Official NBA General Discussion 2024-25 V2.0

[Tripod]

If you think he’s the reason they’re gonna lose, you’re either not watching the game or have no idea what you’re watching.

Sengun played the worst game he’s played in the entire series tonight.

lol always blaming someone else. Let’s ignore Fred’s **** offensive performance but blame another low scorer. Advanced stats defense blah blah. My god man between varsho and fvv I swear your favourite players are so underwhelming.

You do realize that FVV isn’t even in the top 2 of Houston’s leading scorers, right? That they are entirely dependent on both Sengun and Green to score in the half court? And that neither one showed up at all?

No, of course you don’t know that because your only agenda here is to bizarrely hate on a player that won a championship for this organization.

Odd because on the Raptors he said he had to be a top 2 option

[Brinbe]

lol got the entire fred experience in one series. and it usually ends like this in the end. again, thank god we don't have to watch this on our team for 80+ games anymore

No, instead we get to watch terrible basketball for years on end (but not too terrible to get a high pick capable of changing the direction of the organization of course, can’t have that)

imagine spending years on a message board just trying to troll and argue nonsense in bad faith. what a sad life

[Boogie!]

Good series.

Experience won out over youth

No it’s more so higher end talent vs team chemistry

[ItsDanger]

Sengun was awful. Got to play better than that if you're given the ball so often.

[Randle McMurphy]

lol got the entire fred experience in one series. and it usually ends like this in the end. again, thank god we don't have to watch this on our team for 80+ games anymore

No, instead we get to watch terrible basketball for years on end (but not too terrible to get a high pick capable of changing the direction of the organization of course, can’t have that)

imagine spending years on a message board just trying to troll and argue nonsense in bad faith. what a sad life

You're right, the Raptors are an incredibly well run franchise going in the right direction. That isn't bad faith nonsense at all.

[Tripod]

Good series.

Experience won out over youth

No it’s more so higher end talent vs team chemistry

Agree with that

[Boogie!]

If you think he’s the reason they’re gonna lose, you’re either not watching the game or have no idea what you’re watching.

Sengun played the worst game he’s played in the entire series tonight.

lol always blaming someone else. Let’s ignore Fred’s **** offensive performance but blame another low scorer. Advanced stats defense blah blah. My god man between varsho and fvv I swear your favourite players are so underwhelming.

You do realize that FVV isn’t even in the top 2 of Houston’s leading scorers, right? That they are entirely dependent on both Sengun and Green to score in the half court? And that neither one showed up at all?

No, of course you don’t know that because your only agenda here is to bizarrely hate on a player that won a championship for this organization.

I’d put that championship more so on kawhi and Lowry.

By your rationale I guess norm and ibaka and Danny green won the championship for the organization I guess. Which also means they’re the ones leading their teams to success?

Maybe fvv can help another team win one coming off the bench.

[Basketball_Jones]

Sengun is a better version of Sabonis but still much of the same weaknesses. He may need to convert his game to taking more 3’s because that ugly post game only works against weak defenders.

[PushDaRock]

Hield basically won this for them by himself. 33 points on 15 shots is going to be too much to overcome for an offensively challenged team like the Rockets.

[Randle McMurphy]

lol always blaming someone else. Let’s ignore Fred’s **** offensive performance but blame another low scorer. Advanced stats defense blah blah. My god man between varsho and fvv I swear your favourite players are so underwhelming.

You do realize that FVV isn’t even in the top 2 of Houston’s leading scorers, right? That they are entirely dependent on both Sengun and Green to score in the half court? And that neither one showed up at all?

No, of course you don’t know that because your only agenda here is to bizarrely hate on a player that won a championship for this organization.

I’d put that championship more so on kawhi and Lowry.

Maybe fvv can help another team win one coming off the bench.

Of course, but the Raptors don't win the 2019 title if FVV isn't on that team. He shot 30/57 from three in the last 9 games of that season while guarding the greatest offensive PG in the history of basketball for most of those.

The fact that this forum regularly goes out of their way to hate on him, a guy who was significantly responsible for winning what will likely be the only Raptors title in our lifetimes, is as much bizarre as it is ridiculous.

[Randle McMurphy]

Sengun is a better version of Sabonis but still much of the same weaknesses. He may need to convert his game to taking more 3’s because that ugly post game only works against weak defenders.

He's a softer version of Sabonis. At least Sabonis pissed Draymond off enough to stomp on him. Sengun didn't bother Draymond whatsoever.

[gp2015]

Houston needs to trade away Green and some other pieces for a real star, while he still has some value.

He'll never be a significant piece of a contending team.

[Boogie!]

