The Brock Purdy Thread

[RIPskaterdude]

I don't want another repeat of Bosa, BA, etc....trade him

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You try to work something out, but if push comes to shove on this one, I wouldn't be afraid to play some hardball with him. He's under contract this year and we can franchise him for two more. $5 million this year, maybe $43 million next year, let's say $50 million the year after that. That's under $100 million for three years with no injury guarantees. Or he can take a deal in the $45 million range. He can hold out, but his play last year gave rise to some legit questions about his ability to elevate the team.

It's probably too late to do this, but I'd consider letting him test the market if we were really at am impasse. Let him talk to other teams. If someone will offer a top-10 pick this year and two more first-round picks, either we trade him or we give him $55 million. If it's one top-16 pick and a first next year, we're down to $50 million. If it's one top-16 pick, we're at $45 million. A 17-32 picks, we're at $40 million. It's not clear to me that there is a huge market for him, but if there is, I would strongly consider letting him walk, loading up on picks, and seeing what we can otherwise pull together at the position.

The problem is, there was a market before, then the Raiders got their QB, along with other QB needing teams. Who else needs a QB?

Steelers? Titans would rather take Ward. Browns? Giants have Wilson and Winston

[clyde21]

If he wants to play hardball he can F off. If that 45m a year number is true that's plenty enough for him, it's even more than I would've offered tbh

[clyde21]

Brock should be careful because Shanny has a thing for Mac Jones, I really don't think he gives a **** if he has to go into the season w/ Mac as the starter.

[Pattersonca65]

If he wants to play hardball he can F off. If that 45m a year number is true that's plenty enough for him, it's even more than I would've offered tbh

That number has been labeled a false story. As Maiocco has recently stated that the team has been very secret about negotiations. There is so much crap floating around social media these days

[Pattersonca65]

These negotiations are never as simple as an annual salary figure as if this just comes down to what he will earn this year. There is also length of contract and how much is guaranteed. Each side wants to get the best deal for their side. I could see the 49ers wanted to get a Jimmy type deal where there isn't a real long commitment. That is how they roll. Can't blame them. In the end I am sure they will come to an agreement.

[CrimsonCrew]

I don't want another repeat of Bosa, BA, etc....trade him

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You try to work something out, but if push comes to shove on this one, I wouldn't be afraid to play some hardball with him. He's under contract this year and we can franchise him for two more. $5 million this year, maybe $43 million next year, let's say $50 million the year after that. That's under $100 million for three years with no injury guarantees. Or he can take a deal in the $45 million range. He can hold out, but his play last year gave rise to some legit questions about his ability to elevate the team.

It's probably too late to do this, but I'd consider letting him test the market if we were really at am impasse. Let him talk to other teams. If someone will offer a top-10 pick this year and two more first-round picks, either we trade him or we give him $55 million. If it's one top-16 pick and a first next year, we're down to $50 million. If it's one top-16 pick, we're at $45 million. A 17-32 picks, we're at $40 million. It's not clear to me that there is a huge market for him, but if there is, I would strongly consider letting him walk, loading up on picks, and seeing what we can otherwise pull together at the position.

The problem is, there was a market before, then the Raiders got their QB, along with other QB needing teams. Who else needs a QB?

Steelers? Titans would rather take Ward. Browns? Giants have Wilson and Winston

That's the point. If there isn't a market, let him see that and then go back to the drawing board. If he's worth over $50 million, teams should be willing to trade multiple first round picks for him. Hell, we did that for an extremely inexperienced college quarterback who had only played at a lower level of competition.

[clyde21]

yea, if Purdy's worth 50+ milly, Giants or Raiders or Steelers would all be lining up to trade multiple firsts for him regardless of whoever they signed this off-season. it's either he's worth it or he's not.

[Jikkle]

This is where the 9ers consistently caving into contract demand kills them.

Not just Purdy but if I'm any star player on the 9ers why would I take any of their early offers when the 9ers have a history of getting worn down and giving players closer to what they want when it becomes critical time.

Yeah it might be a new mentality this time around for the 9ers but if I'm a player I'm going to make you prove it and not just say it.

Now I will say sometimes the 9ers do it to themselves by trying to completely ignore the market and think players are just going to take what the 9ers think they should take.

I always use Bosa as an example because he was coming a season where he led the league in sacks, was DPOY, and plays arguably the most valuable position outside of QB in the game so why would you think he would take anything less than being the highest paid defensive player ever? Pretty much every team would've just given him that money and been done with it early on.

In Purdy's case it's hard to judge because we haven't gotten any confirmation on what the numbers being thrown around are. Are the 9ers lowballing him or is Purdy asking for something unrealistic? Or are they somewhat close to each other and both sides need to find that middle point that they can both live with?

[arich35]

I am not shocked that Purdy/Purdy's agent haven't come to an agreement in April, I think the agent wouldn't be doing his job if he just agrees to an offer in April when it is possible to get more as we get closer to the season. Purdy is still working out/hanging out with Kittle in Nashville, golfing and throwing balls to Pearsall in the off-season. Nothing about Purdy's character or interactions seem like he would willing to hold out for x amount of money.

[Ballerkingn23]

60 million deal coming for Purdy you can book it.

[RIPskaterdude]

60 million deal coming for Purdy you can book it.

