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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#761 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:53 pm

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Pattersonca65 wrote:49ers sign Humphries. Was injured last season. ACL. Dont expect much but it is a low risk signing so why not

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/dj-humpries-free-agent-contract/1846633/


He tore that ACL the beginning of Jan last year so he'll be just around a year and half removed from it by the time training camp starts so I'd anticipate that injury shouldn't be a factor at this point unless he just never fully recovers from it.

Vet that wasn't some bounced around UDFA and is actually a 1st round talent with plenty of actual game experience so I'll take it. Might be able to push McKivitz for the job and if not he's probably the best we could do as a backup swing tackle. At the very we're not one tackle injury away from having to start a guy that has some tackle experience but shouldn't be anything other than a guard in the NFL.


Yeah, hopefully last year's bad pass-blocking metrics were largely the result of the injury. He's almost certainly our third-best OT from the jump, so I'll take it over what we had. But not holding my breath that he's going to seize a starting gig or upgrade the unit.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#762 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:56 pm

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Pattersonca65 wrote:49ers sign Humphries. Was injured last season. ACL. Dont expect much but it is a low risk signing so why not

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/dj-humpries-free-agent-contract/1846633/


He tore that ACL the beginning of Jan last year so he'll be just around a year and half removed from it by the time training camp starts so I'd anticipate that injury shouldn't be a factor at this point unless he just never fully recovers from it.

Vet that wasn't some bounced around UDFA and is actually a 1st round talent with plenty of actual game experience so I'll take it. Might be able to push McKivitz for the job and if not he's probably the best we could do as a backup swing tackle. At the very we're not one tackle injury away from having to start a guy that has some tackle experience but shouldn't be anything other than a guard in the NFL.


It seems like one of the better swing tackle options, for this season, outside of signing a starting RT in FA and moving McKivitz to the bench or drafting an OT in the 1st or 2nd and hoping you got a McKivitz level player by week 10.

The line will still be decimated with an injury to Trent, much like last year, but that's probably true for any line featuring a highly paid LT. If we went all in on OL in the draft like we did DL, we'd fix that issue and I have a feeling we may do that next year, especially if our DL picks work out. For this year, a solid vet with decent distance between him and his injury is probably as good as we could have hoped for knowing this FO.


My concern is that it's feasible we lose both our starting OTs this offseason. And we really have nothing whatsoever in the wings. We could have been at least trying to groom a player or two, create some legitimate competition at the position. I guess the FO sees veteran castoffs as preferable to UDFA rookies, and maybe they're right about that, but man we're thin at that spot, and I'd really, really prefer not to be forced to reach at the position in next year's draft.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#763 » by vvoland » Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:07 pm

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He tore that ACL the beginning of Jan last year so he'll be just around a year and half removed from it by the time training camp starts so I'd anticipate that injury shouldn't be a factor at this point unless he just never fully recovers from it.

Vet that wasn't some bounced around UDFA and is actually a 1st round talent with plenty of actual game experience so I'll take it. Might be able to push McKivitz for the job and if not he's probably the best we could do as a backup swing tackle. At the very we're not one tackle injury away from having to start a guy that has some tackle experience but shouldn't be anything other than a guard in the NFL.


It seems like one of the better swing tackle options, for this season, outside of signing a starting RT in FA and moving McKivitz to the bench or drafting an OT in the 1st or 2nd and hoping you got a McKivitz level player by week 10.

The line will still be decimated with an injury to Trent, much like last year, but that's probably true for any line featuring a highly paid LT. If we went all in on OL in the draft like we did DL, we'd fix that issue and I have a feeling we may do that next year, especially if our DL picks work out. For this year, a solid vet with decent distance between him and his injury is probably as good as we could have hoped for knowing this FO.


OT is a premium position in the NFL. That is why we have seen OTs go quickly in the draft and why even average free agent OTs get scooped up with big contracts. What you generally get unsigned this time of year are bad tackles. So this signing was worth a shot.



Exactly. Even guards are getting big money in FA these days. It's clear we don't think OL is a premium position group but we may think more of OT than the rest of OL considering our history.

I hope he's healthy/good enough to push McKivitz
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#764 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri May 2, 2025 9:21 pm

Niners re-signed Ross Dwelley. Yay....

I'm fine with the move, but there were several interesting TEs who didn't get drafted. Why not go after one of them? You can still add Dwelley.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#765 » by Samurai » Fri May 2, 2025 11:35 pm

Dwelley has never been a 'move the needle' guy for me on offense, but seeing as how we didn't draft any TE's, I have to assume that ShanaLynch wasn't thrilled with any TE's in the draft. Since Dwelley is at least someone familiar with our system, that's a plus.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#766 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri May 2, 2025 11:48 pm

Samurai wrote:Dwelley has never been a 'move the needle' guy for me on offense, but seeing as how we didn't draft any TE's, I have to assume that ShanaLynch wasn't thrilled with any TE's in the draft. Since Dwelley is at least someone familiar with our system, that's a plus.


