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It is way too early to call the trade a nightmare. Priester is under control for this year plus another 5 years and Holobetz wasn't even sniffing our top 30. Yophery certainly could make the trade a nightmare if he develops into an All Star for Boston but nothing has materially changed for either team since the trade occurred. If there is one thing to trust the Brewers with its developing young pitchers
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MVP2110 wrote:It is way too early to call the trade a nightmare. Priester is under control for this year plus another 5 years and Holobetz wasn't even sniffing our top 30. Yophery certainly could make the trade a nightmare if he develops into an All Star for Boston but nothing has materially changed for either team since the trade occurred. If there is one thing to trust the Brewers with its developing young pitchers
It didn't need to be made, though. That's the entire problem. The Brewers have a guys at Priester's level who are all under team control for a long time. Henderson, Patrick, and Carlos Rodriguez namely. All they had to do was tread water for a few weeks before Myers and Quintana were ready.
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It did seem like a panic trade. Hopefully the kid figures it out and the draft pick is a bust.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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ReasonablySober wrote:MVP2110 wrote:It is way too early to call the trade a nightmare. Priester is under control for this year plus another 5 years and Holobetz wasn't even sniffing our top 30. Yophery certainly could make the trade a nightmare if he develops into an All Star for Boston but nothing has materially changed for either team since the trade occurred. If there is one thing to trust the Brewers with its developing young pitchers
It didn't need to be made, though. That's the entire problem. The Brewers have a guys at Priester's level who are all under team control for a long time. Henderson, Patrick, and Carlos Rodriguez namely. All they had to do was tread water for a few weeks before Myers and Quintana were ready.
Which is exactly why I'm willing to see it play out. The Brewers didn't need to make this trade and made a very aggressive move for a pitcher under long term control. This was the most aggressive move they've made in quite a few years. For a team that has proven to be very adept at pitching development I'm willing to see this through. They clearly saw something where they think he's different than those other guys
I don't believe the Brewers FO would make this move in a panic, but rather they saw something specific with Priester
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Brewers can't roll out anything without botching it initially. And I wonder how many joined this

I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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MickeyDavis wrote:Brewers can't roll out anything without botching it initially. And I wonder how many joined this![]()
I saw that guy who catches all the HR balls making a big stink about it. I do understand it though as its essentially making it like an $80-100 purchase then if use frequently.
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Thunder Muscle wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:Brewers can't roll out anything without botching it initially. And I wonder how many joined this![]()
I saw that guy who catches all the HR balls making a big stink about it. I do understand it though as its essentially making it like an $80-100 purchase then if use frequently.
Zack Hample? What did that loser have to say?
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ReasonablySober wrote:Thunder Muscle wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:Brewers can't roll out anything without botching it initially. And I wonder how many joined this![]()
I saw that guy who catches all the HR balls making a big stink about it. I do understand it though as its essentially making it like an $80-100 purchase then if use frequently.
Zack Hample? What did that loser have to say?
No, but the Brewers version of him. Jake Starcx or something like that is his name. He caught the ball at the Royals game last year and was acting like a maniac, cool moment, BUT then someone did digging and it was like his 20th HR ball. Meh.
He just was bitching about buying into the club and having to pay tax. Also complained about hot dog quality if I recall right.
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Kind of been a weird season so far. It seems like the team is flat/missing an “it” factor but every time I think they’re dead they’ll snap off a 3 game win streak and get back over 500. And some of the losses have been pretty rough.
The negatives for me is the NL is stacked. Wild Card is going to be tough to get so Division is the only path and right now its tough to see us hanging with the Cubs unless the offense cools off and they don’t address pitching. We also have to clean up some the defense and hopefully get guys like Ortiz, Yelich going a bit offensively.
The positives are the rotation overall is holding their own and still have Myers working his way back too. And Woodruff is the exciting long term hope if has no hiccups plus Logan Henderson. The bullpen seems to be stabilizing a bit especially with Mears pitching so well and have to think Yoho will be back at some point. I know it was a bit up and down in his first run. But I think the pitching will be solid once things settle. And we do have 7 guys hitting over 100 OPS+ with potential for previously mentioned guys to improve plus even Contreras (if healthy) is hitting a bit below his norm.
So I truly don’t think the team has played to its potential yet, which gives me hope to be a playoff team again. But get a vibe the team is struggling to find an identity (from the outside) and Murphy is pushing some buttons early that could go either way. So I guess maybe that is why it feels like 3 losses, 3 wins, repeat…
The negatives for me is the NL is stacked. Wild Card is going to be tough to get so Division is the only path and right now its tough to see us hanging with the Cubs unless the offense cools off and they don’t address pitching. We also have to clean up some the defense and hopefully get guys like Ortiz, Yelich going a bit offensively.
