2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 6

[mtcan]

Nets will likely hone in on Tre Johnson imo. They need some semblance of an offensive player to build around.

Between Cam Thomas and Tre Johnson...there aren't enough possessions to go around.

[MEDIC]

The biggest question I have is how muc of an upgrade he is to Dick. Personally he isnt an upgrade, not even on the defensive end.

Personally, I think.he is going to be a much better player than GD on both sides of the floor. I also think he has a much more.diverse game than GD.

Kon is just much more crafty, has a better handle, better court vision & is a much more.physical & assertive player. His mix of footwork, strength, physicality, assertiveness & timing allow him to get to spots on the floor that GD can't get to.

I.also think he will be a much more reliable shooter.

Stats wise, Knueppel is not a better 3 point shooter than Dick in college. Dick is a better shooter in terms of being a movement shooter or pull up shooter, Knueppel is not even close in those aspects.

Knueppel has better things better than Dick, such as passing. However, many of the things Knueppel is doing may not translate to the NBA.

As for defense, that is not true, he is worse than Dick. Duke was switching around, and Knueppel switched to guard power forward, but that would not be the case in the NBA. He basically doesn't have a defensive position on defense.

You are better off with Walter than Knueppel, and Dick is just a better shooter, not just a spot up shooter like Knueppel (Knueppel pull up 3 is 25% with 12 attempts out of his 200 3s).

I like.Walter & can't argue with that.

Kon may or may not translate to.the NBA. This is true. Having said that; Gradeys game hasn't translated very well.at this point either.

As far as shooting stroke goes, the eye test tells me.that Kon's form will be more reliable. It's very repeatable.

People.keep talking about Gradey being a movement shooter, but so far he hasn't been a reliable.one. Gary Trent has been a much better NBA player. Is GTJ Gradey's ceiling?

I want the best for Gradey, but he has a long way to go & a lot to prove.

[Basketball_Jones]

Nets will likely hone in on Tre Johnson imo. They need some semblance of an offensive player to build around.

Between Cam Thomas and Tre Johnson...there aren't enough possessions to go around.

I don’t think they care about Cam Thomas really

[grant101]

Nets will likely hone in on Tre Johnson imo. They need some semblance of an offensive player to build around.

Between Cam Thomas and Tre Johnson...there aren't enough possessions to go around.

I don’t think they care about Cam Thomas really

He may be their best asset tho. In any case, handing the reigns to Tre and running your offence through him seems like a horrible idea and a bad situation for Tre (and I say this as a Tre Johnson believer). I would go point guard or Center if I was the Nets and failed to move up.

[dohboy_24]

PG - D-Russ - Reece Beekman
SG - Cam Thomas - Keon Johnson
SF - Cam Johnson - Ziaire Williams
PF - Trendon Watford - Tosan Evbuomwan
C - Nic Claxton - Day'Ron Sharpe

Considering that lineup, the biggest need is length/height - especially in the frontcourt.

If Brooklyn stays at #6 after the draft lottery, I wouldn't be surprised if Derik Queen, Khaman Malauch, Collin Murray-Boyles, and possibly even Asa Newell are ranked ahead of guards/wings like Tre Johnson, Jeremiah Fears, Kon Knueppel, Jase Richardson, and Kaspars Jakucionis,

[Mark_83]

My personal board for pick 7:

Flagg
Harper
Edgecombe
Bailey
Johnson
Bryant
Flemming
Maluach
Knueppel
Richardson
Sorber
Essengue

There is no way Queen isn't better than Knueppel.

No interest in Queen unless Masai thinks he can convince him to play defense.

[Brinbe]

The Islanders just moved from 10th to 1st in the NHL Lottery. Wouldn't be surprised if there's also a big move up in the NBA one like the Hawks last year.

[DreamTeam09]

The Islanders just moved from 10th to 1st in the NHL Lottery. Wouldn't be surprised if there's also a big move up in the NBA one like the Hawks last year.

Utility sports on YT sim 100 lottery's

Spurs at 11 won first far more times than 10 did

[WuTang_CMB]

PG - D-Russ - Reece Beekman
SG - Cam Thomas - Keon Johnson
SF - Cam Johnson - Ziaire Williams
PF - Trendon Watford - Tosan Evbuomwan
C - Nic Claxton - Day'Ron Sharpe

Considering that lineup, the biggest need is length/height - especially in the frontcourt.

If Brooklyn stays at #6 after the draft lottery, I wouldn't be surprised if Derik Queen, Khaman Malauch, Collin Murray-Boyles, and possibly even Asa Newell are ranked ahead of guards/wings like Tre Johnson, Jeremiah Fears, Kon Knueppel, Jase Richardson, and Kaspars Jakucionis,

They will take BPA but after looking at that lineup my guess is they would want to lean guard. At 6, I think they take Fears if he's available. They have zero guard upside

[Brinbe]

The Islanders just moved from 10th to 1st in the NHL Lottery. Wouldn't be surprised if there's also a big move up in the NBA one like the Hawks last year.

Utility sports on YT sim 100 lottery's

Spurs at 11 won first far more times than 10 did

just meant a big move up, not literally that it would be 10.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Fears is probably going to be the riser this draft.

