NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 6

[Doug_Blew]

Rui had a great game for 9 of 16 from the field with 23 points. I still think Luka had a better game though given that Rui only had 4 rebounds and zero assists. Lebron did not have a good game though for his standards.

Luka played pretty good last night. I just remember that missed layup in the last minute or 2 that lead to a fast break bucket for the Wolves that basically put the game away.

[AFM]

On offense. That may have been the worst display of defense I’ve seen in years.

[tontoz]

I am not impressed with Sengun. He struggles to finish inside if he can't get all the way to the rim. He has no jumper and is a weak defender. I wouldn't want to be stuck paying him big money.

[Zonkerbl]

God this Knicks Pistons game

Much drama, very sports

[Zonkerbl]

Jalen Brunson: GET ON MY BACK

[closg00]

Heartbreak for Pistons fans, great series.

[AFM]

Brunson was too shnasty wit it he had that fella dancin

[bsilver]

Ausur Thompson was doing a good job on Brunson, and Detroit built up a lead. For some reason BVickerstaff replaced Thompson with Schroeder and Brunson started scoring. Totally changed the game. Bad move.

[nate33]

Ausur Thompson was doing a good job on Brunson, and Detroit built up a lead. For some reason BVickerstaff replaced Thompson with Schroeder and Brunson started scoring. Totally changed the game. Bad move.

I don't think this narrative is accurate. Bickerstaff basically alternated Thompson and Schroder as the primary defender on Brunson.

Ausar Thompson's on/off was -7. Schroder's was +7.

Ausar was indeed better defensively than Schroder, but the issue is that he kills spacing at the other end. It's just tough to play Ausar and one of Duren/Reed at the same time. The lane gets too clogged. It's the classic case where the good things that Ausar does are clearly evident (defensive stops), but that bad things he causes just don't get noticed. Nobody blames Ausar when his defender is able to leave him and tag a roll man with no consequences.

[Kanyewest]

Ausur Thompson was doing a good job on Brunson, and Detroit built up a lead. For some reason BVickerstaff replaced Thompson with Schroeder and Brunson started scoring. Totally changed the game. Bad move.

I don't think this narrative is accurate. Bickerstaff basically alternated Thompson and Schroder as the primary defender on Brunson.

Ausar Thompson's on/off was -7. Schroder's was +7.

Ausar was indeed better defensively than Schroder, but the issue is that he kills spacing at the other end. It's just tough to play Ausar and one of Duren/Reed at the same time. The lane gets too clogged. It's the classic case where the good things that Ausar does are clearly evident (defensive stops), but that bad things he causes just don't get noticed. Nobody blames Ausar when his defender is able to leave him and tag a roll man with no consequences.

The difference in plus minutes could also be because Thompson is playing more against the Knicks starters, while Schroeder is playing more against the Knicks bench.

[nate33]

Ausur Thompson was doing a good job on Brunson, and Detroit built up a lead. For some reason BVickerstaff replaced Thompson with Schroeder and Brunson started scoring. Totally changed the game. Bad move.

I don't think this narrative is accurate. Bickerstaff basically alternated Thompson and Schroder as the primary defender on Brunson.

Ausar Thompson's on/off was -7. Schroder's was +7.

Ausar was indeed better defensively than Schroder, but the issue is that he kills spacing at the other end. It's just tough to play Ausar and one of Duren/Reed at the same time. The lane gets too clogged. It's the classic case where the good things that Ausar does are clearly evident (defensive stops), but that bad things he causes just don't get noticed. Nobody blames Ausar when his defender is able to leave him and tag a roll man with no consequences.

The difference in plus minutes could also be because Thompson is playing more against the Knicks starters, while Schroeder is playing more against the Knicks bench.

I really don't think that was the case though. Ausar and Schroder were subbed in and out a lot. It wasn't just they typical starter/bench schedule. Also, New York doesn't really play subs. Brunson played 42 minutes. Bridges and Anunoby played 44.

[Kanyewest]

Rui had a great game for 9 of 16 from the field with 23 points. I still think Luka had a better game though given that Rui only had 4 rebounds and zero assists. Lebron did not have a good game though for his standards.

Luka played pretty good last night. I just remember that missed layup in the last minute or 2 that lead to a fast break bucket for the Wolves that basically put the game away.

True, and Randle and others torched him. But Rui got a lot of his buckets from assists (ie Luka). The rebounding by Rui was worse than I thought- 4 rebounds by only 1 defensive rebound. And one of his offensive rebounds immediately lead to a turnover.