That's a pretty good deal if it's over 2 years.

But really, it would be a huge mistake

[Pattersonca65]

60 million deal coming for Purdy you can book it.

That's a pretty good deal if it's over 2 years.

But really, it would be a huge mistake

I really don't buy $60 million. There was a report over the weekend the two sides weren't that far apart. The negotiations were about salary and length of contract. But I have my doubts of these reports. But even listening to Maiocco updates that doesn't sound like a realistic number. Two years $60 probably isn't realistic either based on where salaries have gone and the jump in the salary cap since. We'll see.

[Ballerkingn23]

60 million deal coming for Purdy you can book it.

That's a pretty good deal if it's over 2 years.

But really, it would be a huge mistake

I really don't buy $60 million. There was a report over the weekend the two sides weren't that far apart. The negotiations were about salary and length of contract. But I have my doubts of these reports. But even listening to Maiocco updates that doesn't sound like a realistic number. Two years $60 probably isn't realistic either based on where salaries have gone and the jump in the salary cap since. We'll see.

The 9ers always cave and over pay for players. So I expect the deal to be high 50's and or at 60 million.

[Pattersonca65]

Offensive line moves faster than dline.

[clyde21]

i don't know why this is even a convo right now, why can't we wait until next off-season?

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[Jikkle]

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I normally like this guy's content but I think he swung and missed with this conclusion.

Spent half the video saying the offensive line sucked, running game sucked, receivers couldn't beat man coverage, and Purdy had to rely on throwing low percentage 50/50 balls but he shouldn't get paid because he didn't elevate the team.

I don't know if Purdy is the long-term answer and he did have issues with his play but I don't hold him guilty of the sin of not elevating the team that had plenty of other issues and Purdy's play was one of the least concerning ones IMO.

A great QB needs to elevate the team but like a lot of things in football it just gets taken to the extremes. Like teams that win are usually good teams not just a great QB and a bunch of crap around him.

As the old adage goes the QB gets too much credit when the team wins and too much blame when the team loses.

[Jikkle]

i don't know why this is even a convo right now, why can't we wait until next off-season?

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His agency can't want close to 60 APY but they won't get it.

I don't blame them for asking because if I'm a player I want my agent to get the most for me that they can but with Josh Allen coming off an MVP year and an AFC Championship appearance having an extension that pays him 55 APY Purdy simply doesn't have the leverage to go for close to 60 APY.

50ish APY is just the going rate right now and that's about what I expect him to get I think he'll get 51 or 52 APY.

Not going to get into if he should get paid that because most of those QBs making that kind of money shouldn't be making it but the market is what it is and it's what people are willing to pay not what you should be paid.

[CrimsonCrew]

i don't know why this is even a convo right now, why can't we wait until next off-season?

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His agency can't want close to 60 APY but they won't get it.

I don't blame them for asking because if I'm a player I want my agent to get the most for me that they can but with Josh Allen coming off an MVP year and an AFC Championship appearance having an extension that pays him 55 APY Purdy simply doesn't have the leverage to go for close to 60 APY.

50ish APY is just the going rate right now and that's about what I expect him to get I think he'll get 51 or 52 APY.

Not going to get into if he should get paid that because most of those QBs making that kind of money shouldn't be making it but the market is what it is and it's what people are willing to pay not what you should be paid.

That Allen contract is by far the best thing to have happened to the Niners this offseason outside of (please God) the draft. Purdy would have had a strong argument that he's worth more than Dak. Neither is particularly physically special (though Dak has more arm), but Purdy has done a hell of a lot more in the postseason. But no one is going to argue that he deserves more than Allen. In my view, that puts the ceiling at $55 million/year, and a fair chance they can argue that the Dak contract is an outlier and the market is settling lower.

I still expect at least $50 million at this point, but that's a hell of a lot better than the $60 million that was being floated - by the media and not just Purdy's agent - at the beginning of the offseason.

[clyde21]

not sure why we're going a cent above 45m, but whatever, I guess it'll all be in the details of the deal in terms of guarantees etc.

[CrimsonCrew]

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I normally like this guy's content but I think he swung and missed with this conclusion.

Spent half the video saying the offensive line sucked, running game sucked, receivers couldn't beat man coverage, and Purdy had to rely on throwing low percentage 50/50 balls but he shouldn't get paid because he didn't elevate the team.

I don't know if Purdy is the long-term answer and he did have issues with his play but I don't hold him guilty of the sin of not elevating the team that had plenty of other issues and Purdy's play was one of the least concerning ones IMO.

A great QB needs to elevate the team but like a lot of things in football it just gets taken to the extremes. Like teams that win are usually good teams not just a great QB and a bunch of crap around him.

As the old adage goes the QB gets too much credit when the team wins and too much blame when the team loses.

The skill position players are more than adequate. It's the OL that concerns me. If you're going to pay Purdy, you've got to support him. That means giving him enough protection to get the ball out.

And the OL could look really grim in a year or two. Good chance that Williams, McKivitz, and Brendel (that would actually be great news) will be gone. That's also when the rest of the offense could start looking shaky. Who knows how Aiyuk will rebound from the injury. McCaffrey could be done. Kittle may finally start slowing down. We will have time to replace those guys, but I'm not super confident in this FO's ability to replace a lot of their aging stars.