Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2

[powerball1373]

So overall, GS was -4 in Butler's 34 minutes, meaning when off the floor in 11 minutes GS was -18 (3 minutes left in the game). Luckily 14 players had played in the game before Kerr pulled the starters. It is KEY to have multiple players you can have handle the ball on the court when Butler is off the court, I'd prefer to see Draymond and Podz being those 2.

The -4 towards the end tends to indicate to me the concern of Kuminga and Butler together are still valid especially with someone like TJD still on the floor.

With Steph out, JK and Jimmy are just going to have to be on the floor together. Otherwise you're looking at 8-10 min for JK, which doesn't make sense given the complete lack of offense from everyone else.

[Upperclass]

Kerr wants Podz to be Poole so bad. They need a backup PG but they may be better off letting Pat run backup point in the few minutes Draymond or Butler are off the court

[cpower]

while I was expecting a L, I did expect a dog fight, not this underwhelming performance on D.
without curry they need to go the HOU way basically.

they probably saving all the energy for g3 and 4.. but yeah throwing away playoff games is bad and we got another Green technical on top of that. Might as well just play full bench if we dont want to try.

[HiRez]

Butler's only played 26 minutes in a game without Curry.

This was a try out game. Don’t think Kerr was trying to win this game at all costs. Want to make sure Jimmy doesn’t play 40+ in a game Kerr isn’t actually trying to win.

I mean maybe but this game was there for the taking even in spite of all the terrible shooting and dumbass turnovers. I hate sacrificial games, if the Dubs did manage to take this one and go up 2-0, it would put them in command of the series and the Wolves would be completely demoralized.

Wolves are not very impressive, Dubs played an unimaginably awful game and still had (perhaps outside) chances to take it.

So what are the lessons learned from the sacrifice? Are Kuminga and TJD really playable or was it an aberration? Moody looks like a guy who should not even see 1 minute on the court right now. Podz is still all over the place Meanwhile, Santos, GP2, Moody, and Spencer were all given minutes and did absolutely nothing with them. Post got 3 minutes of playing time after 6 in the last game, 2 games and 0 shots taken, not enough to learn whether he can help or not. Hield is literally the only guy on the team who can make a 3.

IDK what you can take from this game that helps you figure out a game plan for the next one, the Wolves are beatable but the Warriors are a **** mess.

[powerball1373]

Question, why are ANY of the starters on the court when he's not played them all that much throughout the game?

You probably need to see the chemistry. Kuminga and Butler have not played that much. If Kuminga is going to play a role going forward you need to see how those two play together.

While risking injury with Curry already out? If you want to see chemistry hold a short practice tomorrow in GS. Despite the score, this game was winnable without the wacky lineups.

Idk, that was a cute little run to cut the lead to 7, but at no point did I think the Warriors were really threatening to win the game.

[superunknown]

Butler's only played 26 minutes in a game without Curry.

This was a try out game. Don’t think Kerr was trying to win this game at all costs. Want to make sure Jimmy doesn’t play 40+ in a game Kerr isn’t actually trying to win.

I mean maybe but this game was there for the taking even in spite of all the terrible shooting and dumbass turnovers. I hate sacrificial games, if the Dubs did manage to take this one and go up 2-0, it would put them in command of the series and the Wolves would be completely demoralized.

Wolves are not very impressive, Dubs played an unimaginably awful game and still had (perhaps outside) chances to take it.

So what are the lessons learned from the sacrifice? Are Kuminga and TJD really playable or was it an aberration? Moody looks like a guy who should not even see 1 minute on the court right now. Podz is still all over the place Meanwhile, Santos, GP2, Moody, and Spencer were all given minutes and did absolutely nothing with them. Post got 3 minutes of playing time after 6 in the last game, 2 games and 0 shots taken, not enough to learn whether he can help or not. Hield is literally the only guy on the team who can make a 3.

IDK what you can take from this game that helps you figure out a game plan for the next one, the Wolves are beatable but the Warriors are a **** mess.

totally agree. there seem to be no lessons learned from this particular game apart that moody is unplayable at this stage and hield is the only one who can make a 3. there is not much to figure out, they need to play lockdown defense everygame, deny them the 3 point line, win the rebound battle and give edwards different coverage throughout the game. these are the basics. without these the rest is meaninghless.

[AirP.]

You probably need to see the chemistry. Kuminga and Butler have not played that much. If Kuminga is going to play a role going forward you need to see how those two play together.

While risking injury with Curry already out? If you want to see chemistry hold a short practice tomorrow in GS. Despite the score, this game was winnable without the wacky lineups.

Idk, that was a cute little run to cut the lead to 7, but at no point did I think the Warriors were really threatening to win the game.

