WT: Giannis Antetokounmpo's Future With Bucks 'The Elephant In The Room' In NBA

[Los_29]

That quote is so beautiful it should be hung in the Louvre

What's beautiful is how none of these teams that accumulate picks ever win a chip. And you guys have no perceptive value of picks that resembles the reality of outcomes.

That's what is really hilarious.

4 years ago your type was all over the Atlanta hawks."why can't we be more like the Atlantic hawks" lol

Watch what happens to okc 14 months from now when they have to pay their prospects. They have a 14 month window. Two shots at a chip. Then they will be handcuffed.

You'd know that if you could add.

This isn't a complicated question: which NBA franchise won a chip because they accumulated draft picks through trade?

I'll let you sit on that.

Boston.

This isn’t a good example because it capitalized on another team’s stupidity. Boston was always competing and Tatum and Brown have never been on a losing team. Boston was also not going out and stockpiling picks. In fact, they were even trading some.

[Scase]

What's beautiful is how none of these teams that accumulate picks ever win a chip. And you guys have no perceptive value of picks that resembles the reality of outcomes.

That's what is really hilarious.

4 years ago your type was all over the Atlanta hawks."why can't we be more like the Atlantic hawks" lol

Watch what happens to okc 14 months from now when they have to pay their prospects. They have a 14 month window. Two shots at a chip. Then they will be handcuffed.

You'd know that if you could add.

This isn't a complicated question: which NBA franchise won a chip because they accumulated draft picks through trade?

I'll let you sit on that.

Boston.

This isn’t a good example because it capitalized on another team’s stupidity. Boston was always competing and Tatum and Brown have never been on a losing team. Boston was also not going out and stockpiling picks. In fact, they were even trading some.

Capitalizing on another teams weakness to succeed moving forward, what is this, a competitive sport or something? The excuses never end with you eh?

Only farm to table, conflict free championships matter here boys, lock it up. Time to give back our 2019 chip.

[Pointgod]

"There's no difference between pick 20 and pick 33"

That quote is so beautiful it should be hung in the Louvre

What's beautiful is how none of these teams that accumulate picks ever win a chip. And you guys have no perceptive value of picks that resembles the reality of outcomes.

That's what is really hilarious.

4 years ago your type was all over the Atlanta hawks."why can't we be more like the Atlantic hawks" lol

Watch what happens to okc 14 months from now when they have to pay their prospects. They have a 14 month window. Two shots at a chip. Then they will be handcuffed.

You'd know that if you could add.

This isn't a complicated question: which NBA franchise won a chip because they accumulated draft picks through trade?

I'll let you sit on that.

You need to look at this from the perspective of the team trading a superstar. If you’re a rebuilding team who’s sent out your own picks to other teams, you’d have to be idiotic to not get massive amounts of picks or young assets back in those trades. This is the new NBA and picks and talented young players on rookie contracts are more valuable than non allstars getting paid 30+ million a year.

On the flip side you’ve had posters in here arguing that we shouldn’t trade for Giannis because it would kill our depth and flexibility. Well the best way to compensate for that is to have enough picks and assets to make a trade for Giannis while still having enough ammo to fill out the depth of the roster. There’s no good argument against prioritizing picks in a rebuild if your plan is to eventually trade for a star. And if you’re in the situation like OKC where you pay for developing talent, then that’s a good position to be in because you have more flexibility and options vs having overpaid vets that are harder to move.

[Pointgod]

Boston.

This isn’t a good example because it capitalized on another team’s stupidity. Boston was always competing and Tatum and Brown have never been on a losing team. Boston was also not going out and stockpiling picks. In fact, they were even trading some.

Capitalizing on another teams weakness to succeed moving forward, what is this, a competitive sport or something? The excuses never end with you eh?

Only farm to table, conflict free championships matter here boys, lock it up. Time to give back our 2019 chip.

Boston is the worst example to use against focusing on picks lol. I mean this was the actual trade when the Nets has Deron Williams and Brook Lopez on the roster.