The positives are the rotation overall is holding their own and still have Myers working his way back too. And Woodruff is the exciting long term hope if has no hiccups plus Logan Henderson. The bullpen seems to be stabilizing a bit especially with Mears pitching so well and have to think Yoho will be back at some point. I know it was a bit up and down in his first run. But I think the pitching will be solid once things settle. And we do have 7 guys hitting over 100 OPS+ with potential for previously mentioned guys to improve plus even Contreras (if healthy) is hitting a bit below his norm.
So I truly don’t think the team has played to its potential yet, which gives me hope to be a playoff team again. But get a vibe the team is struggling to find an identity (from the outside) and Murphy is pushing some buttons early that could go either way. So I guess maybe that is why it feels like 3 losses, 3 wins, repeat…
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Rather just sit Contreras if helps heal faster AND if its affecting production, which have to think it is.
Kind of curious how this rotation will shake out once guys get healthy. Obviously setbacks can happen and/or other can get injured but right now Priester is the only one of the 4 I can clearly seeing being moved out of the rotation unless Patrick starts ti regress. And you have Henderson, Woodruff, Civale knocking in the door.
Kind of curious how this rotation will shake out once guys get healthy. Obviously setbacks can happen and/or other can get injured but right now Priester is the only one of the 4 I can clearly seeing being moved out of the rotation unless Patrick starts ti regress. And you have Henderson, Woodruff, Civale knocking in the door.
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Curious on the board's thoughts around the starting rotation. Woody and Civale will be back shortly with Cortes, Hall, Ashby and Gasser not too far behind and Miz and Henderson deserving of a promotion to the big club. Based on performance, it feels like Peralta, Quintana, Patrick and Myers should keep their spots in the rotation. How does this all play out?
Personally, I'm flipping Civale and Cortes for whatever you can get. I think Ashby is a lost cause, but could see value replacing Hudson as a lefty out of the bullpen. I'd love to see Woody complete the comeback but my confidence is low. I get that having 12 potential starters is a good problem to have, but something has to give.
Personally, I'm flipping Civale and Cortes for whatever you can get. I think Ashby is a lost cause, but could see value replacing Hudson as a lefty out of the bullpen. I'd love to see Woody complete the comeback but my confidence is low. I get that having 12 potential starters is a good problem to have, but something has to give.
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rayallenscalves wrote:Curious on the board's thoughts around the starting rotation. Woody and Civale will be back shortly with Cortes, Hall, Ashby and Gasser not too far behind and Miz and Henderson deserving of a promotion to the big club. Based on performance, it feels like Peralta, Quintana, Patrick and Myers should keep their spots in the rotation. How does this all play out?
Personally, I'm flipping Civale and Cortes for whatever you can get. I think Ashby is a lost cause, but could see value replacing Hudson as a lefty out of the bullpen. I'd love to see Woody complete the comeback but my confidence is low. I get that having 12 potential starters is a good problem to have, but something has to give.
I'm on board with flipping Civale & Cortes when they are healthy and if we don't have a rotation need at that point. Ashby looked awesome out of the pen last year so I'd be looking to put him back there, similar deal with Hall. Gasser, Mis, & Henderson I'm fine with being your SP depth and being stashed in AAA for now or replacing Priester with 1 of them. But I wouldn't trade any of those guys as they all are likely going to play big roles in our rotation next year and going forward
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rayallenscalves wrote:Curious on the board's thoughts around the starting rotation. Woody and Civale will be back shortly with Cortes, Hall, Ashby and Gasser not too far behind and Miz and Henderson deserving of a promotion to the big club. Based on performance, it feels like Peralta, Quintana, Patrick and Myers should keep their spots in the rotation. How does this all play out?
Personally, I'm flipping Civale and Cortes for whatever you can get. I think Ashby is a lost cause, but could see value replacing Hudson as a lefty out of the bullpen. I'd love to see Woody complete the comeback but my confidence is low. I get that having 12 potential starters is a good problem to have, but something has to give.
I feel like I always ponder this and there is always a bunch of guys hurt so it never ends up being a problem. But…
Peralta. Obviously he is their number 1 right now.
Quintana, Myers are safe for this season. So that is 3…
Patrick is safe unless he has an extended rough stretch. I don’t know how they view him long term.
Priester likely ends up at AAA once guys get healthy. I think he was a guy they felt could maybe get outs now BUT they really like long term as a developmental project.
Civale I’m fine moving but assume gets Priester’s spot once healthy unless Henderson makes big statement to stay up permanently. I do think he would be the guy they coukd probably move if healthy.
Cortes, Hall, Ashby, Woodruff, Gasser are all TBD to me until prove health. Ashby, Hall I think are destined to be bullpen guys. Cortes wouldn’t shock me if doesn’t return. I don’t think we’ll see Gasser this year.
Peralta….Do you consider trading him? 29, pitching well, BUT his contract is up after next season as its a given the team would pick up his 8M option. I’m also open to an extension after the season if they want to compete.
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Looks like he pitched in AAA last night so probably someone like Peguero
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Arguably the worst position player in team history. Yikes.