2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (Series tied 1-1)

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Who wins?

Poll ended at Sat May 10, 2025 4:14 pm

Wolves in 5
18
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Wolves in 6
18
30%
Wolves in 7
5
8%
Warriors in 4
1
2%
Warriors in 5
1
2%
Warriors in 6
10
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Warriors in 7
7
12%
 
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (Series tied 1-1) 

Post#521 » by UcanUwill » Fri May 9, 2025 4:38 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:Post started this game. As starting center, he played 3 minutes and was -13.

That was such a strange move to me. Most of Kerr's rotations have had me scratching my head. I thought Golden State would have a coaching advantage over Minnesota, but so far it feels like Kerr has just been experimenting as if this is his first playoff series.


Yeah, he does not know either his starting or closing lineup. Thats how usually is in Europe, but Euro teams usually have like 8 top players who are pretty interchangeable, NBA requires more consistency.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (Series tied 1-1) 

Post#522 » by Klomp » Fri May 9, 2025 4:45 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:Post started this game. As starting center, he played 3 minutes and was -13.

That was such a strange move to me. Most of Kerr's rotations have had me scratching my head. I thought Golden State would have a coaching advantage over Minnesota, but so far it feels like Kerr has just been experimenting as if this is his first playoff series.


Yeah, he does not know either his starting or closing lineup. Thats how usually is in Europe, but Euro teams usually have like 8 top players who are pretty interchangeable, NBA requires more consistency.

People have dogged Chris Finch for his "8 starters" mentality, but I think that is proving fruitful so far in this postseason. Even if we haven't had perfection from every individual, having that rotational consistency I think is what allows a guy like Nickeil Alexander-Walker to bounce back and have by far the best game of his postseason so far. Finch also leaves flexibility within the 8 though, as bench players regularly play more minutes than starters. Last night, Naz Reid played more minutes than Rudy Gobert and both Nickeil Alexander-Walker and Donte DiVincenzo played more minutes than Mike Conley.
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Post#523 » by Klomp » Fri May 9, 2025 4:48 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (Series tied 1-1) 

Post#524 » by cgf » Fri May 9, 2025 4:55 pm

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Jimmy is a #2 now but still, if nobody else wants to handle the rock or hit open shots his job is sort of impossible.

We're just used to watching Steph do the impossible but that doesn't mean Jimmy isn't still good.

Also I just think the Warriors went out there like let these guys win this one so we can save energy.


Yeah, if you had someone like Turner and a healthy steph I'd really like your chances. But without steph or a quality center, I just don't see how you overcome this matchup. Despite Jimmy still being a very crafty #2.


Why the Warriors refuse to add average starting level center, I just cannot understand.

Steph getting the hamstring seems related to him having to rebound so much etc. in the last series.


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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (Series tied 1-1) 

Post#525 » by cgf » Fri May 9, 2025 4:56 pm

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Klomp wrote:That was such a strange move to me. Most of Kerr's rotations have had me scratching my head. I thought Golden State would have a coaching advantage over Minnesota, but so far it feels like Kerr has just been experimenting as if this is his first playoff series.


Yeah, he does not know either his starting or closing lineup. Thats how usually is in Europe, but Euro teams usually have like 8 top players who are pretty interchangeable, NBA requires more consistency.

People have dogged Chris Finch for his "8 starters" mentality, but I think that is proving fruitful so far in this postseason. Even if we haven't had perfection from every individual, having that rotational consistency I think is what allows a guy like Nickeil Alexander-Walker to bounce back and have by far the best game of his postseason so far. Finch also leaves flexibility within the 8 though, as bench players regularly play more minutes than starters. Last night, Naz Reid played more minutes than Rudy Gobert and both Nickeil Alexander-Walker and Donte DiVincenzo played more minutes than Donte DiVincenzo.


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Post#526 » by cgf » Fri May 9, 2025 4:58 pm

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Post#527 » by Klomp » Fri May 9, 2025 5:02 pm

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Dangit! :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (Series tied 1-1) 

Post#528 » by Black Jack » Fri May 9, 2025 5:08 pm

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Yeah, if you had someone like Turner and a healthy steph I'd really like your chances. But without steph or a quality center, I just don't see how you overcome this matchup. Despite Jimmy still being a very crafty #2.


