2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East Semifinals: #1 Cleveland Cavaliers vs #4 Indiana Pacers (IND leads 2-0)

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

The season ends in disappointment for fan of 29 team every year. I do hate the way this one has gone. It's one thing for the Pacers to just be better. That's fine, but this just leaves questions. Keeping all these guys to low minutes, just to have the roster decimated in a couple games. Deflating. At least the Pacers are having a magical run. Hopefully you all stay healthy, I'm probably not going to post much more this postseason. Writing is on the wall and time is bit to precious these days to feel bad about sports stuff.

As one of the few cool Cavs fans, I really appreciate you. I do hate that your team got injured, we've been on that side of things many times before and it always sucks. Hoping you can get some guys back for the rest of the series, but still hate it unfolded that way in the first place.

I will say, series isn't over man. Teams have lost these scenarios before and you proved you can compete with the guys you have. Garland coming back can change things in an instant.

[jbk1234]

I'd rather there weren't weak calls period for anyone. Does 2 points in the 2nd quarter not count the same? Let's say in game 3 Siakim gets 3 weak trips to the line in the 1st half. If Mitchell gets one with 10 seconds left the Pacers would still be +4 in weak call FT attempts. That sways the game more than a late call. I'm not really arguing with your main point in that it shouldn't have been a foul call on Mitchell. I just don't think it should have been a foul in the 2nd quarter or if there are 10 seconds left.

For obvious reasons, yes it's very different. The Cavs can still come back from a couple of soft calls on Siakim in the first half. The Pacers can't come back from the officials gifting the game to Mitchell at the end. Moreover, the idea that you have to play for the win and not the foul in the last two minutes is hardly new. To do that in a playoff game is pretty egregious.

Now, I don't know that there is anyway the Cavs can win this series without Garland coming back and soon, but if he does, and the Cavs are able to make a series out if it and come up short, I'm going to be angry the refs rewarded Haliburton with free throws in Cleveland. That call doesn't get made in Boston or MSG. Zero chance regardless of what crew is out there.

I’m with you man. The refs should only favor the Cavs.

You should read the literal 2 minute report.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

For obvious reasons, yes it's very different. The Cavs can still come back from a couple of soft calls on Siakim in the first half. The Pacers can't come back from the officials gifting the game to Mitchell at the end. Moreover, the idea that you have to play for the win and not the foul in the last two minutes is hardly new. To do that in a playoff game is pretty egregious.

Now, I don't know that there is anyway the Cavs can win this series without Garland coming back and soon, but if he does, and the Cavs are able to make a series out if it and come up short, I'm going to be angry the refs rewarded Haliburton with free throws in Cleveland. That call doesn't get made in Boston or MSG. Zero chance regardless of what crew is out there.

I’m with you man. The refs should only favor the Cavs.

You should read the literal 2 minute report.

I read it.

Go Pacers!

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

So we all agree? The Cavs are 2-0, but the refs have gifted the Pacers two free wins that they didn't deserve?

I like this new NBA.

Keep it coming refs! Screw the Cavs over more please!

[GiannisAnte34]

I'm gonna be that guy, but it does feel like this series so far is a little bit of karma for the showboating Cavs were doing in round 1. Although I think you could also just blame the Heat for not getting them ready for the postseason at all, those games were practically scrimmages.

Pacers were talking a lot of smack in the Bucks series too. Then there was Halis Dad coming onto the court after the series closing game to trash talk Giannis while he was walking around to shake hands. Mathurin also got crazy with Giannis after their handshake

Who would have ever thought you'd pop back in to try to change the topic to the Bucks!?!

Setting the record straight that the Cavs weren’t the only team showboating and smack talking in the 1st round. Don’t like it? Get over it

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Pacers were talking a lot of smack in the Bucks series too. Then there was Halis Dad coming onto the court after the series closing game to trash talk Giannis while he was walking around to shake hands. Mathurin also got crazy with Giannis after their handshake

Who would have ever thought you'd pop back in to try to change the topic to the Bucks!?!

Setting the record straight that the Cavs weren’t the only team showboating and smack talking in the 1st round. Don’t like it? Get over it

I actually do enjoy watching you cry.

Keep at it.

[GiannisAnte34]

Who would have ever thought you'd pop back in to try to change the topic to the Bucks!?!

Setting the record straight that the Cavs weren’t the only team showboating and smack talking in the 1st round. Don’t like it? Get over it

I actually do enjoy watching you cry.

Keep at it.

That seems to speak more about you than you think.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Setting the record straight that the Cavs weren’t the only team showboating and smack talking in the 1st round. Don’t like it? Get over it

I actually do enjoy watching you cry.

Keep at it.

That seems to speak more about you than you think.

