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Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET

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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#241 » by breezypeezy » Fri May 2, 2025 2:59 am

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I see the loss brought the clowns out…you got your wish. You can head back over to the Knicks board


Have you seen me posting on the Knicks board?


I thought your irrational and low IQ takes were because you were actually a Knicks fan, are you not?

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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#242 » by VicVinegar » Fri May 2, 2025 3:03 am

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He's a good player but very overrated. He's not an elite player and is a #2 on a true title contending team. He needs to become a 2 guard because he isn't a point guard or a player that should have the ball in his hands in the big moments.


Which teams in the league are "true title contending teams" in your opinion? (currently, without Cade)

You swap Cade for Brunson and We easy advance pass NY


You're right, but that should be the case. Brunson played lights out. He's a hell of a player. He's been in that moment before. He is five years older than Cade and came into the series with 49 games of playoff experience to Cade's zero.

The point that I'm trying to make is that the argument of whether Cade is a 1 or a 2 is stupid. The real issue is that Cade is all we have. We don't have two options. Knicks have KAT and Brunson (Hell Bridges and OG would probably be our 2nd and 3rd best starters). Thunder have Shai, Holmgren, and Williams. Cavs have Mobley, Mitchell, and Garland. Celtics have Tatum and Brown. You're saying we win if we swap Cade for Brunson, which makes it sound like a Cade problem. But we also win if we swap Duren for KAT, or THJ for Bridges for that matter.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#243 » by the_l_train » Fri May 2, 2025 3:05 am

Not fouling Mitchell Robinson when we had the chance was the nail in the coffin. We roll the dice and Mikal ties the game.

Can’t even blame JB for that. Players need to use their brain, look at the situation and go “OH LOOK, THERES MITCHELL ROBINSON (THE NBAs ALL TIME WORST FREE THROW SHOOTER….)”

We will come back stronger, but we need all these young dudes to take it up a notch.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#244 » by tradez401 » Fri May 2, 2025 3:05 am

VicVinegar wrote:Hell of a year, boys. Very proud of this team. Only complaint on the series is going 0-3 at home. Other than that, hell of a year and hell of a series. We knew this team was young and inexperienced and it showed. It's something that only time will fix. We learn from it and improve next year.


also impressive we was without ivey/stew.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#245 » by Rip32 » Fri May 2, 2025 3:13 am

tradez401 wrote:
VicVinegar wrote:Hell of a year, boys. Very proud of this team. Only complaint on the series is going 0-3 at home. Other than that, hell of a year and hell of a series. We knew this team was young and inexperienced and it showed. It's something that only time will fix. We learn from it and improve next year.


also impressive we was without ivey/stew.

Ivey is a scorer. He's not a defender nor shooter. He'll get most of THJ minutes but is that really an upgrade? F three point shooters, get me zion. We need someone who can get easy buckets
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#246 » by VicVinegar » Fri May 2, 2025 3:14 am

the_l_train wrote:Not fouling Mitchell Robinson when we had the chance was the nail in the coffin. We roll the dice and Mikal ties the game.

Can’t even blame JB for that. Players need to use their brain, look at the situation and go “OH LOOK, THERES MITCHELL ROBINSON (THE NBAs ALL TIME WORST FREE THROW SHOOTER….)”

We will come back stronger, but we need all these young dudes to take it up a notch.


Yeah he LITERALLY is like a sub 37% career FT shooter in the playoffs lol.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#247 » by DetroitSho » Fri May 2, 2025 3:16 am

the_l_train wrote:Not fouling Mitchell Robinson when we had the chance was the nail in the coffin. We roll the dice and Mikal ties the game.

Can’t even blame JB for that. Players need to use their brain, look at the situation and go “OH LOOK, THERES MITCHELL ROBINSON (THE NBAs ALL TIME WORST FREE THROW SHOOTER….)”

We will come back stronger, but we need all these young dudes to take it up a notch.
In what situation are you referring to?

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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#248 » by nastassiav » Fri May 2, 2025 3:24 am

Tim hardaway gotta go. Should never play more than 15 mph. Not starter material. Need Ivey back
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#249 » by Neptune » Fri May 2, 2025 3:25 am

Good season! We showed plenty of growth this season and I'm damn proud of this team. With a health Ivey, Stewart and hopefully a good free agency signing, I think we'll be top 4 in the East next season.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#250 » by Warspite » Fri May 2, 2025 3:26 am

Rip32 wrote:
VicVinegar wrote:
Homelander87 wrote:
He's a good player but very overrated. He's not an elite player and is a #2 on a true title contending team. He needs to become a 2 guard because he isn't a point guard or a player that should have the ball in his hands in the big moments.


Which teams in the league are "true title contending teams" in your opinion? (currently, without Cade)

You swap Cade for Brunson and We easy advance pass NY


Swap Hardaway or Beasly for Bridges and the Pistons sweep.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#251 » by the_l_train » Fri May 2, 2025 3:30 am

DetroitSho wrote:
the_l_train wrote:Not fouling Mitchell Robinson when we had the chance was the nail in the coffin. We roll the dice and Mikal ties the game.

Can’t even blame JB for that. Players need to use their brain, look at the situation and go “OH LOOK, THERES MITCHELL ROBINSON (THE NBAs ALL TIME WORST FREE THROW SHOOTER….)”

We will come back stronger, but we need all these young dudes to take it up a notch.
In what situation are you referring to?

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49 seconds left…After KAT fouled out, Knicks had Robinson in on the play where Mikal tied it up. We had plenty a time to foul him. Tobias should’ve done it since Duren was in foul trouble.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#252 » by Homelander87 » Fri May 2, 2025 3:34 am

Rip32 wrote:
tradez401 wrote:
VicVinegar wrote:Hell of a year, boys. Very proud of this team. Only complaint on the series is going 0-3 at home. Other than that, hell of a year and hell of a series. We knew this team was young and inexperienced and it showed. It's something that only time will fix. We learn from it and improve next year.


also impressive we was without ivey/stew.

