Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - 2025 Off-season

[BroncoBuck]

I get that Flagg is the shiny new draft toy but ppl do realize he reclassified to avoid the 2026 draft because there was zero chance he was going to be the top prospect right? Dybansta, Peterson and Boozer were all rated higher as high school prospects than him. He wouldn’t even be a consensus top 3 pick next year let alone the top guy. Trading Giannis for him is absolutely crazy and short sighted at a minimum. You want draft picks for Giannis, load up on 2026 lotto tickets not 2025.

Flagg will be a good pro but a generational talent he’s something he is not.

Flagg just won National Player of the Year as a 17 year old. He is absolutely a generational talent.

The only 4 players to win that award as a freshman:

Durant
AD
Zion
Flagg

[Bernman]

I get that Flagg is the shiny new draft toy but ppl do realize he reclassified to avoid the 2026 draft because there was zero chance he was going to be the top prospect right? Dybansta, Peterson and Boozer were all rated higher as high school prospects than him. He wouldn’t even be a consensus top 3 pick next year let alone the top guy. Trading Giannis for him is absolutely crazy and short sighted at a minimum. You want draft picks for Giannis, load up on 2026 lotto tickets not 2025.

Flagg will be a good pro but a generational talent he’s something he is not.

This is all just not true. Flagg re-classified because he was so advanced he was scrimmaging w/ the senior US team, more than ready for college, & wanted to jump to the pros early. Then he won nat'l player of the yr as a re-classified hs senior. Only 3 frosh had ever done it period. All 3 are or would be All NBA players if they played enough games to qualify - Durant, AD, Zion.

As if there were 3 more guys in '25 that would have won nat'l player of the year in '24, let alone as hs seniors. In no draft would Flagg go not even third. That's absurd. He had a ton of advanced hype & he improved his stock because he showed the ability to be a #1 option due to passing & touch above a level that was believed before. Outside of LeBron & Wemby, nobody's clearly been a better prospect than him this century. If you want to call that generational or not is rather semantical. He projects to be an All NBA player is what matters.

What would be crazy would be to reject the quality of Flagg, a good player to match salaries/prospect & a few picks, maybe while absorbing a bad salary; instead choosing many random picks, possibly lower in the 1st rd where your hit rate for guys a tier or two below Flagg is <50%.

[raferfenix]

What would a Giannis extension look like this summer?

It’d certainly be easier to stomach keeping Doc on his say so if he’d re-commit.

[Bernman]

What would a Giannis extension look like this summer?

It’d certainly be easier to stomach keeping Doc on his say so if he’d re-commit.

I guess Giannis technically can't extend until next summer. All he can make is a verbal agreement, which I'd trust due to his character.

I'd rather convince him Doc hinders his goals here (& get the verbal agreement) OR go in another direction altogether.

[JayMKE]

I’m honestly not sure what kind of upside Flagg has, he’s definitely the consensus #1 tho. Is he a top 10 player in the league tho?

[BigO]

I’m honestly not sure what kind of upside Flagg has, he’s definitely the consensus #1 tho. Is he a top 10 player in the league tho?

Well, that's what GMs have to decide. I think he will be top 5 and perhaps more. But that's just my analysis. I wouldn't promote it if he was just top 10.

[BigO]

I think I'd put Barnes at the bottom, but agree with the others.

I don't think you're properly accounting for the unselfishness of Barnes, who plays worse than he could to allow his teammates to develop.

I was about to post something similar.

Scottie can give you 30 whenever he wants, but he just decides not to for the betterment of the team.

So Scotttie Barnes decides to forego scoring 30 a night in order to make his team better?

But his team isn't better.

He was on a team which had Siakam and Anunoby and Fred Van Vliet. I was told on here that Anunoby and Siakam were great players. Now I'm told Barnes is. Why weren't these teams better?

Scottie Barnes is a nice complementary piece, but he is really inefficient. The idea that increasing his number of shots will make him more efficient isn't how it generally works.

[BroncoBuck]

I’m honestly not sure what kind of upside Flagg has, he’s definitely the consensus #1 tho. Is he a top 10 player in the league tho?

White Kawhi Leonard

[RiotPunch]

I’m honestly not sure what kind of upside Flagg has, he’s definitely the consensus #1 tho. Is he a top 10 player in the league tho?

White Kawhi Leonard

Kawhite Leonard was right there.

[BroncoBuck]

I’m honestly not sure what kind of upside Flagg has, he’s definitely the consensus #1 tho. Is he a top 10 player in the league tho?

White Kawhi Leonard

Kawhite Leonard was right there.

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[Baddy Chuck]

I wonder what White Melo Luke Babbitt is up to.

[CannondaleF400]

What would you think of Luka for Giannis? Luka is four years younger and this could give us another 10 years of relevance. Giannis might have only another elite 4-5 years, and he could be on a similar trajectory as Russell Westbrook with his reliance on athleticism. Westbrook’s last elite year was arguably at age 32 with Washington. Luka could give the franchise a reset and be an impetus to get a new coach in here.

[mattg]

I get that Flagg is the shiny new draft toy but ppl do realize he reclassified to avoid the 2026 draft because there was zero chance he was going to be the top prospect right? Dybansta, Peterson and Boozer were all rated higher as high school prospects than him. He wouldn’t even be a consensus top 3 pick next year let alone the top guy. Trading Giannis for him is absolutely crazy and short sighted at a minimum. You want draft picks for Giannis, load up on 2026 lotto tickets not 2025.

Flagg will be a good pro but a generational talent he’s something he is not.