Why the Warriors refuse to add average starting level center, I just cannot understand.

Steph getting the hamstring seems related to him having to rebound so much etc. in the last series.


I'm already developing a rep as a Warriors hater, so I didn't want to be the one to say that...but I think there's likely some truth to it. At his age asking Steph to do that much is dangerous. And I'm a Thibs-defender who is thinking that :lol:


Why add Jimmy if you don't go all-in and get a serviceable big man too?

Warriors fans have no right to complain the but the whole dual timeline thing was always stupid. When you have an all timer like Curry just focus on wining with that horse as much as possible.

That said I think Curry/Jimmy/Draymond have at least one more year to make a run so even if it doesn't happen this year they have another swing at the bat to finally add somebody over 6-7 and athletic to the roster.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (GSW leads 1-0) 

Post#529 » by cgf » Fri May 9, 2025 5:08 pm

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The wolves are really good and just a brutal matchup for you, even if steph hadn't gone down. They are a lot dumber than you, but just so much bigger and more athletic. With that endless cycle of drivers leveraging that advantage to keep a defense under constant pressure. If they were also a high IQ team or consistent sharpshooters, we'd be talking about one of the absolutely best offenses in the NBA.

Best thing that can happen for the wolves imo (other than a magical title run) is for Randle to continue to play well and up his value enough that they can flip him for some more positive value and sell high there. Ant is Ant, but you can at least surround him with smarter/headier players (I also think Randle sulks too much when things aren't going his team's way).


Midway through the season, I figured the Wolves would let Randle walk this offseason if they couldn't find a sign and trade. With Naz and NAW as free agents this summer, and us already being a second apron team, I figured Randle was going to end up a rental and a tool to help us navigate the cap.

Now it's been months of him simply being core to our identity. A lot of secondary stars in the NBA aren't necessarily perfect fits with the primary star. They bring value by being a talent add, but sometimes have to suppress their games or get out the way to support the primary star. Randle and Coach Finch have figured out how to make sure this is not the case in Minnesota. Randle driving off the catch whenever teams load up on Ant has been the consistent life force of our offense. He injects a ton of rim protection and functional playmaking into our offense, while also being a super confident shooter when he's open. Defensively, he's not great, but he's found a role as a strong matchup defender, and the effort level is much more consistent.

It's night and day. Randle was a ball stopping black hole with zero effort on defense. Now he's quite often the best all-around player on the floor.


Yeah. I was really worried things wouldn't click before your FO had to make a decision on what to do with him, and Randle would lose this opportunity; ending up miscast again as a #1 and having to drag some mess like the Hornets or Kings to wins. So it's hard for me to be happier about the way things have worked out and you're getting one of the most fun versions of Randle...a player who has reinvented his game almost every season since leaving the Lakers...that I've seen yet.

Although the Randle we got after those first 6 games last year will always be a personal favorite. Watching him try to outduel Giannis & an army of giants at the Fiserv Forum in the IST, when no other knick made the trip up to Milwaukee, was so much fun. Giannis is such a supernatural humanbeing in person, and Julius was just plowing right through him & 2 other guys to light them up; which worked for the better part of 3 quarters :lol:

Now if only we could get a little home cooking from the refs for KAT in games 3 & 4...because the Celtics have no answer for him when he's not in foul-trouble, even without him getting any calls on his drives...everything would be perfect with the NBA.
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Post#530 » by Klomp » Fri May 9, 2025 5:11 pm

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Why the Warriors refuse to add average starting level center, I just cannot understand.

Steph getting the hamstring seems related to him having to rebound so much etc. in the last series.


I'm already developing a rep as a Warriors hater, so I didn't want to be the one to say that...but I think there's likely some truth to it. At his age asking Steph to do that much is dangerous. And I'm a Thibs-defender who is thinking that :lol:


Why add Jimmy if you don't go all-in and get a serviceable big man too?

Warriors fans have no right to complain the but the whole dual timeline thing was always stupid. When you have an all timer like Curry just focus on wining with that horse as much as possible.

That said I think Curry/Jimmy/Draymond have at least one more year to make a run so even if it doesn't happen this year they have another swing at the bat to finally add somebody over 6-7 and athletic to the roster.

I guess the thought is that Draymond is the big man?
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Post#531 » by cgf » Fri May 9, 2025 5:14 pm

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Why the Warriors refuse to add average starting level center, I just cannot understand.

