Hawks 2025 Offseason Thread

[Rebound Mound]

i did not know it, but he resigned for 5 years on May 2024.

[HMFFL]

Atlanta Hawk killer Andre Drummond $5m player option


Andre Drummond has averaged 14.4 points, 13.6 rebounds and 1.4 steals in 39 games versus the Hawks in his career.




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[HMFFL]

Bol Bol is a realistic get

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[Rebound Mound]

Bol Bol is a realistic get

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I love Ball Ball. He can play, he can score 20+ in any night on shots and create shots for the rest of the team. But he is a SF with a combo guard heart at 7-3.

[Jamaaliver]

Bol Bol is a realistic get

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I love Ball Ball. He can play, he can score 20+ in any night on shots and create shots for the rest of the team. But he is a SF with a combo guard heart at 7-3.

My facial expression -- every time I see Bol Bol play basketball.

Spoiler:

[Rebound Mound]

Bol Bol is a realistic get

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I love Ball Ball. He can play, he can score 20+ in any night on shots and create shots for the rest of the team. But he is a SF with a combo guard heart at 7-3.

My facial expression -- every time I see Bol Bol play basketball.

Spoiler:

Besides the Hawks, I also like the Suns, although I have to say that the Hawks franchise and my love for those Hawks teams with Nique and his guys made the Hawks the most loved team...
But I have seen Ball Ball play this year like 15 games. The first stretch was quite ok for him, but he was a disaster defensively. Then, after a few weeks with no laying time, he came back as a good offensive player, but he approached his defensive duties with a much different strategy, realizing for the first time in his career that he is 7-3, probably with a 7-8 wingspan and that he can be 10 feet from someone and still affect his shots or the way the other player sees the court and looks for options...

He is a guys who can easily get 20 a game while not being a problem back there, and he also can offer some rebounding, intimidation and creation.

[Jamaaliver]

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[HMFFL]

Bol Bol is a realistic get

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I love Ball Ball. He can play, he can score 20+ in any night on shots and create shots for the rest of the team. But he is a SF with a combo guard heart at 7-3.

My facial expression -- every time I see Bol Bol play basketball.

Spoiler:

I can be the same watching him play but he cost $2.4m last season. I can think of some deadweight on our payroll that made much more.

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[Jamaaliver]

NBA Free Agency Targets in 2025 Offseason

Charlotte Hornets Guard Seth Curry

Spoiler:

Trae Young has two capable running mates in Jalen Johnson and Terance Mann. However, the team's offense is devoid of three-point shooting outside of their All-Star. In their play-in games against the Magic and Heat, the point guard was hounded. When he gave the ball up, the offense faltered. While Seth Curry isn't the playmaker that would help solve that problem, his value comes with his outside shooting.

Young generates more open three-pointers for his teammates than almost any other player in the NBA. Curry's 45.6% shooting from three makes him an ideal role player to have come off the bench. While the team expects growth from Risacher and Johnson as ball handlers and secondary playmakers, Curry would help space the floor, opening up windows for his teammates.

The 34-year-old guard isn't the same player he was when he was with the Dallas Mavericks and Philadelphia 76ers. However, he is a veteran presence who provides both on the court and in the locker room. That, combined with the fact that Curry isn't projected to receive a very big payday this summer, makes him a perfect fit.

Memphis Grizzlies Center Marvin Bagley III

Spoiler:

Marvin Bagley III's career is a far cry from what people expected when he was drafted. The former Duke Blue Devil bounced around the league and struggled to fit in anywhere. However, he finished the season strong, especially in their first-round playoff series against the Oklahoma City Thunder. When he received playing time from interim head coach Tuomas Iisalo, Bagley III showed out, grabbing offensive rebounds and scoring with confidence around the rim.

The Hawks have an extreme drop-off when it comes to their centers. Right now, Okongwu's backup is Dominick Barlow, who struggled throughout the 35 games he played this season. Bringing in Bagley III gives Atlanta a talented offensive player to come off their bench alongside Terance Mann. As a pick-and-roll partner for Young, he provides a vertical threat outside of Okongwu.

Bagley III is an unrestricted free agent whose market is intriguing. The teams looking for a backup center will be calling, including the Los Angeles Lakers and Denver Nuggets. He is a player who could push a team up over the top without costing them too much of their cap space.

