Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - 2025 Off-season

German Athens · Post #861 » by **German Athens** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:19 pm

yb90 wrote:Could an injured Lillard for Ayton/Grant trade make sense for the Bucks and Blazers? Would Horst take a chance on another combo forward with a worse contract than Kuzma on the hopes that he has a bounce back season? Is the salary relief enough for the Blazers to bring back Lillard?

You’re only allowed to think of blazers trades, you can’t post them anymore.

Bernman · Post #862 » by **Bernman** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:19 pm

This guy has a decent track record.

Read on Twitter

Would you rather have Giannis & Doc OR Flagg, prospects, & just about any other coach? Go get the pitchforks...

DingleJerry · Post #863 » by **DingleJerry** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:27 pm

Jeez, you'd think at this point Doc would ok with being a figurehead type where someone else handles the Xs and Os like a D and O coordinator. I think Kidd actually gave guys those titles when he was HC? Doc be the leader/media/PR type guy. But then yesterday there was someone saying he wouldn't take the input of the pile of coaches they brought in. Get a technical guy on each side and let them do their job, be the media guy while they do the real basketball work

I don't want it, but that's kind of the best case if he's back and he really should be open to it

Frank Nova · Post #864 » by **Frank Nova** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:27 pm

The thought of Doc Rivers for another season makes me physically ill. How can management possibly be so incredibly stupid? I gotta do myself a favor and check out of Bucks basketball for the time being. I just can’t right now. Go Pack Go! That’s all I got… WTF :banghead:

Post #865 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:28 pm

Replacing Doc with Ham would be zero improvement.

Post #866 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:30 pm

DingleJerry wrote:Jeez, you'd think at this point Doc would ok with being a figurehead type where someone else handles the Xs and Os like a D and O coordinator. I think Kidd actually gave guys those titles when he was HC? Doc be the leader/media/PR type guy. But then yesterday there was someone saying he wouldn't take the input of the pile of coaches they brought in. Get a technical guy on each side and let them do their job, be the media guy while they do the real basketball work

He hired a DC, Greg Buckner, who was given control over the defense. It didn't work out, combination of coaching and personnel. On offense I have no idea WTF was going on. But all the team really needed was putting the right players on the court. It took 86 games to figure it out. You're right, you can bring in good assistants but if you have a dumb ass HC it doesn't matter.

JayMKE · Post #867 » by **JayMKE** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:41 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Doc is 63, for the love of God make him POBO or "senior advisor" or whatever figurehead title so he gets his money without being fired. He can talk about the want/need to spend more time with his family or any other b.s. they want to spin and he can hit the links. PLEASE.

Doc should share color duty with Marques, now that would be a move I could get behind replacing Steve Novak

Matches Malone · Post #868 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:45 pm

Bernman wrote:This guy has a decent track record.

Read on Twitter

Would you rather have Giannis & Doc OR Flagg, prospects, & just about any other coach? Go get the pitchforks...

German Athens · Post #869 » by **German Athens** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:51 pm

If Doc isn’t canned, was Bud fired and on the hot seat multiple times, because he’s just not as affable?

Post #870 » by **Prez** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:57 pm

Doc is a total **** moron as a coach and was likely one of the biggest drivers of the Kuzma trade. The dude genuinely shouldn’t be allowed in Milwaukee at all let alone employed by the Bucks.

Bucksmaniac · Post #871 » by **Bucksmaniac** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:57 pm

German Athens wrote:If Doc isn’t canned, was Bud fired and on the hot seat multiple times, because he’s just not as affable?

Doc has MU connections for one, that might make it harder to can him, and he’s a good schmoozer. That to me seems to be the only ways he could stay in his job that make sense from the standpoint of the owners.

Post #872 » by **Prez** » Thu May 1, 2025 9:59 pm

Hire Chris Quinn.

Bernman · Post #873 » by **Bernman** » Thu May 1, 2025 10:01 pm

There's a lot less chance to rehab Kuz while Doc's here because his instruction to him was "we gotta get you involved". Not try to be our Aaron Gordon, who had a similar tool-set, but was even more inefficient prior to joining a contender.

Getting into shape unlike last offseason would help. But part of the problem was the bad habits Doc seemed to reinforce even. He fancies himself as some kind of individual player whisperer instead of team-builder.

