lilfishi22 wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:
Literally says Gregory was a key part of the selection. Not that he was the one who made the call.
But if you want to suggest Jones wasn't a key decision maker as GM then I can once again I can suggest Jones wasn't a key decision maker in all the bad moves we've made and selectively give him credit for the good ones.
Maybe he wasn't, maybe he was? But at least I've offered evidence of support for my position. Do you have anything at all apart from personal opinion that even mentions or supports the premise that he wasn't a key decision maker in those sub par/ detrimental decisions?
Also, going off what we know of Jones during his tenure here and his proclivities in trades and overall value assessments, and his aversion to the draft in general over free agents and other vets, what would really be your counter position? We can both argue from a logical fallacy position. And continue to go back and forth on differing perspectives.
But I've at least furnished evidence of inside information establishing pattern of outcome and correlative substantiative factors towards my position. But even if your counter would be that Jones wasn't/ isn't a key decision maker in those processes and outcomes man,
Then that would then only further substantiate that he's a "Yes man" in his role, and as a byproduct would obviously invalidate the overall credibility of his even being in that title position in the first place. Because if that's the case, then he's only a faux GM and a puppet representative of the position. Which really kind of tracts with our outcome over the past number of seasons up till currently.
I used the same evidence you put forward
I cited actual articles with quotes from what Jones said himself, tweets from NBA sources, and cedentialed Phoenix media and also front office sources, etc.
Basically repeating much of the same perspectives that I offered man. I apologize if I've somehow missed the articles and/ or tweets from Phoenix suns sources that echo your position. But I honestly don't remember you citing anything your own perspectives.
It's fine to disagree on how we each might view Jones' overall legitimacy as a GM. But apparently the Suns front office are clearly sharing a similar perspective on Jones to what I've offered by his being replaced and demoted to senior advisor with Gregory replacing him as GM. And I wouldn't at all be surprised if he's just quietly phased out and his contract not renewed this June either.
Puzzling because if he was such a good GM and even average in role, you'd think they would choose to keep him. But I guess we'll see how things play out over the next month or two.
aint that somethin