Steph getting the hamstring seems related to him having to rebound so much etc. in the last series.


I'm already developing a rep as a Warriors hater, so I didn't want to be the one to say that...but I think there's likely some truth to it. At his age asking Steph to do that much is dangerous. And I'm a Thibs-defender who is thinking that :lol:


Why add Jimmy if you don't go all-in and get a serviceable big man too?

Warriors fans have no right to complain the but the whole dual timeline thing was always stupid. When you have an all timer like Curry just focus on wining with that horse as much as possible.

That said I think Curry/Jimmy/Draymond have at least one more year to make a run so even if it doesn't happen this year they have another swing at the bat to finally add somebody over 6-7 and athletic to the roster.


I fully agree. I thought that they unless Steph wanted them to give Klay a lifetime contract no matter the price...which in hindsight we know wasn't the case...they should've pounced last season to bring in Caruso, Lavine, and Siakam.

Steph - Lavine - Wiggins - Siakam - Draymond
Podz - Caruso - TJD/Looney

Would've been a really fun little rotation with Siakam and Lavine being able to carry the offense when Steph rests; with Caruso there to close games in place of Lavine or Wiggins, depending on what they needed in a given game.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (Series tied 1-1) 

Post#532 » by cgf » Fri May 9, 2025 5:17 pm

Klomp wrote:
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cgf wrote:
I'm already developing a rep as a Warriors hater, so I didn't want to be the one to say that...but I think there's likely some truth to it. At his age asking Steph to do that much is dangerous. And I'm a Thibs-defender who is thinking that :lol:


Why add Jimmy if you don't go all-in and get a serviceable big man too?

Warriors fans have no right to complain the but the whole dual timeline thing was always stupid. When you have an all timer like Curry just focus on wining with that horse as much as possible.

That said I think Curry/Jimmy/Draymond have at least one more year to make a run so even if it doesn't happen this year they have another swing at the bat to finally add somebody over 6-7 and athletic to the roster.

I guess the thought is that Draymond is the big man?


For a long time he was. But it's just too easy for real big men to push him around nowadays, even if he'll still get his highlight plays from time to time. He just doesn't have the explosiveness or power to make up for the size differential like he once could.
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Post#533 » by Klomp » Fri May 9, 2025 5:25 pm

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The wolves are really good and just a brutal matchup for you, even if steph hadn't gone down. They are a lot dumber than you, but just so much bigger and more athletic. With that endless cycle of drivers leveraging that advantage to keep a defense under constant pressure. If they were also a high IQ team or consistent sharpshooters, we'd be talking about one of the absolutely best offenses in the NBA.

Best thing that can happen for the wolves imo (other than a magical title run) is for Randle to continue to play well and up his value enough that they can flip him for some more positive value and sell high there. Ant is Ant, but you can at least surround him with smarter/headier players (I also think Randle sulks too much when things aren't going his team's way).


Midway through the season, I figured the Wolves would let Randle walk this offseason if they couldn't find a sign and trade. With Naz and NAW as free agents this summer, and us already being a second apron team, I figured Randle was going to end up a rental and a tool to help us navigate the cap.

Now it's been months of him simply being core to our identity. A lot of secondary stars in the NBA aren't necessarily perfect fits with the primary star. They bring value by being a talent add, but sometimes have to suppress their games or get out the way to support the primary star. Randle and Coach Finch have figured out how to make sure this is not the case in Minnesota. Randle driving off the catch whenever teams load up on Ant has been the consistent life force of our offense. He injects a ton of rim protection and functional playmaking into our offense, while also being a super confident shooter when he's open. Defensively, he's not great, but he's found a role as a strong matchup defender, and the effort level is much more consistent.

It's night and day. Randle was a ball stopping black hole with zero effort on defense. Now he's quite often the best all-around player on the floor.

I think this is an excellent recap and analysis of the situation.

Coming in, I saw DiVincenzo as the "prize" of the trade. Not necessarily because I thought he was better than Julius, but I always viewed going from Towns to Randle as close enough value on the court and a win for potential cap flexibility.