Had Butler played 40+ minutes, it would have been an under 10 point game, close enough for striking distance. Butler's 34 minutes was only a -4 , decreasing the time without him on the bench would have helped greatly.

GS should take at least 1 of the next 2 games if not both if Kerr plays to win.

[superunknown]

but is jimmy 100%?
it doesn't look like it.

[Twinkie defense]

Got the split.

If you woulda heard last week, Warriors go into Minny and get the split, you'd say hell yeah!

Five game series now, with three in SF.

[powerball1373]

While risking injury with Curry already out? If you want to see chemistry hold a short practice tomorrow in GS. Despite the score, this game was winnable without the wacky lineups.

Idk, that was a cute little run to cut the lead to 7, but at no point did I think the Warriors were really threatening to win the game.

Had Butler played 40+ minutes, it would have been an under 10 point game, close enough for striking distance. Butler's 34 minutes was only a -4 , decreasing the time without him on the bench would have helped greatly.

GS should take at least 1 of the next 2 games if not both if Kerr plays to win.

Yeah but nobody was able to strike lol. This game was always going to be tough, even if Steph was available. Stressing Jimmy to 40+ minutes just to lose anyway would've been pointless.

[cpower]

they should play Looney 30 mins and slow the game down. We cant score anyway...we cant beat them at their game.

[Onus]

This was a try out game. Don’t think Kerr was trying to win this game at all costs. Want to make sure Jimmy doesn’t play 40+ in a game Kerr isn’t actually trying to win.

I mean maybe but this game was there for the taking even in spite of all the terrible shooting and dumbass turnovers. I hate sacrificial games, if the Dubs did manage to take this one and go up 2-0, it would put them in command of the series and the Wolves would be completely demoralized.

Wolves are not very impressive, Dubs played an unimaginably awful game and still had (perhaps outside) chances to take it.

So what are the lessons learned from the sacrifice? Are Kuminga and TJD really playable or was it an aberration? Moody looks like a guy who should not even see 1 minute on the court right now. Podz is still all over the place Meanwhile, Santos, GP2, Moody, and Spencer were all given minutes and did absolutely nothing with them. Post got 3 minutes of playing time after 6 in the last game, 2 games and 0 shots taken, not enough to learn whether he can help or not. Hield is literally the only guy on the team who can make a 3.

IDK what you can take from this game that helps you figure out a game plan for the next one, the Wolves are beatable but the Warriors are a **** mess.

totally agree. there seem to be no lessons learned from this particular game apart that moody is unplayable at this stage and hield is the only one who can make a 3. there is not much to figure out, they need to play lockdown defense everygame, deny them the 3 point line, win the rebound battle and give edwards different coverage throughout the game. these are the basics. without these the rest is meaninghless.

Lesson learned is that this is a jk and tjd series. Moody and post aren’t really playable. Not sure we can just dump the ball to Jimmy and have him carry the offense every time down the floor either. Not a great matchup for that. I mean the wolves stopped Luka and lebron who are much better at it than Jimmy is. I wouldn’t really expect a playoff Jimmy take over.

If Jimmy and dray were in their 20s fine push them 40 every game but they’re both 35 coming off a grueling 7 game series playing every other day. This game was always going to be tough to get and we weren’t really close enough to push them to 40 especially without Steph and without Jimmy being able to dominate.

We just need to win 1 of the next 2. Probably game 4 would be my guess where Kerr starts to stretch their minutes again unless game 3 is close or can hit some 3s in that game.

[Onus]

It's crazy that currently GS is -19 with Butler off the court, he's a +/- 0. That's -19 in 11 minutes.

The team is not good outside of Steph jimmy and dray. They’re mostly young and raw or severely limited offensively.

[Onus]

Wolves shooting 50/40 tonight. It's a pointless game when we can not defend. Steve needs to make changes or we will get blown out every night.. where is the No.1 defense in the league?

Kerr's played 14 players, there's no way to get any continuity with that many combinations on the court, it's like Kerr is using this as a preseason game (which he might be doing) but boy do I hate punting any games in the playoffs.

Kerr special to punt games.

[DonaldSanders]

Wolves shooting 50/40 tonight. It's a pointless game when we can not defend. Steve needs to make changes or we will get blown out every night.. where is the No.1 defense in the league?

Kerr's played 14 players, there's no way to get any continuity with that many combinations on the court, it's like Kerr is using this as a preseason game (which he might be doing) but boy do I hate punting any games in the playoffs.

Kerr special to punt games.

I think Steve knew the momentum would shift tonight and that it would be a totally different game. He wanted to see what combos and who would work for the 2 home games. I thought it would be nearly impossible for us to win tonight with Steph out and the Wolves hungry for a win, so it made sense to try guys.