I'm still extremely salty that they kept Tonges and cut Kingston and Schrader. There is no doubt Tonges would have made it to the PS. Why not at least take a shot on a new guy to try to upgrade the position?
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#767 » by Jikkle » Mon May 5, 2025 12:29 am

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/190808-turned-2nd-round-george-kittle-extension/

Normally I'm onboard with trading a player a year early and to get value while you can but in this case I'm glad they got the extension done.

Kittle's still playing at a high level and I'm of the belief that this team can make another legit run in 2026. So I think Kittle can still play a huge part in a potential SB run.

And while I'm not a huge on the whole "how will this impact the locker room" guy I will say Kittle is pretty unique in the energy he brings to a team.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#768 » by Jikkle » Mon May 5, 2025 12:51 am

I'll be interested in seeing what adjustments if any Shanahan makes this offseason.

I did feel defenses caught up not just with Shanahan but that Shanahan scheme in general since the teams that ran it seemed like they were down on offense compared to last season.

I felt like that went under the radar and to me the two big issues off the top of my head were defenses used our protections against us and the bootleg game was completely hard countered because they'd just have the DE chase the QB no matter what.

Not saying we need a massive overhaul in scheme because we still had a lot of issues simply due to the personnel but Shanahan is still going to need to spend more time in the lab than a usual offseason coming up with some counters.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#769 » by clyde21 » Mon May 5, 2025 3:26 am

Jikkle wrote:https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/190808-turned-2nd-round-george-kittle-extension/

Normally I'm onboard with trading a player a year early and to get value while you can but in this case I'm glad they got the extension done.

Kittle's still playing at a high level and I'm of the belief that this team can make another legit run in 2026. So I think Kittle can still play a huge part in a potential SB run.

And while I'm not a huge on the whole "how will this impact the locker room" guy I will say Kittle is pretty unique in the energy he brings to a team.


Kittle is just not one of the players you trade

Bosa might be in a situation where our front seven wasn't completely devoid of talent
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#770 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon May 5, 2025 4:53 pm

Jikkle wrote:I'll be interested in seeing what adjustments if any Shanahan makes this offseason.

I did feel defenses caught up not just with Shanahan but that Shanahan scheme in general since the teams that ran it seemed like they were down on offense compared to last season.

I felt like that went under the radar and to me the two big issues off the top of my head were defenses used our protections against us and the bootleg game was completely hard countered because they'd just have the DE chase the QB no matter what.

Not saying we need a massive overhaul in scheme because we still had a lot of issues simply due to the personnel but Shanahan is still going to need to spend more time in the lab than a usual offseason coming up with some counters.


Shanahan has been leaning into more drop-back passing concepts with Purdy instead of Garoppolo. That's fine in theory. I think Purdy is much better-able to execute that sort of gameplan than Jimmy was. But if we're going to do that, we need a better OL to give him time to get through his reads. And we need a more nuanced passing game. Shanahan is as good as it gets drawing up play-action concepts. But his drop-back plays just aren't on the same level. Hopefully he has the humility to see that (the failure to address Brendel at center does not give me confidence on larger self-awareness here) and really reinvent that aspect of the offense in particular.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#771 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon May 5, 2025 6:22 pm

I was thinking about the LG spot recently, and it seems like people are overlooking Spencer Burford. There are plenty of reasons to doubt Burford. He wasn't great as a starter, and he was responsible for blowing the block on Chris Jones that arguably cost us the SB. That said, Burford is a really talented guy with long arms, good size, and good movement skills. It seems like his biggest struggles in his first two seasons were primarily mental.

Burford lost his job at RG to Puni last year largely due to injury - though clearly Puni should have been the starter. But I think LG could be a better spot for him (he ended his college career at LT, but had 20+ starts at LG before that), and hopefully the year on the bench allowed him to get a better handle on the scheme and his assignments. Bartch started over Burford last year when Banks went down, but I don't think he's in any way guaranteed to start over him with a full offseason to try Burford at that spot. Something to keep an eye on.

Honestly, I would feel okay (for this year, anyway) about a starting OL group of Williams - Burford - Zakelj - Puni - McKivitz.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#772 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon May 5, 2025 10:17 pm

A few things have come up recently that have really caused me to question the FO's decision-making. First, the relative reaches in the draft (what's new?), but more so Shanahan's explanation for taking Jordan Watkins. He talked about the dude's combine workout first. WTF? The gauntlet drill? Seriously? How about his film?

Then there's this clip, where John Lynch basically admits to being...is puppet too strong? WTF? Just doesn't seem like anyone is reining in Kyle's worst impulses at all. Granted I liked the Cowing pick, though based on our draft this year he's very much on the roster bubble. Might have been nice to get him a little more playing time when our goose was cooked last year.

