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[Tor_Raps]

Are we over tax if we draft 7
Trade the 2nd for say 2 future 2nds
Sign Boucher and Temple to vet mins

Everytine I look at our roster and playing time, it really looks like multiple guys get left out, but if course will play due to playing time.

But it seems like a consolidation can certainly occur this off-season...even if it's just a 2-1. But normally that 1 makes more money so that doesn't work...lol.

F it, go into the tax and look to add better, winning pieces!

Masai always said they can go into the tax if it makes sense. The current roster doesn't make sense but you make one big move and then it definitely makes sense. It'll all come down to what's available.

We have about 9.5M room with 3 roster spot to fill.
7th pick cost about 7M and 2x 2nd round min contract anout 2.7M. we are slightly over but can waive a min contract and do some 10 day shenanigan at the end of season to get under the tax probably

Ya it's a lot of assumptions without knowing how the lottery and offseason plays out. I'm expecting a lot of big names to be made available this offseason and I'd be shocked if we stood pat if that's the case.

May 12th, draft and free agency cant come soon enough... really excited for the offseason to start lol.

[Godaddycurse]

Masai always said they can go into the tax if it makes sense. The current roster doesn't make sense but you make one big move and then it definitely makes sense. It'll all come down to what's available.

We have about 9.5M room with 3 roster spot to fill.
7th pick cost about 7M and 2x 2nd round min contract anout 2.7M. we are slightly over but can waive a min contract and do some 10 day shenanigan at the end of season to get under the tax probably

But could we trade the 2nd for futures, and instead do 2 vet mins?

2nd rd contracts cost less than vet mins 1.3ish mil vs 2 mil

[Tripod]

We have about 9.5M room with 3 roster spot to fill.
7th pick cost about 7M and 2x 2nd round min contract anout 2.7M. we are slightly over but can waive a min contract and do some 10 day shenanigan at the end of season to get under the tax probably

But could we trade the 2nd for futures, and instead do 2 vet mins?

2nd rd contracts cost less than vet mins 1.3ish mil vs 2 mil

Thank you

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

If we land the 1st (Flagg), that should get us Giannis without giving up Barnes. Package that with RJ and Dick.

Good chance for the chip: Giannis, Ingram, Barnes, IQ, Poeltl

I wouldn't want to trade Flagg.

Flagg is gonna be better than Giannis?

[Tripod]

If we land the 1st (Flagg), that should get us Giannis without giving up Barnes. Package that with RJ and Dick.

Good chance for the chip: Giannis, Ingram, Barnes, IQ, Poeltl

I wouldn't want to trade Flagg.

Flagg is gonna be better than Giannis?

No. But Flagg and his rookie contract + team control for 9 years + not having to give up 5 years of draft capital + not trading away our newly acquired depth, certainly is.

[Brinbe]

Flagg is def not the guy who would/should be dealt out. It'd probably be Scottie.

And looking at the two big renaissance coming back to prominence (just look at Chet+IHart, Mobley+Jarrett and Sengun+Adams) and it also calls into question if we can compete if Scottie sticks as a 4 or if he'll potentially need to move to being a 3 down the road.

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[sidsid]

Flagg is def not the guy who would/should be dealt out. It'd probably be Scottie.

And looking at the two big renaissance coming back to prominence (just look at Chet+IHart, Mobley+Jarrett and Sengun+Adams) and it also calls into question if we can compete if Scottie sticks as a 4 or if he'll potentially need to move to being a 3 down the road.

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If we get Flagg there won't be a choice. The Bucks will demand him over Scottie, so everyone should just come to terms with that. This is how Ainge was always annoyed in trade talks when Tatum was the asking price even though they thought they had other better assets than competing teams were offering.

And the two bigs defense isn't new (Sengun isn't part of this. He's a liability that the Warriors weak offense hasn't been good enough to routinely expose). The Bucks have been running it since Brook arrived. The question is if your offense can sustain if they aren't good enough ranged shooters. This was the Cavs problem last year, and untested this year.

