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2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10

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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1041 » by NightWatch » Wed May 7, 2025 11:04 pm

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Vertical Limit wrote:Lol if anyone thinks Butler on this Heat team would have beaten the Cavs.. we lost that series by an NBA record 122 points which is absurd. butler is not closing that gap..

We would have still gotten swept.

And with the way Butler was behaving, we dont even know what Butler would have shown up. We may not have even made it to the play in.

Now hes on TNT’s/ESPN’s golden boys team and with Curry, Butler has been able to repair his inage and theyre all actibg like what he was doing on the Heat never happened… but he was way wrong, he was ripped to shreds by former players and all of the media for his actions and even brought up the fact that this isnt new of hi. - hes done this before on 3 other teams.


Until yall realize that the Heat core of Herro and Bam is what is holding us back, you will never move on.

You can add Durant to this core and im not sure we are not in the play in again next year.

You cant add an all nba and all defensive talent like Giannis without giving up at least Bam and 3 firsts, but you all say Bam is untradeable, some of yall may even think Giannis and Bam is a wash :lol:

The core has got to be blown up, and rebuilt. And if this Heat squad ever comes to terms to that and are ready to trade everything (herro, bam, firsts, etc) theyve got for a real superstar, im here and all for it.

Adding some talent at the end of his career to this squad isnt going to do **** for us. So whats the plan?


Yeah butler makes zero difference in that series. Also yes it’s past time to blow it up. Anointing Herro and Bam as the torch bearers is just on brand with the cringe Heat culture mantra that has infested the team recently


I disagree.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1042 » by marson » Wed May 7, 2025 11:55 pm

unowen85 wrote:Bam Stans vs. Heat fans debates are always entertaining. :D


Never gets old.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1043 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 8, 2025 12:22 am

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unowen85 wrote:Bam Stans vs. Heat fans debates are always entertaining. :D


Never gets old.


Between myself Greg vade and Timmy you have 4 of the greatest minds this forum has ever seen. You’re getting a lot of facts and perspective you all wouldn’t normally get without the discussion. You’re seeing guys take a stance, back it with evidence/statistics/etc. which unfortunately is not the norm on here when debating/discussing topics. Overall it seems we agree more than disagree on the discussion.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1044 » by Shewasfly » Thu May 8, 2025 12:27 am

I'm one of Spo's biggest defenders but if investing in Duncan was truly his idea like so many have claimed over the years, I don't want him anywhere near the front office.

Like literally he shouldn't even have access to where the offices are. Just come through the backdoor or the door that leads to the practice facilities and arena. Only coaching please, thank you very much.
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Post#1045 » by contract » Thu May 8, 2025 12:42 am

Shewasfly wrote:I'm one of Spo's biggest defenders but if investing in Duncan was truly his idea like so many have claimed over the years, I don't want him anywhere near the front office.

Like literally he shouldn't even have access to where the offices are. Just come through the backdoor or the door that leads to the practice facilities and arena. Only coaching please, thank you very much.

I'm sure there's an alternate universe where Spo walked into Pat's office and demanded that we pay Duncan Robinson $90 million/5 years. Pat was powerless to resist Spo's demands to massively overpay a very limited role player because apparently in that universe Pat doesn't have all those rings to drop on the table.

"The Godfather" has a cult that credits him for any and all things good and absolves him of each and every brain dead decision.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1046 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 8, 2025 1:00 am

Unpopular opinion(s) bad contract aside Duncan is the best shooter in Heat history and at his best was one of the best role players we’ve ever had. His shooting was the key to a top 7 offense and a major part in that finals run, his impact on offense was insane and it was one of the best 3 point shooting seasons in nba history. It’s a shame he fell off because 2020 Duncan was well worth the money
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1047 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu May 8, 2025 2:00 am

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Post#1048 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 8, 2025 2:04 am

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They can but will they? If Barry’s line of thinking was how we approached team building then we’d just need to lose miserably for 15 years and hoard all the assets until we have the most in the league
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Post#1049 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu May 8, 2025 2:07 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Unpopular opinion(s) bad contract aside Duncan is the best shooter in Heat history and at his best was one of the best role players we’ve ever had. His shooting was the key to a top 7 offense and a major part in that finals run, his impact on offense was insane and it was one of the best 3 point shooting seasons in nba history. It’s a shame he fell off because 2020 Duncan was well worth the money