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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#773 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon May 5, 2025 11:01 pm

Drake Jackson posted on Instagram that he's coming back and going to prove all the haters wrong. I would absolutely love to see that happen. Not holding my breath, but if he could provide any impact at all as a primary pass-rushing DE, it would be huge for this team.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#774 » by Jikkle » Mon May 5, 2025 11:20 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Drake Jackson posted on Instagram that he's coming back and going to prove all the haters wrong. I would absolutely love to see that happen. Not holding my breath, but if he could provide any impact at all as a primary pass-rushing DE, it would be huge for this team.


I hope he does too because call it being an overly positive fan but I thought he had the potential to be a good pass rushing DE once they polished him up and got him at the right playing weight.

Also I'm huge on having a rotation up front so if he could rotate with Bosa and Williams to give them a blow it would be huge. Especially Bosa who takes too many snaps especially compared to other pass rushers in the league.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#775 » by Jikkle » Mon May 5, 2025 11:31 pm

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Jikkle wrote:I'll be interested in seeing what adjustments if any Shanahan makes this offseason.

I did feel defenses caught up not just with Shanahan but that Shanahan scheme in general since the teams that ran it seemed like they were down on offense compared to last season.

I felt like that went under the radar and to me the two big issues off the top of my head were defenses used our protections against us and the bootleg game was completely hard countered because they'd just have the DE chase the QB no matter what.

Not saying we need a massive overhaul in scheme because we still had a lot of issues simply due to the personnel but Shanahan is still going to need to spend more time in the lab than a usual offseason coming up with some counters.


Shanahan has been leaning into more drop-back passing concepts with Purdy instead of Garoppolo. That's fine in theory. I think Purdy is much better-able to execute that sort of gameplan than Jimmy was. But if we're going to do that, we need a better OL to give him time to get through his reads. And we need a more nuanced passing game. Shanahan is as good as it gets drawing up play-action concepts. But his drop-back plays just aren't on the same level. Hopefully he has the humility to see that (the failure to address Brendel at center does not give me confidence on larger self-awareness here) and really reinvent that aspect of the offense in particular.


The roster would need some work for a pass heavy offense to work which is why it was such a mixed bag last year.

Offensive line is a given since outside of Trent and Puni everyone else is designed to thrive in getting to the 2nd level in the running game.

But we would need the weapons to be tweaked as well. I feel it's overlooked but a large problem last season wasn't that we didn't have weapons we just had too many of the same kind. On paper it sounds like Kittle, Deebo, Jennings, and Juice are a lot to work with but they are all slow, big possession type of receivers.

For me in a perfect world Watkins and/or Cowling would be your speedy take the top off of defense guys. Aiyuk and Pearsall being your more traditional shifty WR types. With Jenning and Kittle being your big-bodied possession receivers with Jucie being off the field in obvious passing situations.

Ultimately I don't think it matters who is at QB with the way Kyle has constructed this offense it has to be good at running the ball to thrive. What Kyle needs to figure out is cleaning up the protection upfront and making sure guys are blocking who they should be blocking and countering the counters that defenses have had against some of our staple plays like throwing down the middle and bootlegs.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#776 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri May 9, 2025 6:24 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Drake Jackson posted on Instagram that he's coming back and going to prove all the haters wrong. I would absolutely love to see that happen. Not holding my breath, but if he could provide any impact at all as a primary pass-rushing DE, it would be huge for this team.

If the 49ers get anything out of Jackson great, but I have no expectations they will.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#777 » by Jikkle » Fri May 9, 2025 9:27 am

Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Drake Jackson posted on Instagram that he's coming back and going to prove all the haters wrong. I would absolutely love to see that happen. Not holding my breath, but if he could provide any impact at all as a primary pass-rushing DE, it would be huge for this team.

If the 49ers get anything out of Jackson great, but I have no expectations they will.


Lynch a while ago didn't seem really positive on Drake so he might be healthy enough to play but never the same guy.

My hope is he can at least manage enough quality snaps to shave down Bosa's snaps especially early in a game so Bosa has the juice to close out games in the 4th.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#778 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri May 9, 2025 3:33 pm

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Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Drake Jackson posted on Instagram that he's coming back and going to prove all the haters wrong. I would absolutely love to see that happen. Not holding my breath, but if he could provide any impact at all as a primary pass-rushing DE, it would be huge for this team.

If the 49ers get anything out of Jackson great, but I have no expectations they will.


Lynch a while ago didn't seem really positive on Drake so he might be healthy enough to play but never the same guy.

My hope is he can at least manage enough quality snaps to shave down Bosa's snaps especially early in a game so Bosa has the juice to close out games in the 4th.


Hopefully he can actually get on the field and play some snaps. Of course, he is going to talk a good game. What else can he say? I can understand him saying those things as a motivated player.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#779 » by Jikkle » Fri May 9, 2025 7:29 pm

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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#780 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri May 9, 2025 7:47 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Drake Jackson posted on Instagram that he's coming back and going to prove all the haters wrong. I would absolutely love to see that happen. Not holding my breath, but if he could provide any impact at all as a primary pass-rushing DE, it would be huge for this team.


LOL, that didn't age well. The 49ers just waived Jackson.

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