Ivey is a scorer. He's not a defender nor shooter. He'll get most of THJ minutes but is that really an upgrade? F three point shooters, get me zion. We need someone who can get easy buckets


Ivey needs to play the 1 for the sole fact he's explosive, has an elite first step, and can create shots that aren't there. Cade needs to greatly improve his outside shooting and become a 2, maybe he can be a Richard Hamilton type player but he definitely isn't a one. So yes Ivey would have made a big difference
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#253 » by SuperBad » Fri May 2, 2025 3:37 am

They had there full team, we were missing Stew and Ivey, with all the expected internal growth, we could probably run this group of vets back on two year deals, and if starts to get old early we got short contracts, picks, and good young players to toss around to get the right piece needed. Trade Tech for a couple extra Washington 2nd rd picks this summer to try to develop some late rotation guys for the future as a side hustle, and use his salary to keep Schroeder, Reed, and Beasley. I think that’s all I do this summer unless someone comes to me selling low.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#254 » by JD43320 » Fri May 2, 2025 3:39 am

Rip32 wrote:
tradez401 wrote:
VicVinegar wrote:Hell of a year, boys. Very proud of this team. Only complaint on the series is going 0-3 at home. Other than that, hell of a year and hell of a series. We knew this team was young and inexperienced and it showed. It's something that only time will fix. We learn from it and improve next year.


also impressive we was without ivey/stew.

Ivey is a scorer. He's not a defender nor shooter. He'll get most of THJ minutes but is that really an upgrade? F three point shooters, get me zion. We need someone who can get easy buckets


Ivey was shooting over 40% from 3 before his injury. Hardaway shot 36% in thee regular season and 32% in the post season. Yeah he's an upgrade over THJ especially when you factor in his upside.

Zion? He is almost never available. In 6 years the guy has missed like 60% of the games. If we can get him for next to nothing maybe he would be worth a shot but even then I don't like the idea.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#255 » by catari11 » Fri May 2, 2025 3:50 am

Warspite wrote:
Rip32 wrote:
VicVinegar wrote:
Which teams in the league are "true title contending teams" in your opinion? (currently, without Cade)

You swap Cade for Brunson and We easy advance pass NY


Swap Hardaway or Beasly for Bridges and the Pistons sweep.


Have you completely lost it? NY gave up 4 first round picks for Bridges and they won't even make it past the second round. they're screwed. they scarcely beat a Pistons' team missing two key players. Bridges had two good games --- that's it. Pistons need to improve their roster but allocating 4 first round picks for a guy like Bridges is down right insane.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#256 » by bstein14 » Fri May 2, 2025 4:13 am

nastassiav wrote:Tim hardaway gotta go. Should never play more than 15 mph. Not starter material. Need Ivey back



I'd be happy to bring back Tim on the cheap as the 9th or 10th guy in the rotation but I think he's the guy we most clearly need to upgrade in the starting lineup. I think its pretty much a given that if he comes back he won't be a starter next year he's more likely going to be battling with Holland, Font, and Sasser for end of bench minutes. It actually probably happens simply when Ivey comes in healthy.

C: Duren
F:Harris
F:Ausar
G:Ivey
G:Cade

I'm 99% sure that will be our starting lineup next season.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#257 » by VicVinegar » Fri May 2, 2025 4:53 am

bstein14 wrote:
nastassiav wrote:Tim hardaway gotta go. Should never play more than 15 mph. Not starter material. Need Ivey back



I'd be happy to bring back Tim on the cheap as the 9th or 10th guy in the rotation but I think he's the guy we most clearly need to upgrade in the starting lineup. I think its pretty much a given that if he comes back he won't be a starter next year he's more likely going to be battling with Holland, Font, and Sasser for end of bench minutes. It actually probably happens simply when Ivey comes in healthy.

C: Duren
F:Harris
F:Ausar
G:Ivey
G:Cade

I'm 99% sure that will be our starting lineup next season.


I have mixed feelings on THJ. I agree, he could be a nice spark off the bench guy. However, I am worried about the possibility of him being a crutch. He really shouldn't be taking minutes away from guys. It's the same reason Killian had to go. Could Killian have been an okay bench guy? Maybe. But it was Ivey's turn to shine and Killian being here compromised that. Do we trust that they wouldn't force THJ into a starter role again? Did he play a SINGLE game off the bench this year? He did not. 77 games, 77 starts. Bottom line is he can't be a starter. He's way too one dimensional. All he does is take threes and take charges. That is it. If management makes it very clear to him that he would be a 10 min a game guy, I would be open to it. Otherwise, no thanks.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#258 » by tmorgan » Fri May 2, 2025 5:21 am

Hardaway needs to go.

I agree with that very likely starting lineup above, and we need to get Holland minutes to develop. If we keep Schroder and Beasley, there’s literally no minutes for THJ. Zero. There really aren’t any for Sasser, either.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#259 » by Moses ShamMoses » Fri May 2, 2025 10:44 am

I rewatched the last 3 minutes of the game this morning, and honestly Cade wasn't good enough. Several missed point blank shots driving to the rim, that bad inbounds pass to Duren, passing up the buzzer beater. Hopefully he's better in late game situations next time were in the playoffs.
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Re: Game 6 - Pistons-Knicks - 7:30pm ET 

Post#260 » by ducler » Fri May 2, 2025 10:47 am

Cade wasn't very good all game long. We really need another playmaker.
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