The year before his extension he was showing signs of falling off. I was vehemently against giving him that extension and was hoping he would have left to the Spurs. His contract was on par with the Davis Bertans mistake. Atleast teams knew when to finally cut bait. We’ve had to endure under that contract years of mental yips and some of the worst defense in the league. Also the loss of Strus who was the better gamble between the two due to Strus’s wide build and athletic ability and just a better overall fit to cover behind Herro.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1050 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu May 8, 2025 2:11 am

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They can but will they? If Barry’s line of thinking was how we approached team building then we’d just need to lose miserably for 15 years and hoard all the assets until we have the most in the league

They will for a generational player like Giannis. Not sure about Durant due to age. If Houston gets desperate and misses out on others they may circle back to Durant unless we get aggressive and strike first. If Houston is already set on Durant then we will get beat easily. I could see the Suns really wanting FVV’s big expiring and letting him play out the year helping them keep competitive. That’s the thing with the Suns. They can’t just have an outright fire sale due to the pick situation.
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Post#1051 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu May 8, 2025 2:25 am

The one thing with Houston and Durant is if they feel like he’ll help bring Jalen Green along. Those two have become workout buddies in the offseason. They would be investing essentially in Green’s mentor.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1052 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu May 8, 2025 2:32 am

I mentioned a few days ago about a great landing spot for Rozier being the Pelicans due to the past relationship and success with coach Borrego. Could be a piece in any deal that involves Zion Williamson. Considering Arison’s ties with Duke and us needing to take a gamble splash i could see us taking a chance with Zion. His contract is low risk with a high reward payoff.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1053 » by marson » Thu May 8, 2025 2:34 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I mentioned a few days ago about a great landing spot for Rozier being the Pelicans due to the past relationship and success with coach Borrego. Could be a piece in any deal that involves Zion Williamson. Considering Arison’s ties with Duke and us needing to take a gamble splash i could see us taking a chance with Zion. His contract is low risk with a high reward payoff.


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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1054 » by Beenie » Thu May 8, 2025 2:38 am

Whatever fantastical trades anyone can come with would result in a team that would still get the brakes beaten off of them by either Denver or OKC

Better just to blow it up.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1055 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 8, 2025 2:42 am

Beenie wrote:Whatever fantastical trades anyone can come with would result in a team that would still get the brakes beaten off of them by either Denver or OKC

Better just to blow it up.


Until you get to the Finals and SGA suffers a high ankle sprain in game 2 with the series being 1-1 headed back to Miami.

You just never know, as we are reminded with these current playoffs.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1056 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 8, 2025 2:42 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I mentioned a few days ago about a great landing spot for Rozier being the Pelicans due to the past relationship and success with coach Borrego. Could be a piece in any deal that involves Zion Williamson. Considering Arison’s ties with Duke and us needing to take a gamble splash i could see us taking a chance with Zion. His contract is low risk with a high reward payoff.


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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1057 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu May 8, 2025 2:46 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:I mentioned a few days ago about a great landing spot for Rozier being the Pelicans due to the past relationship and success with coach Borrego. Could be a piece in any deal that involves Zion Williamson. Considering Arison’s ties with Duke and us needing to take a gamble splash i could see us taking a chance with Zion. His contract is low risk with a high reward payoff.


Get it done MWP!

Plenty of scenarios that bring KO, Zion, and McCollum here
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1058 » by Beenie » Thu May 8, 2025 2:53 am

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Beenie wrote:Whatever fantastical trades anyone can come with would result in a team that would still get the brakes beaten off of them by either Denver or OKC

Better just to blow it up.


Until you get to the Finals and SGA suffers a high ankle sprain in game 2 with the series being 1-1 headed back to Miami.

You just never know, as we are reminded with these current playoffs.


KD more likely to be the one who gets knocked out due to injury.

Same with Ja and Zion.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1059 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 8, 2025 2:54 am

Beenie wrote:
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Beenie wrote:Whatever fantastical trades anyone can come with would result in a team that would still get the brakes beaten off of them by either Denver or OKC

Better just to blow it up.


Until you get to the Finals and SGA suffers a high ankle sprain in game 2 with the series being 1-1 headed back to Miami.

You just never know, as we are reminded with these current playoffs.


KD more likely to be the one who gets knocked out due to injury.

Same with Ja and Zion.


Maybe, you never know.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1060 » by Lennyzinho » Thu May 8, 2025 4:12 am

Celtics lose again? With that huge cap and tax bill? IN THIS ECONOMY?

Buckle up boys, it's gonna get real weird this off-season. No way Jrue or Jaylen or KP or multiple of em don't get moved.

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