Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[Neeva]

I am ready for big changes. I think Connelly needs to take advantage of the dumb GM’s that are stuck in win mode and will be VERY desperate this summer!

Gobert, 31 to Dallas for #10, Lively, Gafford, Filler. Connelly uses Lively’s health concerns to get a lotto pick out of them.
Randle and Conley to Clippers for Bogdanovich,Dunn,filler,#30

Draft Fears or Queen at 10 and Carter Bryant at 17, and a draft and stash at 30(Joan Beringer?)

NAW sign and trade (or trade DDV ) to Orlando for future pick.

If wolves choke in the first round hire a new head coach that is better at developing younger talent.

[younggunsmn]

DDV might be an asset that can bring back a better fit, like a starting caliber PG.

[Neeva]

DDV might be an asset that can bring back a better fit, like a starting caliber PG.

Connely definitely needs to sell high on him, he’s got nice contract and lots of teams like Orlando and Sacramento could really use a guard like him. He’s nice to have off the bench but wolves don’t really need him especially if Clark keeps developing.

[Klomp]

DDV might be an asset that can bring back a better fit, like a starting caliber PG.

Connely definitely needs to sell high on him, he’s got nice contract and lots of teams like Orlando and Sacramento could really use a guard like him. He’s nice to have off the bench but wolves don’t really need him especially if Clark keeps developing.

Definitely need to make sure NAW comes back if you're letting DiVincenzo go

[Note30]

I am ready for big changes. I think Connelly needs to take advantage of the dumb GM’s that are stuck in win mode and will be VERY desperate this summer!

Gobert, 31 to Dallas for #10, Lively, Gafford, Filler. Connelly uses Lively’s health concerns to get a lotto pick out of them.
Randle and Conley to Clippers for Bogdanovich,Dunn,filler,#30

Draft Fears or Queen at 10 and Carter Bryant at 17, and a draft and stash at 30(Joan Beringer?)

NAW sign and trade (or trade DDV ) to Orlando for future pick.

If wolves choke in the first round hire a new head coach that is better at developing younger talent.

You mean like the GMs that took advantage of dumbass TC multiple seasons in a row?

Don't have high hopes. It'll make for an easier summer. Can't be disappointed if you don't have expectations.

[Neeva]

The Kat trade looks bad right now but lets see what Connelly gets for Randle and DDV this off season and who he drafts at 17. Kat’s health pattern means he will likely miss most of next season.

Utah is headed to their fourth straight tank next season and all they have to show for Rudy trade right now is a chucker in Keyonte George and a soon to be overpaid mid starter in league Kessler.

[minimus]

Crazy idea:

ORL IN: Gobert, Cameron Johnson, NAW (separate sing-n-trade)
ORL OUT: Bitadze, KCP, Isaac, 25th 2025 pick, 2027th ORL pick

Why for ORL: complete transformation into defensive minded physical team. Add shooters, shed horrible KCP contract

Gobert/Mo Wagner
Banchero/Carter Jr
Wagner/Da Silva
NAW/Black
Suggs/Colу Anthony

BRO IN: KCP, 25th 2025 pick, 2027th ORL pick
BRO OUT: Cameron Johnson

Why for BRO: keep adding picks

MIN IN: Bitadze, Isaac
MIN OUT: Gobert, NAW

Why for MIN: continue to re-shape roster around Edwards. Draft Nique Clifford and Yaxel Lendeborg

Bitadze/Isaac/Reid
Reid/Lendeborg/Clifford
McDaniels/TJ/Clifford
Edwards/Clark/Clifford
DDV/Dillingham/Conley

[shrink]

I’m not a fan of trading Gobert, but if we could get all that, I’d say yes!

[minimus]

I’m not a fan of trading Gobert, but if we could get all that, I’d say yes!