This post screams to me you haven't actually seen all these guys or know their full story. Dybansta is nice, but he doesn't have even close to the bbiq of Flagg. Especially since AJ's family pulled that crap where a player is held back intentionally when younger so he was a 16 year old freshman, so he gets to absolutely dominate middle schoolers and be ULTRA advanced for his class but he's actually older than all of them and then they go and reclass back down to their actual age once they properly built their hype up. Always a red flag with every player who does that. I guarantee next college season half this board is going to be posting about "how was AJ Dybansta ranked above these other dudes? he's just an athletic 6'9 dude who takes really tough shots".

Boozer just isn't better than Flagg. Not even a discussion whatsoever and it will be obvious when he plays at Duke in the same system next year and is a lesser version of Flagg.

Peterson has come on and might be the best of those 3, but to me his upside is still like a less athletic Anthony Edwards, which is still phenomenal obviously, but hardly clearly but better than the others he's mocked next to.

Cooper is going to be rich man's Jimmy Butler/Kawhi. Rich man's version of those guys. He's everything those dudes were defensively and more, and soooooooooo much more advanced offensively that it's almost insulting to compare those 2 as prospects to Cooper.

[BroncoBuck]

I wonder what White Melo Luke Babbitt is up to.

Would’ve bet money he was playing volleyball with Chase Buddinger.

[emunney]

I don't think you're properly accounting for the unselfishness of Barnes, who plays worse than he could to allow his teammates to develop.

I was about to post something similar.

Scottie can give you 30 whenever he wants, but he just decides not to for the betterment of the team.

So Scotttie Barnes decides to forego scoring 30 a night in order to make his team better?

But his team isn't better.

He was on a team which had Siakam and Anunoby and Fred Van Vliet. I was told on here that Anunoby and Siakam were great players. Now I'm told Barnes is. Why weren't these teams better?

Scottie Barnes is a nice complementary piece, but he is really inefficient. The idea that increasing his number of shots will make him more efficient isn't how it generally works.

Have to factor into those efficiency numbers that he misses shots on purpose so Gradey Dick can learn to rebound.

[ReginaldDwight]

Flagg woulda been the first pick last draft much less this draft what are we even talking about. Dude woulda gone first pick out of HS.

[JayMKE]

Flagg woulda been the first pick last draft much less this draft what are we even talking about. Dude woulda gone first pick out of HS.

Some random dude named zaccharie risacher went #1 last year so ya probably

[MickeyDavis]

Suns and Nuggets are the only 2 coaching jobs available. Doubt anyone else gets fired. Nuggets may go with Adelman if they win a couple of rounds. Malone and Jenkins are the two "names" out there but they were fired for a reason and who knows how desirable they are. The Bucks could have their pick of either of them or any assistant in the league, depending who the Suns choose.

I can't stand the thought of seeing and listening to Doc for another **** year.

[Baddy Chuck]

Suns and Nuggets are the only 2 coaching jobs available.

Surely waiting on the Doc decision.

[Frank Nova]

I get that Flagg is the shiny new draft toy but ppl do realize he reclassified to avoid the 2026 draft because there was zero chance he was going to be the top prospect right? Dybansta, Peterson and Boozer were all rated higher as high school prospects than him. He wouldn’t even be a consensus top 3 pick next year let alone the top guy. Trading Giannis for him is absolutely crazy and short sighted at a minimum. You want draft picks for Giannis, load up on 2026 lotto tickets not 2025.

Flagg will be a good pro but a generational talent he’s something he is not.

This is all just not true. Flagg re-classified because he was so advanced he was scrimmaging w/ the senior US team, more than ready for college, & wanted to jump to the pros early. Then he won nat'l player of the yr as a re-classified hs senior. Only 3 frosh had ever done it period. All 3 are or would be All NBA players if they played enough games to qualify - Durant, AD, Zion.

As if there were 3 more guys in '25 that would have won nat'l player of the year in '24, let alone as hs seniors. In no draft would Flagg go not even third. That's absurd. He had a ton of advanced hype & he improved his stock because he showed the ability to be a #1 option due to passing & touch above a level that was believed before. Outside of LeBron & Wemby, nobody's clearly been a better prospect than him this century. If you want to call that generational or not is rather semantical. He projects to be an All NBA player is what matters.

What would be absolutely crazy would be to reject the quality of Flagg, a good player to match salaries/prospect & a few picks, maybe while absorbing a bad salary; instead choosing many random picks, many lower in the 1st rd where your hit rate for guys a tier or two below Flagg is <50%.

We will just have to see I guess. I’ve read articles that state his reclassification was partly motivated by draft position in a weaker 2025 class but I guess I don’t know that for a fact. I also think Johnni Broome was hands down the best player in college basketball last year so we can just agree to disagree. Time will tell. Your points are valid tho I’m not saying they’re not. You can say what I said is “just not true” but I find that to be more opinionated than factual. AJ Dybansta is probably my favorite prospect since Kevin Durant, it’s a real hard sell to me that Flagg is better 10yrs from now. I’d put Darryn Peterson ahead of Flagg, too.

Kevin Durants freshman year trumps Flaggs by a wide margin. I get the point you made and technically it’s true but come on, yeah they “did the same thing” but no they definitely didn’t. Flaggs college numbers were closer to Andrew Wiggins than they were Kevin Durant besides assists. Putting Flagg behind only Lebron and Wemby as prospects this century is a wild thing to say.

You could be right about Flagg tho and maybe he’s the 2nd coming of some hybrid Larry Bird/Scottie Pippen, I’m just not sure if I see it. But you do and I respect that.

I’ve got a question, if Giannis does request a trade to leave, do you think Horst regrets not trading Giannis for Luka, Christie and a 1st when/if he had the chance? And would you rather have Flagg or Luka in a Giannis trade because you’re talking like Flagg will be greater than or equal to Luka in the future so I’m curious?