But what has really turned the tables over the course of the season is how Finch has been using him. Yes, Thibs and Finch both used Julius as a hub, but he's ued in different ways. In the past, I've called his role changing from Al Jefferson in New York to Lamar Odom in Minnesota. It's just a different kind of role, and it's a better fit for the offense Finch wants to run. Towns could never play that way, and he couldn't (or wouldn't) really play off the initial action as a spacer (speaking to willingness, not ability here). The Finch offense needs corner spacers, and Towns took an extremely low number despite his reputation as a spacer. It just wasn't the kind of spacer Finch needed. It wasn't the kind of big man Finch needed in the initial action either. These are major reasons why Ant and KAT never got on the same page on the court.

I don't know what I would do this offseason though. I think using him as a trade piece is an option, but I also think that they're not going to want to part with him. I think it has to be for the right value and for the right player in return if they move on.
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Post#534 » by Onus » Fri May 9, 2025 5:25 pm

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I'm already developing a rep as a Warriors hater, so I didn't want to be the one to say that...but I think there's likely some truth to it. At his age asking Steph to do that much is dangerous. And I'm a Thibs-defender who is thinking that :lol:


Why add Jimmy if you don't go all-in and get a serviceable big man too?

Warriors fans have no right to complain the but the whole dual timeline thing was always stupid. When you have an all timer like Curry just focus on wining with that horse as much as possible.

That said I think Curry/Jimmy/Draymond have at least one more year to make a run so even if it doesn't happen this year they have another swing at the bat to finally add somebody over 6-7 and athletic to the roster.


I fully agree. I thought that they unless Steph wanted them to give Klay a lifetime contract no matter the price...which in hindsight we know wasn't the case...they should've pounced last season to bring in Caruso, Lavine, and Siakam.

Steph - Lavine - Wiggins - Siakam - Draymond
Podz - Caruso - TJD/Looney

Would've been a really fun little rotation with Siakam and Lavine being able to carry the offense when Steph rests; with Caruso there to close games in place of Lavine or Wiggins, depending on what they needed in a given game.

The issue is that the Front Office / Owners want a 2nd time line and don't want to give up assets for post Steph. But Steph is still good enough to compete so we spend half the season trying to develop raw athletes and then we have to go into win now mode and end up playing 2 extra months of playoff basketball to make the playoffs. This has been a front office issue not having a singular goal for the current season.
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Post#535 » by Impuniti » Fri May 9, 2025 5:36 pm

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Why the Warriors refuse to add average starting level center, I just cannot understand.

Steph getting the hamstring seems related to him having to rebound so much etc. in the last series.


I'm already developing a rep as a Warriors hater, so I didn't want to be the one to say that...but I think there's likely some truth to it. At his age asking Steph to do that much is dangerous. And I'm a Thibs-defender who is thinking that :lol:


Why add Jimmy if you don't go all-in and get a serviceable big man too?

Warriors fans have no right to complain the but the whole dual timeline thing was always stupid. When you have an all timer like Curry just focus on wining with that horse as much as possible.

That said I think Curry/Jimmy/Draymond have at least one more year to make a run so even if it doesn't happen this year they have another swing at the bat to finally add somebody over 6-7 and athletic to the roster.

Well they could have had a dual timeline, they could have Hali and Wagner right now instead of guys that are DNPs or atrocious.
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Post#536 » by Klomp » Fri May 9, 2025 5:39 pm

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Post#537 » by cgf » Fri May 9, 2025 6:10 pm

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I'm already developing a rep as a Warriors hater, so I didn't want to be the one to say that...but I think there's likely some truth to it. At his age asking Steph to do that much is dangerous. And I'm a Thibs-defender who is thinking that :lol:


Why add Jimmy if you don't go all-in and get a serviceable big man too?

Warriors fans have no right to complain the but the whole dual timeline thing was always stupid. When you have an all timer like Curry just focus on wining with that horse as much as possible.

That said I think Curry/Jimmy/Draymond have at least one more year to make a run so even if it doesn't happen this year they have another swing at the bat to finally add somebody over 6-7 and athletic to the roster.

Well they could have had a dual timeline, they could have Hali and Wagner right now instead of guys that are DNPs or atrocious.