Ok, without going crazy: NAW (sing-and-trade), 31th 2025 pick for Bitadze, 25th 2025 pick

Why for ORL: they have Mo Wagner, WCJ and Isaaс who can play at C, by adding NAW their improve their backcourt while keeping defensive identity

Why for MIN: get full sized backup bigman on decent contract. Sign-and-trade Randle. Draft Nique Clifford and Yaxel Lendeborg

Gobert/Bitadze/Miller
Reid/Lendeborg/Minott
McDaniels/TJ/Clifford
Edwards/Clark/Clifford
DDV/Dillingham/Conley

So basically minus Randle, NAW, Garza, Ingles, add Bitadze, Lendeborg and Clifford and more minutes for TJ, Clark and Dillingham.

Randle role: offensive minded physical forward, secondary playmaker, post scorer. 18.7PPG, 7.1RPG, 4.7APG, 48-34-80
NAW role: PoA defender, secondary playmaker, 3PT spot-up shooter. 9.4PPG, 3.2RPG, 2.7APG, 44-38-78

Bitadze role: defensive minded classic bigman who can set screens, rebound and pass the ball. 9.1PPG, 8.4RPG, 2.3APG, 61-10-66 (as starter this season)
Lendeborg role: versatile undersized do-it-all bgiman. 17.7PPG, 11.4RPG, 4.2APG, 52-36-76
Clifford role: versatile do-it-all wing. 18.9PPG, 9.6RPG, 4.4APG, 49-38-78

[Neeva]

Rudy and Randle raising their value, you love to see it. Hope NAW gets in on the action next.

Lakers probably wish they had Rudy

[TimberKat]

Rudy and Randle raising their value, you love to see it. Hope NAW gets in on the action next.

Lakers probably wish they had Rudy

Yes, Reaves and Vanderbilt for Gobert

[Neeva]

Rudy and Randle raising their value, you love to see it. Hope NAW gets in on the action next.

Lakers probably wish they had Rudy

Yes, Reaves and Vanderbilt for Gobert

That’s worse than AD for Doncbitch.
Lakers fans are so mad that Reaves pretty much cratered his trade value going up against the wolves defense

[BlacJacMac]

Rudy and Randle raising their value, you love to see it. Hope NAW gets in on the action next.

Lakers probably wish they had Rudy

Yes, Reaves and Vanderbilt for Gobert

Lakers fans think they can get Giannis for that pupu platter.

[KGdaBom]

Rudy and Randle raising their value, you love to see it. Hope NAW gets in on the action next.

Lakers probably wish they had Rudy

Yes, Reaves and Vanderbilt for Gobert

No.

[Norseman79]

Why the drastic changes? Get what you can for Randle (who has been good in playoffs), make sure you sign Naz. Evaluate PG spot and make a decision regarding NAW/Donte and Mike.

In the draft look at a legit center and pf/combo.

Wolf and Kalkbrenner, Essengue and Berringer, etc

PG ????, DD/NAW
SG Edwards, Clark
SF McDaniels, Shannon
PF Reid, Essengue/Wolf
C Gobert, Berringer/Kalkbrenner

[Worm Guts]

Why the drastic changes? Get what you can for Randle (who has been good in playoffs), make sure you sign Naz. Evaluate PG spot and make a decision regarding NAW/Donte and Mike.

In the draft look at a legit center and pf/combo.

Wolf and Kalkbrenner, Essengue and Berringer, etc

PG ????, DD/NAW
SG Edwards, Clark
SF McDaniels, Shannon
PF Reid, Essengue/Wolf
C Gobert, Berringer/Kalkbrenner

If Dillingham isn't going to get the opportunity to work his way into the rotation, I think you have to use him as trade bait before he loses all value.

[jpatrick]

Why the drastic changes? Get what you can for Randle (who has been good in playoffs), make sure you sign Naz. Evaluate PG spot and make a decision regarding NAW/Donte and Mike.

In the draft look at a legit center and pf/combo.

Wolf and Kalkbrenner, Essengue and Berringer, etc

PG ????, DD/NAW
SG Edwards, Clark
SF McDaniels, Shannon
PF Reid, Essengue/Wolf
C Gobert, Berringer/Kalkbrenner

The last 30 games have made me come around on Randle. I have no idea if he’s opting out or not at this point. His option is 30m. If we could replace that with a 3yr/90m extension, I think I’d do it. With the cap going up over the next 3 years, I think that’ll be a bargain if we get current Randle. We need a second high quality shot creator on the team, I don’t think that’s McDaniels or Naz.

