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Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin

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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1161 » by JayMKE » Fri May 2, 2025 9:23 am

Trading AJJ is so **** infuriating
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1162 » by Illawarra_Buck » Fri May 2, 2025 10:11 am

I guess the mind boggling part is that if the game is to re-tool around Giannis, you want some tangible data that suggests the players you're getting will become efficient due to Giannis' gravity.

The best version of Kuz in Washington was as a high volume, low efficiency chucker. I dont think there were stats that suggested he was a knock down shooter on open looks or anything.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1163 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri May 2, 2025 10:21 am

tester551 wrote:
ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:Kuzma always was a losing empty stats player, still can't believe we dealt positive assets for him.

Middleton was not a positive asset


Maybe not, but he was a positive player, unlike Kuzma. A pick swap has value, and AJJ had some, though limited, value. Kuzma is a massive negative who's owed more money than Middleton.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1164 » by JayMKE » Fri May 2, 2025 2:36 pm

“At least he’s playing” doesn’t apply when the guy has negative BBIQ & is super inefficient. Kuzma is a negative and to get rid of him we’d have to give up assets, the fact we were the ones giving up assets for him is insane.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1165 » by Bernman » Fri May 2, 2025 3:26 pm

Illawarra_Buck wrote:I guess the mind boggling part is that if the game is to re-tool around Giannis, you want some tangible data that suggests the players you're getting will become efficient due to Giannis' gravity.

The best version of Kuz in Washington was as a high volume, low efficiency chucker. I dont think there were stats that suggested he was a knock down shooter on open looks or anything.


40% & 39% from the corners the last 2 seasons. That's solid. Here that's what he should be doing. But he couldn't, on account he shot 30%.

Then he went from being a good finisher in the paint, to a bad one. 59-60 to 54.6.

So if he dialed back his usage, which he should have done next to Giannis & Dame, there was a clear way you could have used him in the past. But his shot-making cratered this season. And Doc nor he would mitigate that thru a more minimalist strategy.

His rebounding % also was the worst since his 2nd season, when it should have went up next to Brook. His ast % was the worst since he was in LA, which might be fine, but somehow he also had the highest TO% of his career.

It's hard to measure his d in DC given they were tanking. But in LA his d-ratings were good every season. He started off well here, then plummeted. He went from a player people had mixed opinions on, to someone everyone could agree sucked, cuz he objectively did.

Hope for a bounceback to salvage something here. That's just not sunk-cost fallacy. Rather it's not selling low & having perspective. Regardless it was a bad trade/idea to offload a guy we both liked for the future, and another for the present, for a guy who'd been badly struggling.

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