After Harper he has the highest upside to be a lead initiator for a good offense.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

These playoffs re-emphasizing we can't draft someone who can't shoot (unless they are the 5) and we can't draft a small guard. Brunson is getting passed around like a blunt so Tatum or Brown can shoot over him or walk him into the paint

[DreamTeam09]

These playoffs re-emphasizing we can't draft someone who can't shoot (unless they are the 5) and we can't draft a small guard. Brunson is getting passed around like a blunt so Tatum or Brown can shoot over him or walk him into the paint

Payton Pritchard is the same size & he's playing alright

[WuTang_CMB]

size and length wins in the playoffs. It's why the Wolves destroyed the Lakers and why HOU gave G.S a lot of problems.
At 7 Raps will target 2 way talent with great length

[Clutch0z24]

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[Basketball_Jones]

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He even sounds like Dame Lillard. He’s gonna special and he’s probably gone by 5th.

[Indeed]

My personal board for pick 7:

Flagg
Harper
Edgecombe
Bailey
Johnson
Bryant
Flemming
Maluach
Knueppel
Richardson
Sorber
Essengue

There is no way Queen isn't better than Knueppel.

No interest in Queen unless Masai thinks he can convince him to play defense.

And Knueppel can play defense?
His defense is pretty bad even with effort.

[Indeed]

Personally, I think.he is going to be a much better player than GD on both sides of the floor. I also think he has a much more.diverse game than GD.

Kon is just much more crafty, has a better handle, better court vision & is a much more.physical & assertive player. His mix of footwork, strength, physicality, assertiveness & timing allow him to get to spots on the floor that GD can't get to.

I.also think he will be a much more reliable shooter.

Stats wise, Knueppel is not a better 3 point shooter than Dick in college. Dick is a better shooter in terms of being a movement shooter or pull up shooter, Knueppel is not even close in those aspects.

Knueppel has better things better than Dick, such as passing. However, many of the things Knueppel is doing may not translate to the NBA.

As for defense, that is not true, he is worse than Dick. Duke was switching around, and Knueppel switched to guard power forward, but that would not be the case in the NBA. He basically doesn't have a defensive position on defense.

You are better off with Walter than Knueppel, and Dick is just a better shooter, not just a spot up shooter like Knueppel (Knueppel pull up 3 is 25% with 12 attempts out of his 200 3s).

I like.Walter & can't argue with that.

Kon may or may not translate to.the NBA. This is true. Having said that; Gradeys game hasn't translated very well.at this point either.

As far as shooting stroke goes, the eye test tells me.that Kon's form will be more reliable. It's very repeatable.

People.keep talking about Gradey being a movement shooter, but so far he hasn't been a reliable.one. Gary Trent has been a much better NBA player. Is GTJ Gradey's ceiling?

I want the best for Gradey, but he has a long way to go & a lot to prove.

I have Walter above Dick even before Walter played his first game.
As for Knueppel, his defense is really bad. He was hide by PoA defense from Flagg and rim propector Maluach, and still able to give up driving lane. He is only able to defend less skill forwards with his strength, and that will not happen in the NBA.

That being said, he is Dick bad on defense (and I believe he is worse), we are better off just have Walter and Shead to play our backup guard spots, because our need is a PoA defender.

[Tripod]

Ideally we add someone who has "something" that is elite.

Ball handling
Shooting
Speed/blowby ability
Defense
Length/size

[MEDIC]

Stats wise, Knueppel is not a better 3 point shooter than Dick in college. Dick is a better shooter in terms of being a movement shooter or pull up shooter, Knueppel is not even close in those aspects.

Knueppel has better things better than Dick, such as passing. However, many of the things Knueppel is doing may not translate to the NBA.

As for defense, that is not true, he is worse than Dick. Duke was switching around, and Knueppel switched to guard power forward, but that would not be the case in the NBA. He basically doesn't have a defensive position on defense.

You are better off with Walter than Knueppel, and Dick is just a better shooter, not just a spot up shooter like Knueppel (Knueppel pull up 3 is 25% with 12 attempts out of his 200 3s).

I like.Walter & can't argue with that.

Kon may or may not translate to.the NBA. This is true. Having said that; Gradeys game hasn't translated very well.at this point either.

As far as shooting stroke goes, the eye test tells me.that Kon's form will be more reliable. It's very repeatable.

People.keep talking about Gradey being a movement shooter, but so far he hasn't been a reliable.one. Gary Trent has been a much better NBA player. Is GTJ Gradey's ceiling?

I want the best for Gradey, but he has a long way to go & a lot to prove.

I have Walter above Dick even before Walter played his first game.
As for Knueppel, his defense is really bad. He was hide by PoA defense from Flagg and rim propector Maluach, and still able to give up driving lane. He is only able to defend less skill forwards with his strength, and that will not happen in the NBA.

That being said, he is Dick bad on defense (and I believe he is worse), we are better off just have Walter and Shead to play our backup guard spots, because our need is a PoA defender.

You do raise a good.point & it's a good reminder.for me. I like defense & I like 2 way players (kinda why I think they missed on the GD pick).

So Bryant over Kon? I can get behind that.