Run it Back or Upgrade?

[Laimbeer]

Running it back doesn't seem like a completely fair way to describe that option. This is a young teen and it's not unreasonable to think they will improve next year. Getting Ivey back makes things more interesting. I also wonder if we wouldn't be looking at a win over the Knicks in this series had Stew been available.

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[ComboGuardCity]

I think signing Naz Reid is in the cards. He can play the 4 and is very switchable. He also makes Duren expendable if there is an upgrade somewhere else to be had

[GreekAlex]

I think signing Naz Reid is in the cards. He can play the 4 and is very switchable. He also makes Duren expendable if there is an upgrade somewhere else to be had

Naz Reid has a Player Option for $14M

How do we pay him $20M+ w/o cap space?

[ComboGuardCity]

I think signing Naz Reid is in the cards. He can play the 4 and is very switchable. He also makes Duren expendable if there is an upgrade somewhere else to be had

Naz Reid has a Player Option for $14M

How do we pay him $20M+ w/o cap space?

If we only intend to bring back Malik, I’m pretty sure we can pay him the MLE and give Reid 20-25million

[GreekAlex]

I think signing Naz Reid is in the cards. He can play the 4 and is very switchable. He also makes Duren expendable if there is an upgrade somewhere else to be had

Naz Reid has a Player Option for $14M

How do we pay him $20M+ w/o cap space?

If we only intend to bring back Malik, I’m pretty sure we can pay him the MLE and give Reid 20-25million

That would be amazing.

Just have to figure out how to replace Schröder since we’ll be out of money.

[ducler]

I'm quite happy to have Langdon at the head of this offseason, someone we can trust in.

Personnally, I would try to add a 2nd playmaker/scorer who is not a liability on defense.

Sabonis, Vucevic, Booker, LaVine, Trae, Herro, Reaves... Neither is the answer IMO and I'd rather keep Harris and our assets if it's to bring someone like that.

I'd try to improve the roster while keeping Cade, Ivey, Ausar and Duren. If we can bring back our FAs Beasley and Schroder at a reasonable price, let's go.

I envision this core:
Duren
NEW
Ausar
Ivey/Beasley
Cade/Schroder

In fact, the guy we really need is Sheed. Unfortunately he's too old

[Moses ShamMoses]

I think either option is possible, run it back, or big upgrade. I want Trajan to look for the big swing and if something comes up that improves the team going forward for the next few years, I'm good with that. I also don't think we force the issue and trade for a guy that has a risky outcome (ex. Zion's health) or a guy nearing the end of his career (KD). We need Trajan to continue to make smart choices, but that could look different depending on what and who becomes available.

Guys I'd try and build around are probably Cade, Ausar, Stewart, and see what a combination of other players and draft picks could bring back. I agree with most that Cade needs his trusty side-kick badly. Is that Ivey? That'd be great, but maybe its a more experienced player.

[Kalamazoo317]

If I were you, start looking at consolidating the kids and building around Cade

It sounds good but for who and at what cost?

No offense to you as a Knicks fan, but the Bridges trade looks rough. I don’t want that path.

I think your ceiling is limited and the assets are gone.

Agreed. Being paper thin and over leveraging ourselves to star hunt isn't the Detroit Pistons way, imo. I think the Knicks are a nice star studded second round playoff team (expecting them to lose to the Celtics in 5 or so), but if we want to build a contender instead, their path isn't the one to take.

[Kalamazoo317]

Beasley had an out of this world anomaly of a season. We cannot rely on him to repeat what he did in the regular season next year. Hopefully our young guys take another leap but I think we also need to go out and get more explosive talent.

I agree. I think this was a clear outlier season from him.

I absolutely do NOT want Jaren Jackson Jr. He has been ATROCIOUS every time he's been in the playoffs, cant rebound to save his life and is up for a super max extension assuming he makes all nba.

We already foul too much on defense. We don't need to add someone who does that as his specialty!

[Kalamazoo317]

Maaaaan, we better not trade Holland for whatever upgrade we’re looking for. I know he wasn’t ready for these playoffs, and he was a part-timer as a rookie, but…

Do you realize how rare it is for a 19-year-old rookie to have a positive DBPM? He was a good defender without any relevant experience right off the bat. That’s Detroit basketball. And his offensive potential as a spot-up shooter isn’t anywhere near as big of a longshot as Ausar. And he’s a good finisher.

