2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0)

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Who wins and goes to the ECFs?

Poll ended at Thu May 8, 2025 2:36 am

Celtics in 4
27
10%
Celtics in 5
111
42%
Celtics in 6
58
22%
Celtics in 7
12
4%
Knicks in 4
9
3%
Knicks in 5
5
2%
Knicks in 6
15
6%
Knicks in 7
30
11%
 
Total votes: 267

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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks 

Post#1761 » by cgf » Wed May 7, 2025 12:57 pm

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Is it? You’re telling me the Knicks have a better roster?
At this point I think you’re mistaking personal biases with logic, there’s absolutely nothing suggesting the Knicks have the better team or has been the better team in the past I’d say 3-4 years.


Who has the better team and better players are different conversations. You've clearly been the better team this season, but you've also had years to develop chemistry & figure out what works with this core, building up your depth around them & tweaking around the edges of the rotation. Our group not only has yet to have a training camp together, but its defensive anchor just got into game shape a month or so ago.

And against an exceptional team like yours, that lack of chemistry...especially defensively...can be a killer. In particular earlier in the season and if the coach of the less blooded-in underdog is keeping things basic for the regular season, before starting to get more aggressive with his defensive personnel for the postseason; as we've seen Thibs do with Anunoby & Bridges.


Plus, your roster being better on the whole doesn't mean we don't have our advantages. Like we have the best crunchtime creator in this series, and the defenders we have to throw at your ace match up better than the defenders you have to throw at ours. Similarly, when he's cooking, Towns is a weapon you guys just don't have because KP can't create for himself like Karl can, and he's just too soft around the rim.

Of course Karl can't protect the rim like KP, Jrue is a more credible shooter than Hart, Pritchard is having a way better season than McBride off the bench, etc. but like I said, your roster being better on the whole wouldn't mean we didn't have some advantages and you being the better team this year doesn't necessarily mean you've got the better players or roster on the whole.


Not even getting into the Form vs Class question. As things are coming together for us to play our best basketball right now, so even if one does think you outclass us across the board, we could beat you just on form.


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Then seeing the reality

Then panic

Then cries and teeth grinding

Then it will be 1-4 and Knicks fans will be back to blaming Thibs and Mikal for this world disaster

Let’s Go Celtics , in Leprechaun we trust


This season has been a blast and looks like even if we lose, we'll have represented ourselves well against the defending champs.

Luckily we've got you around to keep the good times rolling a little longer & give us a shot at pulling off the upset so many assumed was impossible 8-)
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1762 » by hardenASG13 » Wed May 7, 2025 1:02 pm

Knicks plus 10.5 tonight, Denver plus 11! It's impossible to feel good about betting any side with how these games have gone in the second round
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1763 » by brackdan70 » Wed May 7, 2025 1:06 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:Knicks plus 10.5 tonight, Denver plus 11! It's impossible to feel good about betting any side with how these games have gone in the second round

Yeah wow.I am not a better but those are tough lines to even consider either way.
If I was I would lean toward the Favorites bouncing back after tough losses and winning by double digits.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1764 » by Wolfgang630 » Wed May 7, 2025 1:07 pm

Pacers pulled off the game 2 win. Knicks need to have the same mindset to do the same. Though the pacers get lucky again facing a team with multiple key injuries.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1765 » by hardenASG13 » Wed May 7, 2025 1:20 pm

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hardenASG13 wrote:Knicks plus 10.5 tonight, Denver plus 11! It's impossible to feel good about betting any side with how these games have gone in the second round

Yeah wow.I am not a better but those are tough lines to even consider either way.
If I was I would lean toward the Favorites bouncing back after tough losses and winning by double digits.


The cavs also closed at 5.5 point favorites last night I think. I know the Knicks lost big to good teams during the year, but beating them by 10 with that rotation (plus if KAT can not get in foul trouble) is really hard to bet against. Which probably means Boston blowout tonight.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks 

Post#1766 » by LFGK » Wed May 7, 2025 1:42 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
cgf wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Every stat and nearly every game suggested that, after losing 4 in the regular season and Boston having better players and stats in pretty much everything, did you expect him to pick the Knicks in 4-5?


At this point, we should know that the regular season is not the postseason though the first two games went very differently from the latter two...and who has the better players is very much debatable :dontknow:


Is it? You’re telling me the Knicks have a better roster?
At this point I think you’re mistaking personal biases with logic, there’s absolutely nothing suggesting the Knicks have the better team or has been the better team in the past I’d say 3-4 years.


this roster has what to do with the last 3-4 years? the blatant disrespect is kind of funny by celtic homers, def not going back and forth with celtic fans that think this is over in 5, when the Knicks do advance dont be tooooo shocked and hang that "4-0 Reg Season record vs NYK" banner
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks 

Post#1767 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed May 7, 2025 2:02 pm

LFGK wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
cgf wrote:
At this point, we should know that the regular season is not the postseason though the first two games went very differently from the latter two...and who has the better players is very much debatable :dontknow:


Is it? You’re telling me the Knicks have a better roster?
At this point I think you’re mistaking personal biases with logic, there’s absolutely nothing suggesting the Knicks have the better team or has been the better team in the past I’d say 3-4 years.


this roster has what to do with the last 3-4 years? the blatant disrespect is kind of funny by celtic homers, def not going back and forth with celtic fans that think this is over in 5, when the Knicks do advance dont be tooooo shocked and hang that "4-0 Reg Season record vs NYK" banner


I can’t wait.
Good assessment:

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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1768 » by cgf » Wed May 7, 2025 2:07 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:Pacers pulled off the game 2 win. Knicks need to have the same mindset to do the same. Though the pacers get lucky again facing a team with multiple key injuries.