This is why the OKC Giannis trades will be focused around Jdub and not Chet. Chet is just a supercharged version of Brook and the dominance this duo would bring is incredible. Only to be outdone by a Giannis/Wemby combo...

[ciueli]

If we land the 1st (Flagg), that should get us Giannis without giving up Barnes. Package that with RJ and Dick.

Good chance for the chip: Giannis, Ingram, Barnes, IQ, Poeltl

We'd have to trade a lot more than RJ and Gradey to make the cap math work so there has to be more money going out to match Giannis' salary, probably have to move Jak to do it realistically. Even if we could do it without losing Jak we aren't winning a championship with zero 3 point shooting in the front court and no credible bench after our depth is gutted in this trade (again, that would be necessary to make the cap math work).

[Psubs]

Flagg will not be traded. #2 or lower, sure. Even if he's just Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS he is not being traded.

OKC would should not send Chet or Jalen Williams for Giannis.

#15, #24, Nikola Topic, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Kenrich Williams, Ousmane Dieng and four 1st picks should do it.

PG SGA - FA
SG Dort - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins
PF Chet - Giannis
C Giannis - Hartenstein

[mademan]

Flagg will not be traded. #2 or lower, sure. Even if he's just Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS he is not being traded.

OKC would should not send Chet or Jalen Williams for Giannis.

#15, #24, Nikola Topic, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Kenrich Williams, Ousmane Dieng and four 1st picks should do it.

PG SGA - FA
SG Dort - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins
PF Chet - Giannis
C Giannis - Hartenstein

OKC have to pay Chet/Jdub max money in a years time. Then they gotta give Shai the supermax the year after

Add in Giannis and thats a heavy bill for anyone not named Balmer. I imagine they'd rather give up Chet or JDub and keep some of the cheap draft picks to continue to surround their stars with great depth

[sidsid]

Flagg will not be traded. #2 or lower, sure. Even if he's just Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS he is not being traded.

OKC would should not send Chet or Jalen Williams for Giannis.

#15, #24, Nikola Topic, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Kenrich Williams, Ousmane Dieng and four 1st picks should do it.

PG SGA - FA
SG Dort - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins
PF Chet - Giannis
C Giannis - Hartenstein

Giannis is the only target I think Masai would do it for. He planned for years post-chip for the cap space offseason for Giannis that never happened. Giants of Africa, other ties. How we've been burning assets to get back to the playoffs. The only thing really stopping it is that Giannis, even with our ability to keep Barnes, likely still wouldn't believe he could win another chip here. If he ends up going to the Nets it's the LeBron/LA thing all over again (not basketball related).

[S.W.A.N]

Flagg will not be traded. #2 or lower, sure. Even if he's just Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS he is not being traded.

OKC would should not send Chet or Jalen Williams for Giannis.

#15, #24, Nikola Topic, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Kenrich Williams, Ousmane Dieng and four 1st picks should do it.

PG SGA - FA
SG Dort - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins
PF Chet - Giannis
C Giannis - Hartenstein

Giannis is the only target I think Masai would do it for. He planned for years post-chip for the cap space offseason for Giannis that never happened. Giants of Africa, other ties. How we've been burning assets to get back to the playoffs. The only thing really stopping it is that Giannis, even with our ability to keep Barnes, likely still wouldn't believe he could win another chip here. If he ends up going to the Nets it's the LeBron/LA thing all over again (not basketball related).

That might be true, but at the end of the day you don't trade the number 1 pick when he's a potential franchise cornerstone. The value that flagg represents on his rookie contract can't be replaced. Same with the years of team control.

Giannis is likely headed to Houston/OKC/Nets. All those teams have good mixes of young players and picks that can justify the Bucks making the move.

Toronto would be in the mix, but we don't have the draft capital to compete with the other teams if they are really serious.

Giannis would be amazing, and something we should pursue.. But if we land Flagg that is out the window unless we trade Scottie for Giannis.

[Psubs]

Flagg will not be traded. #2 or lower, sure. Even if he's just Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS he is not being traded.

OKC would should not send Chet or Jalen Williams for Giannis.

#15, #24, Nikola Topic, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Kenrich Williams, Ousmane Dieng and four 1st picks should do it.