You do realize that FVV isn’t even in the top 2 of Houston’s leading scorers, right? That they are entirely dependent on both Sengun and Green to score in the half court? And that neither one showed up at all?

No, of course you don’t know that because your only agenda here is to bizarrely hate on a player that won a championship for this organization.

I’d put that championship more so on kawhi and Lowry.

Maybe fvv can help another team win one coming off the bench.

Of course, but the Raptors don't win the 2019 title if FVV isn't on that team. He shot 30/57 from three in the last 9 games of that season while guarding the greatest offensive PG in the history of basketball for most of those.

The fact that this forum regularly goes out of their way to hate on him, a guy who was significantly responsible for winning what will likely be the only Raptors title in our lifetimes, is as much bizarre as it is ridiculous.

People always go off about how he played in those series without talking about how horrible he was the first two, and him being unplayable almost cost us the 2nd round if it wasn’t for kawhi carrying.

Listen I’ll admit he was great and yes he helped us those last two series. But let’s not act like we would’ve done **** in the playoff if it wasn’t for kawhi. Look what happened the year after…

The problem is him beint expected to be a starter and everyone acting like he’s the reason teams are winning. His numbers are atrocious in a league that’s heavily dependent on scoring the ball. He gets paid max money. He’s just limited and idk why people can’t accept that. I’ve said This before when he was a raptor but I’ve seen better players treated worse. Idk why he always gets a pass. Like if he was prime westbrook or something the analysts would be talking about how he choked and how they needed for from him. But for some reason he never gets the blame for **** performances. No one ever says man fvv needs to step up .

[Basketball_Jones]

Hield basically won this for them by himself. 33 points on 15 shots is going to be too much to overcome for an offensively challenged team like the Rockets.

It’s cool how the Warriors system never relies on ISO ball even in the playoffs. Eventually someone has to get hot, it’s the beauty of it.

[Buff]

ah, we all love Fred, but at the same time... **** Fred, you know?

[Brinbe]

No, instead we get to watch terrible basketball for years on end (but not too terrible to get a high pick capable of changing the direction of the organization of course, can’t have that)

imagine spending years on a message board just trying to troll and argue nonsense in bad faith. what a sad life

You're right, the Raptors are an incredibly well run franchise going in the right direction. That isn't bad faith nonsense at all.

getting your jollies off by playing an online contrarian is the saddest sht imaginable and doesn't fool anyone

[mtcan]

I’d put that championship more so on kawhi and Lowry.

Maybe fvv can help another team win one coming off the bench.

Of course, but the Raptors don't win the 2019 title if FVV isn't on that team. He shot 30/57 from three in the last 9 games of that season while guarding the greatest offensive PG in the history of basketball for most of those.

The fact that this forum regularly goes out of their way to hate on him, a guy who was significantly responsible for winning what will likely be the only Raptors title in our lifetimes, is as much bizarre as it is ridiculous.

People always go off about how he played in those series without talking about how horrible he was the first two, and him being unplayable almost cost us the 2nd round if it wasn’t for kawhi carrying.

Honestly...we should celebrate everyone from that team. Fred made some huge shots against Milwaukee and Golden State.

No need to hate. He's no longer on this team. Leave it at that.

[Randle McMurphy]

I’d put that championship more so on kawhi and Lowry.

Maybe fvv can help another team win one coming off the bench.

Of course, but the Raptors don't win the 2019 title if FVV isn't on that team. He shot 30/57 from three in the last 9 games of that season while guarding the greatest offensive PG in the history of basketball for most of those.

The fact that this forum regularly goes out of their way to hate on him, a guy who was significantly responsible for winning what will likely be the only Raptors title in our lifetimes, is as much bizarre as it is ridiculous.

People always go off about how he played in those series without talking about how horrible he was the first two, and him being unplayable almost cost us the 2nd round if it wasn’t for kawhi carrying.

Irrelevant to my point (and 3/4 of the roster was also unplayable against the 76ers). They don't win either the Bucks series or the Warriors series if FVV is not on the Raptors that season. Consequently, they don't win the championship without FVV. How much does that bother you?

[Randle McMurphy]

imagine spending years on a message board just trying to troll and argue nonsense in bad faith. what a sad life

You're right, the Raptors are an incredibly well run franchise going in the right direction. That isn't bad faith nonsense at all.

getting your jollies off by playing an online contrarian is the saddest sht imaginable and doesn't fool anyone

It's being an online contrarian now to not want to trash one of the guys responsible for winning the only championship this organization is likely ever gonna have now in our lifetimes, eh?

Maybe being an online contrarian ain't so bad then.

[NinjaBro]

FVV helped us win a championship as our 8th best player.