[Kanyewest]

I don't think this narrative is accurate. Bickerstaff basically alternated Thompson and Schroder as the primary defender on Brunson.

Ausar Thompson's on/off was -7. Schroder's was +7.

Ausar was indeed better defensively than Schroder, but the issue is that he kills spacing at the other end. It's just tough to play Ausar and one of Duren/Reed at the same time. The lane gets too clogged. It's the classic case where the good things that Ausar does are clearly evident (defensive stops), but that bad things he causes just don't get noticed. Nobody blames Ausar when his defender is able to leave him and tag a roll man with no consequences.

The difference in plus minutes could also be because Thompson is playing more against the Knicks starters, while Schroeder is playing more against the Knicks bench.

I really don't think that was the case though. Ausar and Schroder were subbed in and out a lot. It wasn't just they typical starter/bench schedule. Also, New York doesn't really play subs. Brunson played 42 minutes. Bridges and Anunoby played 44.

To your point about spacing, that applied to the Knicks whenever they put in Mitchell Robinson who was -10.

[Kanyewest]

The difference in plus minutes could also be because Thompson is playing more against the Knicks starters, while Schroeder is playing more against the Knicks bench.

I really don't think that was the case though. Ausar and Schroder were subbed in and out a lot. It wasn't just they typical starter/bench schedule. Also, New York doesn't really play subs. Brunson played 42 minutes. Bridges and Anunoby played 44.

To your point about spacing, that applied to the Knicks whenever they put in Mitchell Robinson who was -10.

I would also point out that Schroeder is also playing more minutes with Malik Beasley as opposed Tim Hardaway who was 1 of 6 from deep. Maybe Beasley (or Schroeder) could have started over Hardaway although they would have given up some size.

[bsilver]

Ausur Thompson was doing a good job on Brunson, and Detroit built up a lead. For some reason BVickerstaff replaced Thompson with Schroeder and Brunson started scoring. Totally changed the game. Bad move.

I don't think this narrative is accurate. Bickerstaff basically alternated Thompson and Schroder as the primary defender on Brunson.

Ausar Thompson's on/off was -7. Schroder's was +7.

Ausar was indeed better defensively than Schroder, but the issue is that he kills spacing at the other end. It's just tough to play Ausar and one of Duren/Reed at the same time. The lane gets too clogged. It's the classic case where the good things that Ausar does are clearly evident (defensive stops), but that bad things he causes just don't get noticed. Nobody blames Ausar when his defender is able to leave him and tag a roll man with no consequences.

I stand by my point, and looking at the Pistons forum, it looks like they do also.
The Knicks offense at the end of games is to clear out and have Brunson go one on one, So Thompson had to be in there. The Pistons offense at the end was Cunningham doing the same, so I don’t see that Schroeder helped any.

[9 and 20]

Detroit looking like they'll be really good over the next few years. Cade has really come into his own. Pistons might be a dark horse for a big trade in the offseason - Giannis, Zion, someone like that.

KAT is still one of my least favorite players in the league. Would be happy to see the Knicks get bounced ASAP.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I am not impressed with Sengun. He struggles to finish inside if he can't get all the way to the rim. He has no jumper and is a weak defender. I wouldn't want to be stuck paying him big money.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sengual01.html

I think he's an excellent player. In his first playoffs at 22 years old, he's averaging (approximately, today's stats not included):

21 points / 12 rebound / 5 assists / 2 steals / Game Score 17.7

Alperen Sengun is killing Golden State a multitude of ways.

[tontoz]

I am not impressed with Sengun. He struggles to finish inside if he can't get all the way to the rim. He has no jumper and is a weak defender. I wouldn't want to be stuck paying him big money.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sengual01.html

I think he's an excellent player. In his first playoffs at 22 years old, he's averaging (approximately, today's stats not included):

21 points / 12 rebound / 5 assists / 2 steals / Game Score 17.7

Alperen Sengun is killing Golden State a multitude of ways.

A 50% TS isn't exactly what I am looking for from a center. That is what he is averaging against GS. Their pg FVV has a TS of 63.6%.

During the regular season 40% of his shots were from 3-10 feet and he shot 45% on those attempts. Again not what I want from a center.

[dobrojim]

FVV has been really good. His production has been
offsetting Steph. The other guy for HOU who is
making plays is Tari Eason, a guy we could have drafted instead of ??? was it Davis? Oh my.

[AFM]

Clippers going out sad rn