PG SGA - FA
SG Dort - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins
PF Chet - Giannis
C Giannis - Hartenstein

OKC have to pay Chet/Jdub max money in a years time. Then they gotta give Shai the supermax the year after

Add in Giannis and thats a heavy bill for anyone not named Balmer. I imagine they'd rather give up Chet or JDub and keep some of the cheap draft picks to continue to surround their stars with great depth

Just win a championship first then trade like Hartenstein for a good 1st pick or 2 late 1st picks.

[Psubs]

Flagg will not be traded. #2 or lower, sure. Even if he's just Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS he is not being traded.

OKC would should not send Chet or Jalen Williams for Giannis.

#15, #24, Nikola Topic, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Kenrich Williams, Ousmane Dieng and four 1st picks should do it.

PG SGA - FA
SG Dort - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins
PF Chet - Giannis
C Giannis - Hartenstein

OKC have to pay Chet/Jdub max money in a years time. Then they gotta give Shai the supermax the year after

Add in Giannis and thats a heavy bill for anyone not named Balmer. I imagine they'd rather give up Chet or JDub and keep some of the cheap draft picks to continue to surround their stars with great depth

Just win a championship first then trade like Hartenstein for a good 1st pick or 2 late 1st picks.

Can always trade Dort, Wiggins or Caruso.

[wegotthabeet]

I wouldn't want to trade Flagg.

Flagg is gonna be better than Giannis?

No. But Flagg and his rookie contract + team control for 9 years + not having to give up 5 years of draft capital + not trading away our newly acquired depth, certainly is.

No team is trading Flagg + multiple picks for anyone. Flagg alone would easily beat any other offer. Name a better asset available than Flagg.

[mihaic]

Flagg is gonna be better than Giannis?

No. But Flagg and his rookie contract + team control for 9 years + not having to give up 5 years of draft capital + not trading away our newly acquired depth, certainly is.

No team is trading Flagg + multiple picks for anyone. Flagg alone would easily beat any other offer. Name a better asset available than Flagg.

Wemby

But ya you are right.

[WuTang_OG]

Bucks board enamoured with getting Flagg if they have to trade Giannis. Very doubtful any team would trade him for Giannis Imo. The age , control and talent is a lot. Kid is a stud. if wash , utah or char win it then for sure we can put this convo to bed.

[wegotthabeet]

No. But Flagg and his rookie contract + team control for 9 years + not having to give up 5 years of draft capital + not trading away our newly acquired depth, certainly is.

No team is trading Flagg + multiple picks for anyone. Flagg alone would easily beat any other offer. Name a better asset available than Flagg.

Wemby

But ya you are right.

I said available asset.

[wegotthabeet]

Bucks board enamoured with getting Flagg if they have to trade Giannis. Very doubtful any team would trade him for Giannis Imo. The age , control and talent is a lot. Kid is a stud. if wash , utah or char win it then for sure we can put this convo to bed.

I don't think it's realistic either. Flagg is the number 2 prospect to come into the NBA in this decade thus far.

His ceiling is a superstar and even if he doesn't get there I just don't see anyone passing up the opportunity to draft him, except maybe Toronto. You forgot to mention the marketing opportunity Flagg presents. We haven't seen a white American superstar since Bird really.

[mtcan]

Bucks board enamoured with getting Flagg if they have to trade Giannis. Very doubtful any team would trade him for Giannis Imo. The age , control and talent is a lot. Kid is a stud. if wash , utah or char win it then for sure we can put this convo to bed.

I don't think it's realistic either. Flagg is the number 2 prospect to come into the NBA in this decade thus far.

His ceiling is a superstar and even if he doesn't get there I just don't see anyone passing up the opportunity to draft him, except maybe Toronto. You forgot to mention the marketing opportunity Flagg presents. We haven't seen a white American superstar since Bird really.

Ya...the opportunity cost for Giannis...not worth a prospect like Flagg. With Giannis...you may have 5 more years of his prime before his contract starts to be sorta toxic. Flagg improves you now and you have a window with him that is longer than that of Giannis.