Official 2025 Offseason Thread

[RichCollab]

Peyton Pritchard also called the Magic's defense the best that they've faced. I assumed that was in the playoffs. Black guarded Pritchard a lot in the series.

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Let’s end this absurd debate. Both are movable. AB has a better return.

I like AB but I’m trading him for a better shooter/ playmaker if it’s on the table.

We could trade Franz for Booker. He's a better shooter and then trade Moe for Cam Johnson.

Suggs
Booker
Cam
Paolo
Wendell

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I wouldn’t. Good luck with that.

[T-Cat]

Let’s end this absurd debate. Both are movable. AB has a better return.

I like AB but I’m trading him for a better shooter/ playmaker if it’s on the table.

We could trade Franz for Booker. He's a better shooter and then trade Moe for Cam Johnson.

Suggs
Booker
Cam
Paolo
Wendell

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I wouldn’t. Good luck with that.

The only way I would trade Franz is if we get a younger talent in the draft and possibly get below the cap again!

[three3d]

Advanced stats show Franz at 28 points 6 boards and 5 assist on 31% usage TS% 55.8

Deni Avdija 22 points 9 rebounds and 5 assist on only 24% usage with a TS% 60.5

Franz will make $38M and $41M the next two seasons.

Avdija will make $14M and $13M the next two seasons.

Thats the type of player you think of trading Franz for, the true stats suggest he’s at least scoring wise every bit of Franz BUT he’s also shooting 36.5% from the 3 point line. You do all you can to get Advija and Simons .

[eyriq]

Advanced stats show Franz at 28 points 6 boards and 5 assist on 31% usage TS% 55.8

Deni Avdija 22 points 9 rebounds and 5 assist on only 24% usage with a TS% 60.5

Franz will make $38M and $41M the next two seasons.

Avdija will make $14M and $13M the next two seasons.

Thats the type of player you think of trading Franz for, the true stats suggest he’s at least scoring wise every bit of Franz BUT he’s also shooting 36.5% from the 3 point line. You do all you can to get Advija and Simons .

That's all you brother

[FFBlitzace]

I think a guy like Malik Beasley could help. Very high level outside shooter that doesn't do much outside of shooting and scoring, but he doesn't turn the ball over either. He'd be like an idealized version of Cole.

He has probably earned a pretty big contract though. I'd imagine he wants more than the MLE somewhere.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Peyton Pritchard also called the Magic's defense the best that they've faced. I assumed that was in the playoffs. Black guarded Pritchard a lot in the series.

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Let’s end this absurd debate. Both are movable. AB has a better return.

I like AB but I’m trading him for a better shooter/ playmaker if it’s on the table.

We could trade Franz for Booker. He's a better shooter and then trade Moe for Cam Johnson.

Suggs
Booker
Cam
Paolo
Wendell

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I mean this in the most respectful way, but how long is it going to take or exactly what needs to happen for people to comprehend that Suggs is not viable longterm solution at PG?

He is often compared to Derrick White, but in actuality is more in the mold of Marcus Smart. Plays erratic, not a true PG and eventually his style of play will be a detriment to the team (if it isn’t already). I love Suggs and agree that he’s the pulse of the team, but we shouldn’t be relying on him as our PGOTF even more now with his injury (that by all reports IS going to be a lingering longterm concern).

[Magic_Johnny12]

Advanced stats show Franz at 28 points 6 boards and 5 assist on 31% usage TS% 55.8

Deni Avdija 22 points 9 rebounds and 5 assist on only 24% usage with a TS% 60.5

Franz will make $38M and $41M the next two seasons.

Avdija will make $14M and $13M the next two seasons.

Thats the type of player you think of trading Franz for, the true stats suggest he’s at least scoring wise every bit of Franz BUT he’s also shooting 36.5% from the 3 point line. You do all you can to get Advija and Simons .

If only basketball was so black and white.

You’re completely overlooking team construction, role, usage, coaching style. You simply can’t just box watch and think you figured it out.

[pepe1991]

I think a guy like Malik Beasley could help. Very high level outside shooter that doesn't do much outside of shooting and scoring, but he doesn't turn the ball over either. He'd be like an idealized version of Cole.

He has probably earned a pretty big contract though. I'd imagine he wants more than the MLE somewhere.

Very few teams can pay him money Pistons can.

[OrlChamps2030]

Black skipped a year somewhere.

Dude he graduated HS at 18 and was 20 during his rookie NBA season. Quit spreading fake news.. second time I’ve caught you doing it this week

[Magic_Johnny12]

I think a guy like Malik Beasley could help. Very high level outside shooter that doesn't do much outside of shooting and scoring, but he doesn't turn the ball over either. He'd be like an idealized version of Cole.

He has probably earned a pretty big contract though. I'd imagine he wants more than the MLE somewhere.

