot over 40% every year since 2020.
Jovic shot 37% from 3 and 40% the year before.
Bam shot 36% from 3 but we all know it's his first season with high volume and after ASB he shot well over 40%.

You don't want Giannis shooting 3s at all, but that's a very good supporting cast imo. Duncan off the bench.
Maybe Chris Paul comes here to be backup point guard to help with distributing and play making. We'd still have Pelle and haysmith who are good 3&D guys to play with giannis and bam and come off the bench.

It's not a perfect team. But like I said. If we got giannis and then rozier and Duncan came off the books in 2026 we'd have so much flexibility to sign some good depth players and have a really nice window to compete for titles. Giannis is a monster. I'd trade just about anything for him other than bam.
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