DingleJerry · Post #874 » by **DingleJerry** » Thu May 1, 2025 10:02 pm

JayMKE wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Doc is 63, for the love of God make him POBO or "senior advisor" or whatever figurehead title so he gets his money without being fired. He can talk about the want/need to spend more time with his family or any other b.s. they want to spin and he can hit the links. PLEASE.

Doc should share color duty with Marques, now that would be a move I could get behind replacing Steve Novak

I throw most games on mute in the background so don't care that much, and in general am not an announcer basher. Basically just don't be obnoxious is all that I ask. Like I don't have the Novak hate most do, I just don't care/notice. I never really had an opinion on her before these playoffs, but they made me really think Lisa really isn't very good, was grating at times. It was bad enough that I went to the national broadcast for at least one game just to have people bland enough that I don't even notice them

SupremeHustle · Post #875 » by **SupremeHustle** » Thu May 1, 2025 10:03 pm

NUMBERICA wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
aboveAverage wrote:We really had terrible luck with the Dame injury. We could’ve gotten some decent assets for him this offseason and used this as something we could sell to Giannis. That would’ve really helped us in a retool.

Hopefully Giannis is willing to wait one more year until we can trade Dame next offseason.

Dame might be traded at the deadline if he can come back in December and show a little something. The return won't be great, though. He was already slowing down. No shade, just age.

That said, I'd be pleasantly surprised if we see him back this calendar year.

Sorry, what? Dame is going to miss all of next year. You can bet your mortgage on that.

I'll bet you my mortgage payment against yours that he comes back next year. I'm serious.

Note: My mortgage payment is zero dollars.

rilamann · Post #876 » by **rilamann** » Thu May 1, 2025 10:06 pm

Like I have been saying, it would be a massive curve ball to me if Doc isn't our coach next season.

If the Bucks were planning on firing Doc anytime soon, they would have already done it.

chonestown · Post #877 » by **chonestown** » Thu May 1, 2025 10:10 pm

rilamann wrote:Like I have been saying, it would be a massive curve ball to me if Doc isn't our coach next season.

If the Bucks were planning on firing Doc anytime soon, they would have already done it.

Wait YOU said it?1/?1/adafka/f/?

Credit where doo.

Baddy Chuck · Post #878 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu May 1, 2025 10:13 pm

tedbrogen wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
German Athens wrote:
I think you can shift that timeline one year forward. We won’t have a pick in 27, but we will in 26.

If we find a way to get some expiring deals, and recoup the young group we just started around Giannis, I think you ride that group for one season, and then all options are on the table next off-season.

Not sure I'd really move up the timeline but hitting that pick (with immediate results) would help a lot. Still think 2027 when you could add impact guys in free agency is the play. Suppose the expirings and picks could land those as well, maybe.

Why are we banking on the Bucks signing free agents? When have they ever signed an impactful big money free agent?

When was the last time we had money to spend with one of the best players of this generation on our team? A guy players have been clamoring to play with ever since he took off? We've seen a bunch of guys take paycuts to come here or stay, and that's with extremely limited payment options. Before Giannis was Giannis we got one of the premier free agents (granted it was Greg Monroe) to choose Milwaukee over teams like New York and Boston and that was the last time we had anything to spend. Since becoming the 2x MVP the absolute most we've had to offer around the league was the tax payer MLE, and one of those two times landed us a guy like Bobby Portis who came in on a cheap deal and stayed on a cheap deal, basically because of Giannis. Consider me optimistic that offering guys a boat load of money to play with Giannis would have some pull.

Iheartfootball · Post #879 » by **Iheartfootball** » Thu May 1, 2025 10:26 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
Bernman wrote:This guy has a decent track record.

Read on Twitter

Would you rather have Giannis & Doc OR Flagg, prospects, & just about any other coach? Go get the pitchforks...

If this is true, then I'd infer Horst has little latitude and the plan will be short-term in vision. Continued disconnect between coaching and the front office. Sucks, because I love watching Giannis play but this team will be wholly uninspiring for me next year (or years). Bummer.

Whole franchise feels stale and fragmented. Gross.

Iheartfootball · Post #880 » by **Iheartfootball** » Thu May 1, 2025 10:27 pm

rilamann wrote:Like I have been saying, it would be a massive curve ball to me if Doc isn't our coach next season.

If the Bucks were planning on firing Doc anytime soon, they would have already done it.

You're constant desire for pats on the back is exhausting. It must be lonely always being right.