The Celtics will receive Gerald Wallace, MarShon Brooks, Kris Humphries [expiring contract], Keith Bogans [via sign-and-trade], Kris Joseph and first-round draft picks in 2014, 2016 and 2018. The Celtics also have the right to swap first-round picks with the Nets in 2017.

Celtics tried to tank, Brad Stevens was just too good of a coach.

[bballsparkin]

Also the Cavs, they only had Kyrie Irving due to the trade they made with the Clippers post LeBron to Miami. It's arguable LeBron doesn't even return if they don't have a clear second star, so it completely turned the franchise around and led to the title + year of them making the NBA Finals.

The Cavs also traded the #1 pick (Wiggins) for Love.

[JB7]

Jimmy to PHX
KD to GS
Giannis to Houston
Milwaukee gets Jalen green + Jabari Smith + Kuminga picks from Houston and 1 pick from GS

You got this mixed up.

It would be Giannis to GSW, and KD to Houston. KD already rejected a deal to GSW at the trade deadline. I don't think he has any interest in playing with Dray again.

[JB7]

No surprise

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

A mid-sized glamour market. Sounds like GSW.

[DreamTeam09]

Jimmy to PHX
KD to GS
Giannis to Houston
Milwaukee gets Jalen green + Jabari Smith + Kuminga picks from Houston and 1 pick from GS

You got this mixed up.

It would be Giannis to GSW, and KD to Houston. KD already rejected a deal to GSW at the trade deadline. I don't think he has any interest in playing with Dray again.

I thought he rejected the trade bcuz he didn't wanna be traded mid-szn. His words, but still he could be giving lip service
Ginnais to GS & KD to Houston makes sense as well

[WuTang_OG]

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

[Pointgod]

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Yeah they’re making a trade

[yellowknifer]

Jimmy to PHX
KD to GS
Giannis to Houston
Milwaukee gets Jalen green + Jabari Smith + Kuminga picks from Houston and 1 pick from GS

You got this mixed up.

It would be Giannis to GSW, and KD to Houston. KD already rejected a deal to GSW at the trade deadline. I don't think he has any interest in playing with Dray again.

I thought he rejected the trade bcuz he didn't wanna be traded mid-szn. His words, but still he could be giving lip service
Ginnais to GS & KD to Houston makes sense as well

Could be both things. Moving mid season has gotta be a pain in the ass and we all know Dray is who he is. Not for everyone.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

No surprise

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

A mid-sized glamour market. Sounds like GSW.

This tweet is like if you ask realgm what city Giannis would play in and we would come up with a similar list.
It’s just speculation for the sake of speculation

[Crowned]

Just because it'd be fun to watch, I'd love to see the Spurs pull it off so he could play next to Wemby.

[Dalek]

Toronto lacks draft assets to make a trade of this magnitude. Having our own picks is something, but we don't have much to offer unless the Bucks are into Barnes as a franchise guy.

[HangTime]

Toronto lacks draft assets to make a trade of this magnitude. Having our own picks is something, but we don't have much to offer unless the Bucks are into Barnes as a franchise guy.

Just like Steph, I hope the Bucks don't want Barnes.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Toronto lacks draft assets to make a trade of this magnitude. Having our own picks is something, but we don't have much to offer unless the Bucks are into Barnes as a franchise guy.

A top 7 pick and then 3 others won't be enough? Scottie not enough? What other franchise players are available exactly.

We can put together a strong package?

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Toronto lacks draft assets to make a trade of this magnitude. Having our own picks is something, but we don't have much to offer unless the Bucks are into Barnes as a franchise guy.

A top 7 pick and then 3 others won't be enough? Scottie not enough? What other franchise players are available exactly.

We can put together a strong package?

We can put together one of the best packages. Scottie jock riders running a bit scared right now.

[Dalek]

Toronto lacks draft assets to make a trade of this magnitude. Having our own picks is something, but we don't have much to offer unless the Bucks are into Barnes as a franchise guy.

A top 7 pick and then 3 others won't be enough? Scottie not enough? What other franchise players are available exactly.