...and you continuously trying to make everything about your team, even when politely asked to stop, says more about you than you realize. Its your right to do so of course, but you do it to troll. Can't play victim now when you've just been trying to troll this whole time.

We were all kind to you at first, but you just kept on, and on, and on. Now its just pathetic.

[Wizop]

You should read the literal 2 minute report.

That 2 minute reports exist tells me that there are frequently questionable calls as games end. Actually there are questionable calls throughout every game. In my experience calls tend to favor home teams, winning teams, and stars but I don't think games are fixed. I do think many officials swallow whistles late thinking they don't want to affect the result overlooking that no-calls also affect the result.

So, yes, the Pacers benefitted from some late calls. But plenty of calls went the Cavs way too. Missed calls and phantom fouls are just part of basketball. Players have to learn not to dwell on them. Coaches try to influence calls both in the current game and in future games.

[GiannisAnte34]

I actually do enjoy watching you cry.

Keep at it.

That seems to speak more about you than you think.

...and you continuously trying to make everything about your team, even when politely asked to stop, says more about you than you realize. Its your right to do so of course, but you do it to troll. Can't play victim now when you've just been trying to troll this whole time.

We were all kind to you at first, but you just kept on, and on, and on. Now its just pathetic.

I post to draw comparisons on overlapping points. It isn’t trolling to respond to someone’s comment that the Cavs are getting karmic justice because of their poor sportsmanship by contributing what my experience was with the Pacers in rd 1. Who am I provoking saying that? Am I giving false information?

People who are kind don’t call people pathetic or misrepresent their comments or state that they take pleasure in their perceived suffering. Narcissists and sadists do though. If you want to be kind as you say you are, maybe you should stop with the provocative comments yourself.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

That seems to speak more about you than you think.

...and you continuously trying to make everything about your team, even when politely asked to stop, says more about you than you realize. Its your right to do so of course, but you do it to troll. Can't play victim now when you've just been trying to troll this whole time.

We were all kind to you at first, but you just kept on, and on, and on. Now its just pathetic.

I post to draw comparisons on overlapping points. It isn’t trolling to respond to someone’s comment that the Cavs are getting karmic justice because of their poor sportsmanship by contributing what my experience was with the Pacers in rd 1. Who am I provoking saying that? Am I giving false information?

People who are kind don’t call people pathetic or misrepresent their comments or state that they take pleasure in their perceived suffering. Narcissists and sadists do though. If you want to be kind as you say you are, maybe you should stop with the provocative comments yourself.

My dude, you insinuated that the Pacers were a dirty team because Dame got injured on a non-contact play. “At some point, we need to wonder if these injuries are just coincidence.”

It was a silly statement and a troll statement.

Whatever man, have at it. Regardless of anything on here, truly hope you are blessed in life.

Keep talking about the Bucks, I’ll just ignore it.

[GiannisAnte34]

...and you continuously trying to make everything about your team, even when politely asked to stop, says more about you than you realize. Its your right to do so of course, but you do it to troll. Can't play victim now when you've just been trying to troll this whole time.

We were all kind to you at first, but you just kept on, and on, and on. Now its just pathetic.

I post to draw comparisons on overlapping points. It isn’t trolling to respond to someone’s comment that the Cavs are getting karmic justice because of their poor sportsmanship by contributing what my experience was with the Pacers in rd 1. Who am I provoking saying that? Am I giving false information?

People who are kind don’t call people pathetic or misrepresent their comments or state that they take pleasure in their perceived suffering. Narcissists and sadists do though. If you want to be kind as you say you are, maybe you should stop with the provocative comments yourself.

My dude, you insinuated that the Pacers were a dirty team because Dame got injured on a non-contact play. “At some point, we need to wonder if these injuries are just coincidence.”

It was a silly statement and a troll statement.

Whatever man, have at it. Regardless of anything on here, truly hope you are blessed in life.

Keep talking about the Bucks, I’ll just ignore it.

Where is the logical consistency here. You say that Dame was injured on a non-contact play but then stretch my quote to insinuate dirty play?

I made 0 comments to give any context whatsoever that I was accusing the Pacers of being dirty or intentionally injuring Dame.

Maybe just admit you were wrong to misinterpret the meaning of my comment, which I clarified was about the Pacers ongoing fortune. Again am I provoking anyone or giving false information in that instance? That’s not trolling then

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

I post to draw comparisons on overlapping points. It isn’t trolling to respond to someone’s comment that the Cavs are getting karmic justice because of their poor sportsmanship by contributing what my experience was with the Pacers in rd 1. Who am I provoking saying that? Am I giving false information?

People who are kind don’t call people pathetic or misrepresent their comments or state that they take pleasure in their perceived suffering. Narcissists and sadists do though. If you want to be kind as you say you are, maybe you should stop with the provocative comments yourself.

