2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

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[Muzbar]

If Maluach is there at 12, I'm taking him in a heartbeat.

He won't be

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Oh, I know.

But some a mocking him as such and others are still trying to talk him down.

If he drops, I'd nab him.

[WesPeace]

Maluach will be top 10 pick..

#12 if we stay there, Essengue, Murray Boyles, Fleming still my top 3

[LateNight]

Yaxel v Fleming - which one would you take?

Consensus seems to have Fleming higher in drafts / but seems to disappear in a lot of games.

Anybody here watch games for both prospects?

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Is free throw drawing rate in transition a meaningful stat? I would think drawing them in the half-court is the more important one.

[Chi town]

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Is free throw drawing rate in transition a meaningful stat? I would think drawing them in the half-court is the more important one.

Agreed.

I will say Noa is electric in the open court as Buz. I think you put those two guys with their length and shot blocking next to Giddey and we will. E getting lots of easy buckets.

Noa is really good at drawing fouls much like Buz with his change of speeds, angles, and length. This raises his floor a lot. I see a very similar development arc to Buz. Won’t play much early and will really work on his shot and doing well his limited role. As he earns mins and plays well he will expand his game.

He’s much younger than Buz coming in and is at least a year behind him in development with his shot, ball handling, and body as well.

Him and Buz together would be must watch tv. I also think like Buz he will become a secondary playmaker and will be able to get his own shooting time. He already has a nice turn around jumper from the post that is basically unblockable due to his length.

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[Chi town]

I’d trade Coby for Tre. He’s an elite shooter and mature beyond his years. He will be a pro’s pro. Givony saying he has taken 30,000+ **** in the past 4 weeks of training. All tracked too.

https://youtu.be/OPML5Aik8mI?si=pAottup7xsiTUEZx

If he falls to 8 I’m offering Ayo or the POR pick to move up and get him.

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I’d trade Coby for Tre. He’s an elite shooter and mature beyond his years. He will be a pro’s pro. Givony saying he has taken 30,000+ **** in the past 4 weeks of training. All tracked too.

https://youtu.be/OPML5Aik8mI?si=pAottup7xsiTUEZx

If he falls to 8 I’m offering Ayo or the POR pick to move up and get him.

But then to your point, you gotta trade Coby this offseason to get value for him with his replacement in place.

[Chi town]

I’d trade Coby for Tre. He’s an elite shooter and mature beyond his years. He will be a pro’s pro. Givony saying he has taken 30,000+ **** in the past 4 weeks of training. All tracked too.

https://youtu.be/OPML5Aik8mI?si=pAottup7xsiTUEZx

If he falls to 8 I’m offering Ayo or the POR pick to move up and get him.

But then to your point, you gotta trade Coby this offseason to get value for him with his replacement in place.

I don’t see Coby being traded unless it’s a massive overpay. Don’t see it happening at all.

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I’d trade Coby for Tre. He’s an elite shooter and mature beyond his years. He will be a pro’s pro. Givony saying he has taken 30,000+ **** in the past 4 weeks of training. All tracked too.

https://youtu.be/OPML5Aik8mI?si=pAottup7xsiTUEZx

If he falls to 8 I’m offering Ayo or the POR pick to move up and get him.

30,000+ **** in the past 4 weeks seems excessively high. He might want to get that checked out.

[Chi town]

I’d trade Coby for Tre. He’s an elite shooter and mature beyond his years. He will be a pro’s pro. Givony saying he has taken 30,000+ **** in the past 4 weeks of training. All tracked too.

https://youtu.be/OPML5Aik8mI?si=pAottup7xsiTUEZx

If he falls to 8 I’m offering Ayo or the POR pick to move up and get him.

Nah. 1,000+ per day. Lots of FTs I’d think in there.

30,000+ **** in the past 4 weeks seems excessively high. He might want to get that checked out.

[Chi town]

SB nation has Bulls taking Noa…

Chicago Bulls - Noa Essengue: Essengue is a huge and athletic French forward (6’9, 9’3 standing reach) who is already putting up impressive numbers in the German pro league as the second youngest player in this draft class (he’s three days older than Flagg). He plays a high energy game finding scoring opportunities on cuts and mismatch driving opportunities while running the floor hard in transition. His 62 percent true shooting in a low usage, play-finishing role is extremely impressive for such a young player in a pro league, and his defensive ability feels even better than his offense right now. Essengue is a switchable defender who can stay with smaller ball handlers for a couple seconds while also walling up at the rim. He is not a reliable outside shooter yet (27.6 percent from three) and doesn’t see the floor well as a passer, but his size, athleticism, and production are strong indicators for his future.

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Is free throw drawing rate in transition a meaningful stat? I would think drawing them in the half-court is the more important one.

Yeah it's questionable. I'm just now learning about Essengue and ran across that stat about his strengths as a transition player, and with how this team wants to play by running the floor he seems to be a fit.

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SB nation has Bulls taking Noa…

Chicago Bulls - Noa Essengue: Essengue is a huge and athletic French forward (6’9, 9’3 standing reach) who is already putting up impressive numbers in the German pro league as the second youngest player in this draft class (he’s three days older than Flagg). He plays a high energy game finding scoring opportunities on cuts and mismatch driving opportunities while running the floor hard in transition. His 62 percent true shooting in a low usage, play-finishing role is extremely impressive for such a young player in a pro league, and his defensive ability feels even better than his offense right now. Essengue is a switchable defender who can stay with smaller ball handlers for a couple seconds while also walling up at the rim. He is not a reliable outside shooter yet (27.6 percent from three) and doesn’t see the floor well as a passer, but his size, athleticism, and production are strong indicators for his future.

Ricky O'Donnell looks to be high on both Essengue and CMB for the Bulls at #12.

[Jcool0]

I’d trade Coby for Tre. He’s an elite shooter and mature beyond his years. He will be a pro’s pro. Givony saying he has taken 30,000+ **** in the past 4 weeks of training. All tracked too.

https://youtu.be/OPML5Aik8mI?si=pAottup7xsiTUEZx

If he falls to 8 I’m offering Ayo or the POR pick to move up and get him.

Shooting isnt the problem for Tre. He is an awful defender and doesnt get to the line enough.

If you want a good breakdown:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/s/PRviqA2uXL

[Chi town]

I’d trade Coby for Tre. He’s an elite shooter and mature beyond his years. He will be a pro’s pro. Givony saying he has taken 30,000+ **** in the past 4 weeks of training. All tracked too.

https://youtu.be/OPML5Aik8mI?si=pAottup7xsiTUEZx

If he falls to 8 I’m offering Ayo or the POR pick to move up and get him.

Shooting isnt the problem for Tre. He is an awful defender and doesnt get to the line enough.

If you want a good breakdown:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/s/PRviqA2uXL

Thanks. Solid.

Tre is similar to Ace in that the team dynamic was awful for bringing out the best in him. He’s elite IQ. He will figure out the NBA game and get buckets. He’s such a good shooter off movement and the bounce that he will create crazy gravity. He also flies around the court like Steph to get looks.

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Where, if not here, are we rooting for Flagg to end up? NO? UTA?

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Where, if not here, are we rooting for Flagg to end up? NO? UTA?

Hornets. They have missed out on many great prospects, and that fan base deserves some winning.