We can put together a strong package?

We can put together one of the best packages. Scottie jock riders running a bit scared right now.

Honestly, I don't see the Bucks trading him, but in the recent past we saw:

Rudy Gobert trade package:
Utah got Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Jarred Vanderbilt, Leandro Bolmaro, No. 22 pick (Walker Kessler) plus four unprotected FRPs in 2023, 2025 and 2027 and a top-five-protected pick in 2029.

Donovan Mitchell trade package:
Jazz got Collin Sexton, Lauri Markkanen, Ochai Agbaji plus FRP 2025, 2028, plus 2026 and 2028 pick swap
2026 pick swap
2027 first-round pick
2028 pick swap
2029 first-round pick

IMO those guys are not even close to Giannis-level tier.

Teams like the Spurs, Nets, Rockets all have better assets to get a deal done because they have combos of picks and young players that are interesting. Toronto has drafted poorly outside of Barnes, and only offers its own picks to chip in which if the team is planning to be Giannis-level good become devalued to 20-30 FRPs.

/edit I didn't even add in OKC who can really acquire almost any player because of the current players and future draft assets they have.

[Pointgod]

A top 7 pick and then 3 others won't be enough? Scottie not enough? What other franchise players are available exactly.

We can put together a strong package?

We can put together one of the best packages. Scottie jock riders running a bit scared right now.

Honestly, I don't see the Bucks trading him, but in the recent past we saw:

Rudy Gobert trade package:
Utah got Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Jarred Vanderbilt, Leandro Bolmaro, No. 22 pick (Walker Kessler) plus four unprotected FRPs in 2023, 2025 and 2027 and a top-five-protected pick in 2029.

Donovan Mitchell trade package:
Jazz got Collin Sexton, Lauri Markkanen, Ochai Agbaji plus FRP 2025, 2028, plus 2026 and 2028 pick swap
2026 pick swap
2027 first-round pick
2028 pick swap
2029 first-round pick

IMO those guys are not even close to Giannis-level tier.

Teams like the Spurs, Nets, Rockets all have better assets to get a deal done because they have combos of picks and young players that are interesting. Toronto has drafted poorly outside of Barnes, and only offers its own picks to chip in which if the team is planning to be Giannis-level good become devalued to 20-30 FRPs.

/edit I didn't even add in OKC who can really acquire almost any player because of the current players and future draft assets they have.

Mikal Bridges trade package:

4 unprotected picks from the Knicks and 1 pick swap
1st round pick from the Bucks
Bunch of salary fodder

Kevin Durant package:
Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, 4 first round picks, 2 pick swaps

You’re seeing even second tier superstars go for massive pick packages and young talent. Giannis is a top 3 player and the Bucks all rightly ask for alot

[TheRaptor!]

A top 7 pick and then 3 others won't be enough? Scottie not enough? What other franchise players are available exactly.

We can put together a strong package?

We can put together one of the best packages. Scottie jock riders running a bit scared right now.

Honestly, I don't see the Bucks trading him, but in the recent past we saw:

Rudy Gobert trade package:
Utah got Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Jarred Vanderbilt, Leandro Bolmaro, No. 22 pick (Walker Kessler) plus four unprotected FRPs in 2023, 2025 and 2027 and a top-five-protected pick in 2029.

Donovan Mitchell trade package:
Jazz got Collin Sexton, Lauri Markkanen, Ochai Agbaji plus FRP 2025, 2028, plus 2026 and 2028 pick swap
2026 pick swap
2027 first-round pick
2028 pick swap
2029 first-round pick

IMO those guys are not even close to Giannis-level tier.

Teams like the Spurs, Nets, Rockets all have better assets to get a deal done because they have combos of picks and young players that are interesting. Toronto has drafted poorly outside of Barnes, and only offers its own picks to chip in which if the team is planning to be Giannis-level good become devalued to 20-30 FRPs.

/edit I didn't even add in OKC who can really acquire almost any player because of the current players and future draft assets they have.

what was the Butler package? Ingram?