Maybe Naz at 20m/year. I’d love to keep NAW but think he is going to be the odd man out.

[frankenwolf]

Why the drastic changes? Get what you can for Randle (who has been good in playoffs), make sure you sign Naz. Evaluate PG spot and make a decision regarding NAW/Donte and Mike.

In the draft look at a legit center and pf/combo.

Wolf and Kalkbrenner, Essengue and Berringer, etc

PG ????, DD/NAW
SG Edwards, Clark
SF McDaniels, Shannon
PF Reid, Essengue/Wolf
C Gobert, Berringer/Kalkbrenner

The last 30 games have made me come around on Randle. I have no idea if he’s opting out or not at this point. His option is 30m. If we could replace that with a 3yr/90m extension, I think I’d do it. With the cap going up over the next 3 years, I think that’ll be a bargain if we get current Randle. We need a second high quality shot creator on the team, I don’t think that’s McDaniels or Naz.

Maybe Naz at 20m/year. I’d love to keep NAW but think he is going to be the odd man out.

I am still not a Randle fan, but I can't deny that he has been pretty good the last 20 games and the playoffs, so I don't mind if the Wolves hang on to him. I agree that NAW is probably gone, but I don't think that will be a big hole as Clark & TSJ can fill that spot. I just hope they draft someone to learn from Rudy on the defensive end and learn from Jokic on the offensive end.

[moss_is_1]

Another huge offseason for Tim Connelly to prove his worth and why he was brought in.

PG: ?? / Dillingham
SG: Ant / Donte / Clark
SF: Jaden / TSJ
PF: Randle(PO)
C: Rudy

Naz and Naw free agents. Randle PO. Conley probably done as a starter. 17/31 draft picks. Maybe have the tax mle?

Probably have to come away with a Pg and a center in some way with minimal assets or contracts.

Free agency - PG
Chris Paul, Tyus Jones, Malcom Brogdon are the most interesting. Paul if he can stay play provides Ant with yet another great mentor and one of the smartest players of his generation to help grow. Jones is a high level backup/spot starter. Brogdon is fantastic, but always hurt so I'm lowest on him.

Combo guards - Luke Kennard, Bruce Brown, De'Anthony Melton.
Really like the idea of Melton if he's healthy. Long, good defender and was great for Memphis a few years ago. Could go under the radar because of his injuries. Kennard can handle and shoot but is horrible on defense. Brown high level role-player, great for Denver when they won, kind of a jack of all trades player who plays really hard.

The draft I think will be the best spot to find a big man. A developmental one behind Rudy would be ideal. I really like Sorber as he has good defensive insticts, and his a lot of untapped offensive skill with his ability to pass and potentially shoot. However not a "twitchy" athlete and he missed a lot of time with a foot injury.
I also am really coming around on Joann Berringer, another french big. Raw but has great athleticism, twitchy, moves great laterally, long wingspan, plays hard. Only been playing basketball for 4 years, could be a huge upside guy.

[minimus]

Another huge offseason for Tim Connelly to prove his worth and why he was brought in.

PG: ?? / Dillingham
SG: Ant / Donte / Clark
SF: Jaden / TSJ
PF: Randle(PO)
C: Rudy

Naz and Naw free agents. Randle PO. Conley probably done as a starter. 17/31 draft picks. Maybe have the tax mle?

Probably have to come away with a Pg and a center in some way with minimal assets or contracts. Some interesting veteran free agent Pg's, also some combo guards that could work.

Naz has a player option too, but he’ll most likely decline it.

As for the MLE — I think there’s a scenario where MIN can duck under the tax line, use the full non-taxpayer MLE, and then re-sign Naz (and maybe even NAW?) using Bird rights. I might be slightly off, but I’m pretty sure there’s a fine margin where a smart front office can make a big difference in how the offseason unfolds.

I still remember how the Lakers completely fumbled the timing, cap mechanics, and pipeline around the AD trade — the details really do matter.

Let’s hope TC gets it done wisely.

https://www.businessinsider.com/lakers-anthony-davis-trade-salary-cap-ramifications-free-agency-2019-6