Los Angeles Clippers Forward Ben Simmons

Spoiler:

After being the No. 1 overall pick back in 2016, Ben Simmons' career is a story that might finally be coming full circle. Simmons made three All-Star appearances and two All-Defensive Team selections before falling to Young and the Hawks in the 2021 Eastern conference semifinals. After that, Simmons began a long road back from mental blocks and back injuries that sent him to Brooklyn and eventually the Clippers via the buyout market.

With the Clippers, Simmons struggled to settle into his team offensively, but helped give the team a defensive presence behind Ivica Zubac. At this point in his career, it is unrealistic to expect any significant contributions from Simmons, but he is capable of providing playmaking and defense in a smaller role.

Simmons' market in free agency is full of contenders that would be looking to sign him on a smaller deal. However, the Hawks can offer him what would essentially be their backup point guard role, depending on what happens in the 2025 NBA Draft. Simmons might not be what he once was, but teams feel that he has done enough to earn himself another chance in a more significant role.

Clutch Points

[Jamaaliver]

Jalen excels at these types of plays.

Hawks could use another player capable of putting pressure on the defense in transition after the defensive rebound.

(Trae and Zacch have shown some ability, but neither is a threat to finish at the rim.)

[HMFFL]

NBA Free Agency Targets in 2025 Offseason

Charlotte Hornets Guard Seth Curry

Spoiler:

Trae Young has two capable running mates in Jalen Johnson and Terance Mann. However, the team's offense is devoid of three-point shooting outside of their All-Star. In their play-in games against the Magic and Heat, the point guard was hounded. When he gave the ball up, the offense faltered. While Seth Curry isn't the playmaker that would help solve that problem, his value comes with his outside shooting.

Young generates more open three-pointers for his teammates than almost any other player in the NBA. Curry's 45.6% shooting from three makes him an ideal role player to have come off the bench. While the team expects growth from Risacher and Johnson as ball handlers and secondary playmakers, Curry would help space the floor, opening up windows for his teammates.

The 34-year-old guard isn't the same player he was when he was with the Dallas Mavericks and Philadelphia 76ers. However, he is a veteran presence who provides both on the court and in the locker room. That, combined with the fact that Curry isn't projected to receive a very big payday this summer, makes him a perfect fit.

Memphis Grizzlies Center Marvin Bagley III

Spoiler:

Marvin Bagley III's career is a far cry from what people expected when he was drafted. The former Duke Blue Devil bounced around the league and struggled to fit in anywhere. However, he finished the season strong, especially in their first-round playoff series against the Oklahoma City Thunder. When he received playing time from interim head coach Tuomas Iisalo, Bagley III showed out, grabbing offensive rebounds and scoring with confidence around the rim.

The Hawks have an extreme drop-off when it comes to their centers. Right now, Okongwu's backup is Dominick Barlow, who struggled throughout the 35 games he played this season. Bringing in Bagley III gives Atlanta a talented offensive player to come off their bench alongside Terance Mann. As a pick-and-roll partner for Young, he provides a vertical threat outside of Okongwu.

Bagley III is an unrestricted free agent whose market is intriguing. The teams looking for a backup center will be calling, including the Los Angeles Lakers and Denver Nuggets. He is a player who could push a team up over the top without costing them too much of their cap space.

Los Angeles Clippers Forward Ben Simmons

Spoiler:

After being the No. 1 overall pick back in 2016, Ben Simmons' career is a story that might finally be coming full circle. Simmons made three All-Star appearances and two All-Defensive Team selections before falling to Young and the Hawks in the 2021 Eastern conference semifinals. After that, Simmons began a long road back from mental blocks and back injuries that sent him to Brooklyn and eventually the Clippers via the buyout market.

With the Clippers, Simmons struggled to settle into his team offensively, but helped give the team a defensive presence behind Ivica Zubac. At this point in his career, it is unrealistic to expect any significant contributions from Simmons, but he is capable of providing playmaking and defense in a smaller role.

Simmons' market in free agency is full of contenders that would be looking to sign him on a smaller deal. However, the Hawks can offer him what would essentially be their backup point guard role, depending on what happens in the 2025 NBA Draft. Simmons might not be what he once was, but teams feel that he has done enough to earn himself another chance in a more significant role.

Clutch Points

I will take Seth. He lives in Charlotte so he sgays close to home and makes 3-pointers for us kff the bench at 40%. Win-win

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[HMFFL]

Al Horford is going to have one foot in retirement after this series against KAT and the Knicks. He's outmatched and not what he once was.