But if we go down 3-1, I hope Steph doesn't attempt a heroic comeback... the season is probably cooked with him not going to be 100%, he relies to much on quick cuts/bursts to get open. Nobody needs their hamstring more than Steph. I'd hate to see him get a career ending injury.

Next year we'd be a higher seed, be able to give Steph rest at the end of the year, and hopefully have 1-2 more solid rotation guy (especially at PG) so Steph doesn't have to play 40 minutes.

[marthafokker]

Love Kerr icing his hot guys. Backup to 18 points benching the hot hands. Only to bring them back after icing them.

[DAWill1128]

They got blown out early. The starting lineup tonight got blown out right away. We lost the first quarter by 14 points, an amount we could not overcome despite playing them about even every quarter after. The Post lineup did not have the foot speed to penetrate or limit the Wolves 3's.

I am not sure why Kerr went Post instead of GP2 when the lineup with GP2 carried you down the stretch in game 1. Kerr rolled the dice and the game was over quick.

The only bright spot of tonight was figuring out that Kuminga could put the Wolves in scramble and defend Edwards. Let Kuminga compete with Edwards on both ends, probably the most engaged I have ever seen him.

C Green
PF Butler
SF Kuminga
SG Hield
PG Podz

Always have 2 of 3 of Butler, Kuminga, Buddy on the floor. We had long stretches with only one of them and looked horrendous offensively.

Always have GP2 or Kuminga on Edwards for the full duration Edwards is in.

Green or Looney in the game at all times to play anchor defender. They should play them together and grind the Wolves down at times even if the spacing sucks.

At times they might want to consider Jimmy at point guard if Podz or Spencer aren't holding up on either end.

C Green
PF Santos
SF Kuminga
SG Hield
PG Butler

[cpower]

I mean maybe but this game was there for the taking even in spite of all the terrible shooting and dumbass turnovers. I hate sacrificial games, if the Dubs did manage to take this one and go up 2-0, it would put them in command of the series and the Wolves would be completely demoralized.

Wolves are not very impressive, Dubs played an unimaginably awful game and still had (perhaps outside) chances to take it.

So what are the lessons learned from the sacrifice? Are Kuminga and TJD really playable or was it an aberration? Moody looks like a guy who should not even see 1 minute on the court right now. Podz is still all over the place Meanwhile, Santos, GP2, Moody, and Spencer were all given minutes and did absolutely nothing with them. Post got 3 minutes of playing time after 6 in the last game, 2 games and 0 shots taken, not enough to learn whether he can help or not. Hield is literally the only guy on the team who can make a 3.

IDK what you can take from this game that helps you figure out a game plan for the next one, the Wolves are beatable but the Warriors are a **** mess.

totally agree. there seem to be no lessons learned from this particular game apart that moody is unplayable at this stage and hield is the only one who can make a 3. there is not much to figure out, they need to play lockdown defense everygame, deny them the 3 point line, win the rebound battle and give edwards different coverage throughout the game. these are the basics. without these the rest is meaninghless.

Lesson learned is that this is a jk and tjd series. Moody and post aren’t really playable. Not sure we can just dump the ball to Jimmy and have him carry the offense every time down the floor either. Not a great matchup for that. I mean the wolves stopped Luka and lebron who are much better at it than Jimmy is. I wouldn’t really expect a playoff Jimmy take over.

If Jimmy and dray were in their 20s fine push them 40 every game but they’re both 35 coming off a grueling 7 game series playing every other day. This game was always going to be tough to get and we weren’t really close enough to push them to 40 especially without Steph and without Jimmy being able to dominate.

We just need to win 1 of the next 2. Probably game 4 would be my guess where Kerr starts to stretch their minutes again unless game 3 is close or can hit some 3s in that game.

is it? what is the chance that TJD and JK becoming completely unplayable next game? I say pretty high. JK was having the hot hand tonight and they should have put more effort in this because you will probably never get another game like this again. What i think will happen is JK start on Saturday we are down 15 1st quarter again then Kerr will wave the white flag and try something else in g4....role player are role players afterall.

stat of the day: TJD: 6/6 for 15 pts but -15 in 20mins

[powerball1373]

but is jimmy 100%?
it doesn't look like it.

I sure hope not lol. If that was Jimmy at 100%, that would not bode well for the Warriors next two years.

[ILOVEIT]

I am still a little concerned that Jimmy hasn't embraced his primary scorer role yet. I'm really hoping it's just them not showing their cards, but the fact that he hasn't shown that mode basically all year is making me think it might not be coming.

This game is just like game 2 of Houston. Warriors got game one....and they are saving energy for home. There only reasonable chance is to hope to get one game at home....be 2-2 or 2-3 when Curry is able to come back.

Man I wish we could figure out how to include Kuminga in a winning way.