I don't think Langdon trades away his first lottery pick after a season. That's not how GMs tend to operate.

[Kalamazoo317]

I think signing Naz Reid is in the cards. He can play the 4 and is very switchable. He also makes Duren expendable if there is an upgrade somewhere else to be had

Naz Reid has a Player Option for $14M

How do we pay him $20M+ w/o cap space?

I'd be surprised if he doesn't pick that up. He seems happy in Minnesota.

[Rip32]

I think signing Naz Reid is in the cards. He can play the 4 and is very switchable. He also makes Duren expendable if there is an upgrade somewhere else to be had

Naz is nowhere near Duren in terms of rebounding.

[Laimbeer]

We've got four young players - Duren, Holland, Thompson, and Ivey - with genuine potential but a large gap between their floor and ceiling. Let that flesh out another year before moving them for win now pieces that don't make us serious contenders.

I'm okay with Schroder or Beasley on a small deal, but playing Sasser makes more sense than another year of stop gaps. And if you sign both that backcourt is really crowded.

[theBigLip]

I think there is a middle option to upgrade without tearing apart our core.

We should not go “star shopping”. Looking at what Milwaukee (Dame) and Phoenix (KD, Beal) and Lakers (Westbrook) did to get another star, they traded away great role players and/or picks, and they all got worse.

I’d rather be a little patient. We can always use more shooting, so see what we can get in a likely salary dump summer for the league. But let all our young guys get another year of experience, keep the defensive mindset, and maybe swap out a vet or two. That’s my offseason plan.

[ducler]

We've got four young players - Duren, Holland, Thompson, and Ivey - with genuine potential but a large gap between their floor and ceiling. Let that flesh out another year before moving them for win now pieces that don't make us serious contenders.

I'm okay with Schroder or Beasley on a small deal, but playing Sasser makes more sense than another year of stop gaps. And if you sign both that backcourt is really crowded.

The problem for Sasser is that he doesn't help fixing team needs, as it's currently built:
1. Creation: you rather have Schröder than Sasser
2. Catch-and-shoot: you rather have Beasley than Sasser

And with Ivey coming back into the rotation, Sasser is largely expandable.

[Billl]

The last thing we should do is go all in on some aging "star". We also shouldn't overpay any of the vets. We still need to add a #2 for cade, but this is not a desperation situation. We've got some nice young pieces that are developing pretty quickly. We will likely eventually need some sort of consolidation trade, but we don't have to rush it.

[Cowology]

Obviously we explore all our options but I think running it back is the most likely scenario. If all we do is bring back the same core this is a 50+ win team that should be battling for the 3-4 seed.

Another year of experience should benefit Ron, Ausar, Ivey & Duren. Stew remains a solid contributor. Harris is back in his role and we probably still have THj in a diminished role. I still think the Schroder thing will be tricky. Maybe it depends on the market for him and he seems to enjoy being here, but with Ivey back there is definitely more of a minutes crunch and I think Beasley is a higher priority.

I have zero interest in chasing Booker, Zion or most other players. I don't think JJJ is realistic and wouldn't gut my team for him anyway.

Bam is the one guy I'd give up just about anything outside of Cade for, but if you can pair those 2 with either of our young wings and I think you have a very solid foundation for the next 5-10 yrs. Outside of that, I think we just sort of stay the course for now, but always with an ear to the ground.

[Kalamazoo317]

I think this same core could easily be low 40s in wins, depending on injury luck and how the East develops around us. I think 50s would be our ceiling.

[joedumars1]

I just hope to see were trying to make big moves, it’s ok if we don’t, I do think the culture they have is great. I think Beasley is part of it. He can still be a badass 3pt shooter next year. Schroeder be nice too, cause he seems like a nice culture guy. Glad I’m not the gm.

[mike06181]

I say run it back. Sign the vets but only for 2 yr contracts. Something that can be moved after a season. Lets see what they do with ivey and stew healthy. We win that series if they were available.