Boston will lose this series, not because of being down 0-2, but because they have NO center help.

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[HMFFL]

Which team will Clint Capela sign with?

It appears Boston needs a center and plenty of other title contenders need our "garabge".

I predict we end up regretting it once he leaves. Hey, let's get smaller, and get younger.

[HMFFL]

Hawks need consistent 3 point shooters.

Trae Young made 218 and Zaccharie Risacher made 122.

We need a couple more players that can make over 100 a season.




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[Rebound Mound]

Hawks need consistent 3 point shooters.

Trae Young made 218 and Zaccharie Risacher made 122.

We need a couple more players that can make over 100 a season.




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Shooters who are also good players, I guess you mean.
Matthews and Krejci are good shooters.
But the rest of their games are controversial. Matthews is just a shooter (a hell of a shooter) and Krejci could offer more, but it was a pity that he went down with that injury when he was in such a high point of shape.

[Geaux_Hawks]

Hawks need consistent 3 point shooters.

Trae Young made 218 and Zaccharie Risacher made 122.

We need a couple more players that can make over 100 a season.




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Shooters who are also good players, I guess you mean.
Matthews and Krejci are good shooters.
But the rest of their games are controversial. Matthews is just a shooter (a hell of a shooter) and Krejci could offer more, but it was a pity that he went down with that injury when he was in such a high point of shape.

I actually have no problem with Vit given his upside is career bench guy. He just needs to continue developing offensively. He's a plus on defense.

[HMFFL]

Hawks need consistent 3 point shooters.

Trae Young made 218 and Zaccharie Risacher made 122.

We need a couple more players that can make over 100 a season.




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Shooters who are also good players, I guess you mean.
Matthews and Krejci are good shooters.
But the rest of their games are controversial. Matthews is just a shooter (a hell of a shooter) and Krejci could offer more, but it was a pity that he went down with that injury when he was in such a high point of shape.

Some condolating is in order. Quin seems to think he can have 8 players attempt 10 or more shots per game. Not happening.

Vit Krejci is a keeper. Give him 8 attempts per game.

Garrison Mathewscan can go or be extended for cheap. He doesn't need to have as many attempts as Vit and he basically needs to sit at the end of our bench.

Orlando and Miami are probably the only teams that made the playoffs with two players that made 100 three pointers or more. Like us, they need to fix this area of their team.

I want a minimum of four players on the team that make 100 or more three pointers per season. Trae Young, Zaccharie Risacher, Dyson Daniels, and Vit Krejci are the four players.

[Rebound Mound]

I agree with Krejci and Matthews remaining with us. I like their games, to some extent, and I like their implication, approach to the game and general attitude. While Matthews is a much limited player in what he can offer (at least, for what we have seen), Krejci has a lot of room to grow and I believe he can score more but, especially, he can be some kind of an offensive creator, acting as a 6-8 PG who can cause problems to the defense. He is especially effective when Trae is on the bench and he can operate with another big guard, so the defense has to choose its poison.

We should not forget that we have one of the best shooters in the league (if not the best) in Niang, who has a lot of limitations, but who can score in particular stretches of matches. He is a luxury when playing against second units of other teams. The problem with Niang lies, IMO, in that the rest of the PFs we have have great deficiencies in what they can offer now. Johnson lacks weight and some overall post presence. Gueye is completely raw. If those guys could offer a bigger physical presence in the post, then Niang would not be such a difficult element to make use of. The key is that that second/third PF in the roster has to make up for some of the things the other two cannot offer.

I also love Nance as a stretch C or strong PF. In fact, I love all the guys we had last season. I would not get rid of any, including LeVert and Mann, but I understand we need a couple of new guys and improvement on Gueye, JJ, Risacher, OO and others to have a better situation to reach a new leve.

[Jamaaliver]

Hawks need to add shooters...
Jase Richardson - Lauri Markkanen - Klay Thompson - Kyle Anderson

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[Jamaaliver]

This is a really good point.

Adding supporting young players will only take us so far...

Are we ready to include Zacch Risacher, Onyeka Okongwu or...Jalen Johnson in trade talks for an established star?

:D

Hawks need a great player or two. There are too many really good Hawks and not enough great Hawks.

Do we have any player listed in the top ten in his position? Probably not. Trae didn't make it.
Consolidate!!