They obviously whiffed with their high picks, but even if they had picked those guys, we don't know that they would be who they are now if they had to develop in steph's shadow. We've seen that story way too many times in the NBA and development is too murky.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (GSW leads 1-0) 

Post#539 » by cgf » Fri May 9, 2025 6:24 pm

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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Best thing that can happen for the wolves imo (other than a magical title run) is for Randle to continue to play well and up his value enough that they can flip him for some more positive value and sell high there. Ant is Ant, but you can at least surround him with smarter/headier players (I also think Randle sulks too much when things aren't going his team's way).


Midway through the season, I figured the Wolves would let Randle walk this offseason if they couldn't find a sign and trade. With Naz and NAW as free agents this summer, and us already being a second apron team, I figured Randle was going to end up a rental and a tool to help us navigate the cap.

Now it's been months of him simply being core to our identity. A lot of secondary stars in the NBA aren't necessarily perfect fits with the primary star. They bring value by being a talent add, but sometimes have to suppress their games or get out the way to support the primary star. Randle and Coach Finch have figured out how to make sure this is not the case in Minnesota. Randle driving off the catch whenever teams load up on Ant has been the consistent life force of our offense. He injects a ton of rim protection and functional playmaking into our offense, while also being a super confident shooter when he's open. Defensively, he's not great, but he's found a role as a strong matchup defender, and the effort level is much more consistent.

It's night and day. Randle was a ball stopping black hole with zero effort on defense. Now he's quite often the best all-around player on the floor.

I think this is an excellent recap and analysis of the situation.

Coming in, I saw DiVincenzo as the "prize" of the trade. Not necessarily because I thought he was better than Julius, but I always viewed going from Towns to Randle as close enough value on the court and a win for potential cap flexibility.

But what has really turned the tables over the course of the season is how Finch has been using him. Yes, Thibs and Finch both used Julius as a hub, but he's ued in different ways. In the past, I've called his role changing from Al Jefferson in New York to Lamar Odom in Minnesota. It's just a different kind of role, and it's a better fit for the offense Finch wants to run. Towns could never play that way, and he couldn't (or wouldn't) really play off the initial action as a spacer (speaking to willingness, not ability here). The Finch offense needs corner spacers, and Towns took an extremely low number despite his reputation as a spacer. It just wasn't the kind of spacer Finch needed. It wasn't the kind of big man Finch needed in the initial action either. These are major reasons why Ant and KAT never got on the same page on the court.

I don't know what I would do this offseason though. I think using him as a trade piece is an option, but I also think that they're not going to want to part with him. I think it has to be for the right value and for the right player in return if they move on.


Although I get what you're saying about the shift from being a main scorer to more of an over-qualified glue guy...but Jefferson never generated open 3s for his team-mate the way Julius did for us; which fit perfectly (after the OG trade) on a team that had more natural shooters around Randle than you do, but fewer guys who generated rim pressure & FTs outside of Ju + Ant/Brunson.

Dude was giving us 25-10-5 on nearly 60% TS while generating that ridiculous # of open 3s. And ever since Brunson arrived his avg touch time was even faster than it has been for the Wolves...3.20 sec/touch with MIN, 3.15 last season for us, 3.00 the year before.

That ankle injury against Miami might have been the biggest blessing in disguise possible. Yes it was a big part of his Knicks tenure ending, but the way he's played since not being able to put weight on his ankle forced him to start watching tape, is just everything I always hoped we'd see from the big fella.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (Series tied 1-1) 

Post#540 » by Black Jack » Fri May 9, 2025 6:56 pm

cgf wrote:
Impuniti wrote:
Black Jack wrote:
Why add Jimmy if you don't go all-in and get a serviceable big man too?

Warriors fans have no right to complain the but the whole dual timeline thing was always stupid. When you have an all timer like Curry just focus on wining with that horse as much as possible.

That said I think Curry/Jimmy/Draymond have at least one more year to make a run so even if it doesn't happen this year they have another swing at the bat to finally add somebody over 6-7 and athletic to the roster.

Well they could have had a dual timeline, they could have Hali and Wagner right now instead of guys that are DNPs or atrocious.


They obviously whiffed with their high picks, but even if they had picked those guys, we don't know that they would be who they are now if they had to develop in steph's shadow. We've seen that story way too many times in the NBA and development is too murky.


If we had picked Halli and Franz the NBA would be in a major blender right now.

We KNOW how Steph blends with other star players and it's GOAT level offensive impact with zero ego. Get real.
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