My dude, you insinuated that the Pacers were a dirty team because Dame got injured on a non-contact play. “At some point, we need to wonder if these injuries are just coincidence.”

It was a silly statement and a troll statement.

Whatever man, have at it. Regardless of anything on here, truly hope you are blessed in life.

Keep talking about the Bucks, I’ll just ignore it.

Where is the logical consistency here. You say that Dame was injured on a non-contact play but then stretch my quote to insinuate dirty play?

I made 0 comments to give any context whatsoever that I was accusing the Pacers of being dirty or intentionally injuring Dame.

Maybe just admit you were wrong to misinterpret the meaning of my comment, which I clarified was about the Pacers ongoing fortune. Again am I provoking anyone or giving false information in that instance? That’s not trolling then

Saying “is it just a coincidence?” only implies one thing and you know it. No one is going to read that and think you’re talking about some divine intervention.

But it is what it is man. You keep doing you, imma stop replying as there is just nothing to gain from this.

Stay blessed man.

[GiannisAnte34]

My dude, you insinuated that the Pacers were a dirty team because Dame got injured on a non-contact play. “At some point, we need to wonder if these injuries are just coincidence.”

It was a silly statement and a troll statement.

Whatever man, have at it. Regardless of anything on here, truly hope you are blessed in life.

Keep talking about the Bucks, I’ll just ignore it.

Where is the logical consistency here. You say that Dame was injured on a non-contact play but then stretch my quote to insinuate dirty play?

I made 0 comments to give any context whatsoever that I was accusing the Pacers of being dirty or intentionally injuring Dame.

Maybe just admit you were wrong to misinterpret the meaning of my comment, which I clarified was about the Pacers ongoing fortune. Again am I provoking anyone or giving false information in that instance? That’s not trolling then

Saying “is it just a coincidence?” only implies one thing and you know it. No one is going to read that and think you’re talking about some divine intervention.

But it is what it is man. You keep doing you, imma stop replying as there is just nothing to gain from this.

Stay blessed man.

Coincidence and fate are two parallels that are pretty commonly discussed in the realm of sports. You assigned accusation, you were wrong.

[yoadknux]

I don't really care about bitter Bucks and Cavs fans, but let me say this, the Pacers beat the Knicks last year after being down 0-2, and the Cavs are a much better team than we were. This series is FAR from over, beating a top seed twice is no trivial task

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

I don't really care about bitter Bucks and Cavs fans, but let me say this, the Pacers beat the Knicks last year after being down 0-2, and the Cavs are a much better team than we were. This series is FAR from over, beating a top seed twice is no trivial task

Agreed.

…and the Cavs have a lot of competitors too. They aren’t going to go down lightly, the Pacers are going to get another strong punch from them next game. They’ve just gotta keep their composure and keep running/taking good shots.

[Raps in 4]

Silver wants his Pacers-OKC final and will do anything to get it. Those two teams will set a new ratings record.

[Nuntius]

For obvious reasons, yes it's very different. The Cavs can still come back from a couple of soft calls on Siakim in the first half. The Pacers can't come back from the officials gifting the game to Mitchell at the end. Moreover, the idea that you have to play for the win and not the foul in the last two minutes is hardly new. To do that in a playoff game is pretty egregious.

Now, I don't know that there is anyway the Cavs can win this series without Garland coming back and soon, but if he does, and the Cavs are able to make a series out if it and come up short, I'm going to be angry the refs rewarded Haliburton with free throws in Cleveland. That call doesn't get made in Boston or MSG. Zero chance regardless of what crew is out there.

I’m with you man. The refs should only favor the Cavs.

You should read the literal 2 minute report.

We did and it literally says that Haliburton was fouled by Jerome on that drive that you're all complaining about.

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0042400202

Comment: Jerome (CLE) extends his forearm into Haliburton (IND), affecting his driving shot attempt.

You see, the foul wasn't called on Mitchell's contest. It was called on Jerome's reach in after he was blown by.

Yes, the L2M does say that lane violations should have been called (just like it says that Mitchell should have been called for defensive 3 seconds prior to that drive, by the way) but it literally confirms the call that you're all disputing.

[Nuntius]

Am I giving false information?

I mean, yes. Yes, you are. You are presenting information that is colored by your own personal bias. Now, this is sports so you're definitely allowed to have your own biases, we all do, but when you're trying to pass off an opinion as a fact, there's an issue here.

You keep saying how the Pacers were disrespectful during our series but the fact remains that the only player on either team to disrespect their opponent and say crap about them in the media was none other than Bobby Portis. Everyone else (Pacers, Giannis, Dame et cetera) did their trash talking on the court, like you're supposed to.

[durden_tyler]

After a 2-0 start, the Pacers (-196) are now the considerable favorites to beat the Cavs (+155) this best-of-seven series.


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