Having gone to bat for the Knicks and Pacers so often this season, I'd love to get another crack at those dudes if we can get past Boston. Both teams just don't go away, have the personnel to clamp down defensively or explode offensively, and are getting healthy / peaking at the perfect time.

Still a lot of work to do in both series as even on the ropes the Cavs are a very good team and we haven't even got the Celtics on the ropes yet. But if Boston doesn't give us their best punch tonight, or we can take their best punch & roll with it, things could get very spicy.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1769 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed May 7, 2025 2:14 pm

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Wolfgang630 wrote:Pacers pulled off the game 2 win. Knicks need to have the same mindset to do the same. Though the pacers get lucky again facing a team with multiple key injuries.


Having gone to bat for the Knicks and Pacers so often this season, I'd love to get another crack at those dudes if we can get past Boston. Both teams just don't go away, have the personnel to clamp down defensively or explode offensively, and are getting healthy / peaking at the perfect time.

Still a lot of work to do in both series as even on the ropes the Cavs are a very good team and we haven't even got the Celtics on the ropes yet. But if Boston doesn't give us their best punch tonight, or we can take their best punch & roll with it, things could get very spicy.


You can’t get past Boston and as soon as you realize this level of disappointment will be bearable

Knicks had a shot against Pacers last year and failed miserably

Knicks maximum was young and inexperienced Pistons team and even then it wasn’t easy and needed refs help
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1770 » by cgf » Wed May 7, 2025 2:37 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
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Wolfgang630 wrote:Pacers pulled off the game 2 win. Knicks need to have the same mindset to do the same. Though the pacers get lucky again facing a team with multiple key injuries.


Having gone to bat for the Knicks and Pacers so often this season, I'd love to get another crack at those dudes if we can get past Boston. Both teams just don't go away, have the personnel to clamp down defensively or explode offensively, and are getting healthy / peaking at the perfect time.

Still a lot of work to do in both series as even on the ropes the Cavs are a very good team and we haven't even got the Celtics on the ropes yet. But if Boston doesn't give us their best punch tonight, or we can take their best punch & roll with it, things could get very spicy.


You can’t get past Boston and as soon as you realize this level of disappointment will be bearable

Knicks had a shot against Pacers last year and failed miserably

Knicks maximum was young and inexperienced Pistons team and even then it wasn’t easy and needed refs help


With you cheering us on, nothing can stop us 8-)
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1771 » by cgf » Wed May 7, 2025 3:04 pm

Starting to feel better about our chances of matching Indy's pace unless Brown looks a lot better and can start overpowering Bridges. Tatum will shoot better, but OG will make him hit tough shots & tire him out...which will help Karl offensively, if he can stay out of foul trouble.

Any word about KP's illness? Horford's a legend, but he's also older than me...which never bodes well for a professional athlete being asked to play huge minutes...and Brunson was really able to hunt him in game 1.


Cut to every Celtic being hot tonight as they run through us by 30+ and give their starters the 4th quarter off :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1772 » by AFM » Wed May 7, 2025 3:32 pm

The big question for me is how will BOS approach this game--are they going to keep jacking up 3s or will they actually attack the paint?
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1773 » by Capn'O » Wed May 7, 2025 3:37 pm

cgf wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
cgf wrote:
Having gone to bat for the Knicks and Pacers so often this season, I'd love to get another crack at those dudes if we can get past Boston. Both teams just don't go away, have the personnel to clamp down defensively or explode offensively, and are getting healthy / peaking at the perfect time.

Still a lot of work to do in both series as even on the ropes the Cavs are a very good team and we haven't even got the Celtics on the ropes yet. But if Boston doesn't give us their best punch tonight, or we can take their best punch & roll with it, things could get very spicy.


You can’t get past Boston and as soon as you realize this level of disappointment will be bearable

Knicks had a shot against Pacers last year and failed miserably

Knicks maximum was young and inexperienced Pistons team and even then it wasn’t easy and needed refs help


With you cheering us on, nothing can stop us 8-)


I was fairly bleak on tonight. Game 2s on the road are the hardest Ws. But Arky will lead us to the promised land.

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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #2 Boston Celtics vs #3 New York Knicks (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#1774 » by cgf » Wed May 7, 2025 4:00 pm

Capn'O wrote:
cgf wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
You can’t get past Boston and as soon as you realize this level of disappointment will be bearable

Knicks had a shot against Pacers last year and failed miserably

Knicks maximum was young and inexperienced Pistons team and even then it wasn’t easy and needed refs help


With you cheering us on, nothing can stop us 8-)


I was fairly bleak on tonight. Game 2s on the road are the hardest Ws. But Arky will lead us to the promised land.

Noo Yawk basketball powers unite!

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Arky might just be the hero that the Knicks board deserves, and a perfect manifestation of the collective goodness in our hearts :lol:
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