Very few teams can pay him money Pistons can.

Then it’s a perfect opportunity for Orlando to ask about the availability of Ivey.

[basketballRob]

Black skipped a year somewhere.

Dude he graduated HS at 18 and was 20 during his rookie NBA season. Quit spreading fake news.. second time I’ve caught you doing it this week

Dude, he was 18 in college until January 20th.

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[OrlChamps2030]

Black skipped a year somewhere.

Dude he graduated HS at 18 and was 20 during his rookie NBA season. Quit spreading fake news.. second time I’ve caught you doing it this week

Dude, he was 18 in college until January 20th.

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…that’s the normal freshman age… are you okay lol

[Rainwater]

I think a guy like Malik Beasley could help. Very high level outside shooter that doesn't do much outside of shooting and scoring, but he doesn't turn the ball over either. He'd be like an idealized version of Cole.

He has probably earned a pretty big contract though. I'd imagine he wants more than the MLE somewhere.

I would love him here but don’t see him leaving Detroit

[basketballRob]

Dude he graduated HS at 18 and was 20 during his rookie NBA season. Quit spreading fake news.. second time I’ve caught you doing it this week

Dude, he was 18 in college until January 20th.

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…that’s the normal freshman age… are you okay lol

He's a little younger than normal. Suggs and Cole were 6-7 months older during their freshman seasons.

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[Skybox]

Peyton Pritchard also called the Magic's defense the best that they've faced. I assumed that was in the playoffs. Black guarded Pritchard a lot in the series.

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Let’s end this absurd debate. Both are movable. AB has a better return.

I like AB but I’m trading him for a better shooter/ playmaker if it’s on the table.

We could trade Franz for Booker. He's a better shooter and then trade Moe for Cam Johnson.

Suggs
Booker
Cam
Paolo
Wendell

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Franz, imo is just better than Booker today...and even more so tomorrow.

Booker is great, btw. Suggs for Booker in heartbeat.

[Bakomagic]

What do you all think about bringing in CJ McCollum, shouldn’t take too many assets and he can be a rich man’s COJO Cole hybrid. Giving us the veteran steadiness of a COJO with the microwave scoring ability of Cole.

Veteran ball handler averaging 5.7 asts a game, career 40% 3p shooter on good volume.

Has experience playing 2nd and 3rd fiddle to Brandon Ingram, Zion and Dame in the past, while possessing the ability to carry the scoring load for long stretches when needed.

JI, Jett, Den 1st for CJ

CJ/AB/Cole
Suggs/KCP
Franz/TDS/Caleb
Paolo/M. Wagner
WCjr/Goga

[basketballRob]

What do you all think about bringing in CJ McCollum, shouldn’t take too many assets and he can be a rich man’s COJO Cole hybrid. Giving us the veteran steadiness of a COJO with the microwave scoring ability of Cole.

Veteran ball handler averaging 5.7 asts a game, career 40% 3p shooter on good volume.

Has experience playing 2nd and 3rd fiddle to Brandon Ingram, Zion and Dame in the past, while possessing the ability to carry the scoring load for long stretches when needed.

JI, Jett, Den 1st for CJ

CJ/AB/Cole
Suggs/KCP
Franz/TDS/Caleb
Paolo/M. Wagner
WCjr/Goga

I'd be okay with it he agreed to a reasonable extension. Maybe an extra 2 yrs $30m.

Coby White, Simons, Sexton, and CJ are all extension eligible, and that would probably be worked out before the trade.

Poole has 2 years left, but I guess it's possible to give him an extension now.





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[OrlChamps2030]

Dude, he was 18 in college until January 20th.

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…that’s the normal freshman age… are you okay lol

He's a little younger than normal. Suggs and Cole were 6-7 months older during their freshman seasons.

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My boy, being born in January doesn’t make young thats normal. For sports, summer birthdays are young. Just stop lol

[basketballRob]

…that’s the normal freshman age… are you okay lol

He's a little younger than normal. Suggs and Cole were 6-7 months older during their freshman seasons.

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My boy, being born in January doesn’t make young thats normal. For sports, summer birthdays are young. Just stop lol

Black was our youngest draft pick since Aaron Gordon. That's how abnormal it is to get a player that young.

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[Skybox]

Advanced stats show Franz at 28 points 6 boards and 5 assist on 31% usage TS% 55.8

Deni Avdija 22 points 9 rebounds and 5 assist on only 24% usage with a TS% 60.5

Franz will make $38M and $41M the next two seasons.

Avdija will make $14M and $13M the next two seasons.

Thats the type of player you think of trading Franz for, the true stats suggest he’s at least scoring wise every bit of Franz BUT he’s also shooting 36.5% from the 3 point line. You do all you can to get Advija and Simons .

That's all you brother

you've got your own battles to fight