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Post#21 » by G R E Y » Sat May 3, 2025 2:40 am

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What's Wemby going to say? No?

He's not going to be a bad guy and say it. If he thinks Johnson is a good coach he just doesn't know any better.

I mean, he's been with the Spurs since 2016 in all levels, working his way up. Now he gets to prepare from the start, and has support broadly within the organization and with the players.

Think of it from PATFO's POV - would this decision have been made if Wemby didn't think it right? If PATFO didn't think it was right short and long term, given the new arena and roster changes surely coming up?

I really do wish that Pop could have gotten a chance to oversee the rise after guiding the team through a very trying rebuild; he deserved it. But his path is now to guide the Spurs as POBO. Who knows why of the weird timing of things.

But if Mitch has the full faith of the organization, this with several more experienced options available, and of the Spurs coaching tree, it should be pause for thought for fans.

Mitch gets to run the team in his way, less with Pop cussing phone calls lol, who was still overseeing things as coach from behind the scenes this past season. He gets tp grow with a young team, backed by Pop and Wemby and really the rest of the players. That is a powerful endorsement. And he's only 38. With good qualities and values and long tutelage in The Spurs Way. Let's see what he brings and how he develops and helps shape the team, contributing more of his learning in our culture.

He has all the right guidance along the way.


Meh, I dont know. Johnson is not a good head coach. Looking at it from the team's prospective I guess it wouldnt look that good if they just hired a real coach over his head so we were stuck either way.

Im depressed because odds are now much better that we are going to suck for the most part for the next two years. Hopefully Wemby doesn't decide to walk before that. Maybe if the FO can make a trade for a real game changer we could overcome the poor rotations and coaching decisions so we could get better.

I dont hate Mitch as a person but honestly he is not going out-coach anyone in this league (except Jason Kidd maybe) :lol:

I dont think anyone needs a history lesson. One of the things that made us soo successful for soo long was that Pop learned to out-coach teams. That is long gone now. I would actually feel better about it if Brett Brown was given the job.

Yeah look it's a very emotional day and the bang bang of the news, so monumental and presented so matter of fact and quickly, obviously points to a considered decision already chosen. Like it's a done deal so what's the point of like not even giving him a chance? I'll still watch and support the team, bittersweet though it will be.

We've agreed throughout the season about Mitch's decisions and inexperience. Of course he could have benefitted from another season of seasoning under Pop, and from all accounts from Pop himself the intent was to return but obviously he was regrettably not in a position to.

So that leaves us with a plethora of options from the Pop coaching tree. Bud was never going to an option. It would be awkward also should we happen to acquire Giannis. Jenkins underplayed his star. Malone underplayed youth and somehow yelled too much.

Sure Pop outcoached opponents in the POs. And he came into the league already seasoned with some college experience. Mitch will have a steep learning curve and impossible shoes to fill but he will also have the best support system to lean on. We are going with someone who can grow with the team long term rather than, say, a BB who would not be here as long. If Mitch absolutely sucks and more crucially somehow Wemby sours on him, I can see changes made. But until then, this is where we are. It's where we'd be in a year or two from now. Just wish Pop could have had a chance at playoffs again but he's guided the team to being there again. What a **** lot. Life's funny and a bitch and bittersweet and sweet.
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Post#28 » by imagump1313 » Sat May 3, 2025 7:02 pm

G R E Y wrote:Like it's a done deal so what's the point of like not even giving him a chance? I'll still watch and support the team, bittersweet though it will be.


Guy had a whole season of chance. He was horrible and totally in over his head. Are we going to waste two or three more seasons now just to be nice?

There is going to come a point where we have pressure to be good. Im already past that point. Im done with the mistakes, im done with the poor rotations, im done with lack of accountability and im done with his aww shucks attitude. Go win some games or GTFO.

It doesnt matter who's shoes you're filling if you win games. He doesn't have any of Pop's players, we havent been in the playoffs for what? 6 years now? There are no shoes to fill. Go win effing games.

I'm not shocked about Pop, we all knew it was coming. I'm surprised he stayed this long. Honestly, as much as I love the guy, it was time for him to go. You could tell he lost that fire 2-3 years ago.
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Post#29 » by G R E Y » Sat May 3, 2025 7:30 pm

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G R E Y wrote:Like it's a done deal so what's the point of like not even giving him a chance? I'll still watch and support the team, bittersweet though it will be.


Guy had a whole season of chance. He was horrible and totally in over his head. Are we going to waste two or three more seasons now just to be nice?

There is going to come a point where we have pressure to be good. Im already past that point. Im done with the mistakes, im done with the poor rotations, im done with lack of accountability and im done with his aww shucks attitude. Go win some games or GTFO.

It doesnt matter who's shoes you're filling if you win games. He doesn't have any of Pop's players, we havent been in the playoffs for what? 6 years now? There are no shoes to fill. Go win effing games.

I'm not shocked about Pop, we all knew it was coming. I'm surprised he stayed this long. Honestly, as much as I love the guy, it was time for him to go. You could tell he lost that fire 2-3 years ago.

Disagree about the last part. His passion for the game and competitiveness hadn't waned, but you have to have different expectations in a rebuild. Different measures for success when there's a lot of losing. That's why it sucks Pop can't be coaching for the upswing he helped ser up. The conspiracy theorist square in my brain thought that somebody might have slipped him something to get sick. It's a sick thought. But there's no way Pop would have walked away otherwise sooner than planned. Players have talked about seeing him working out in rehab, getting there before them. He tried hard but life put him on this path now. And so he shepherds as POBO.

Nobody better to get us through a hard rebuild, and it frankly spared us and shielded a potentially younger coach had Pop stepped away sooner from a ton of flack. Instead, we were rewarded for our patience in taking advantage of trades, shedding cap space, and stocking up the cupboard with rons of picks.

And the same patient approach to the rebuild and to developing players on and off the court applies to staff.

We will have a healthy Wemby and Fox rather than CP3 starting. That alone gets us to 40 wins. I agree the time for winning is at hand. I'm curious to see how we fill out the roster to surround Wemby with better shooters. Our team needs are for another thread but they're known. Mitch has a season's worth of experiments and hard lessons. He has Pop's Rolodex of plays at his disposal, surely. He has a ton of experience to lean on. And he'll have a better roster to start with, our best in the last any of the seasons you mentioned. He gets to grow in his position with a lot of player talent that covers a lot margin for error given the raised floor and ceiling.

Let's see how things go...
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Coach,

I don’t think I can ever say thank you enough.

Thank you for everything you did for basketball, the impact you had on the game and on the city of San Antonio.

Thank you for your personality, your competitiveness and your dedication. It was an absolute honor to be a part of your 29 years head coach journey, and I know that you will keep inspiring everybody around you in this new adventure.

I wish you nothing but peace, happiness and fulfillment in your next chapter.

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Pop has been involved in Shoes That Fit for a long time.

https://www.nba.com/spurs/popovich-spurs-donate-shoes-fit

Not sure if Shaq getting a pair was part of this, but anyway, it's part of a whole decades-long off court community involvement where Pop had made and continues to make a huge positive impact.
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Post#32 » by G R E Y » Mon May 5, 2025 3:30 pm

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Post#35 » by G R E Y » Mon May 5, 2025 11:47 pm

So well put, Don, thank you...

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Post#36 » by G R E Y » Tue May 6, 2025 3:17 pm

Another good read, with some depe background info. Turns out Pop came with the fire baked in:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45011012/inside-gregg-popovich-unparalleled-nba-legacy-san-antonio-spurs
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