2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10

contract · Post #1221 » by **contract** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:39 pm

VaDe255 wrote:What I heard:

- They need to make changes to win, be it philosophically or personal wise
- They build around Bam/Tyler, they are happy to have Herro and hope he can play his whole career here
- Getting out of the repearter tax is a priority

Sounds like they are running it back (meaning Herro/Bam are their best players)

It's good to get a heads up to not get invested.

Post #1222 » by **DayofMourning** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:43 pm

twix2500 wrote:I think when Spo returns there needs to be a real discussion on can Ware become a scorer.

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I think hes naturally gifted at it. Get some experience and let him get some shots up.

twix2500 · Post #1223 » by **twix2500** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:47 pm

contract wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:What I heard:

- They need to make changes to win, be it philosophically or personal wise
- They build around Bam/Tyler, they are happy to have Herro and hope he can play his whole career here
- Getting out of the repearter tax is a priority

Sounds like they are running it back (meaning Herro/Bam are their best players)

It's good to get a heads up to not get invested.

Lol you all know how to keep yourself angry

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twix2500 · Post #1224 » by **twix2500** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:47 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
twix2500 wrote:I think when Spo returns there needs to be a real discussion on can Ware become a scorer.

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I think hes naturally gifted at it. Get some experience and let him get some shots up.

IMO Spo has always struggled to coach a big to be a scorer.

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twix2500 · Post #1225 » by **twix2500** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:50 pm

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that Riley said Butler team foiled the trade market and their hands were strapped because Butler only accepting a trade to Warriors

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contract · Post #1226 » by **contract** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:55 pm

twix2500 wrote:
contract wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:What I heard:

- They need to make changes to win, be it philosophically or personal wise
- They build around Bam/Tyler, they are happy to have Herro and hope he can play his whole career here
- Getting out of the repearter tax is a priority

Sounds like they are running it back (meaning Herro/Bam are their best players)

It's good to get a heads up to not get invested.
Lol you all know how to keep yourself angry

I'm exhausted.

Kobewade11 · Post #1227 » by **Kobewade11** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:22 pm

twix2500 wrote:One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that Riley said Butler team foiled the trade market and their hands were strapped because Butler only accepting a trade to Warriors

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He mentioned he was locked into one team (phx) but it couldnt happen there so GS was the other

twix2500 · Post #1228 » by **twix2500** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:29 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that Riley said Butler team foiled the trade market and their hands were strapped because Butler only accepting a trade to Warriors

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He mentioned he was locked into one team (phx) but it couldnt happen there so GS was the other

Ok I couldn't remember if he mentioned PHX. Felt like I didn't hear it

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TroubleS0me · Post #1229 » by **TroubleS0me** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:36 pm

yes we are NOT gonna run it back lol
cmon get Giannis

SerialChiller · Post #1230 » by **SerialChiller** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:37 pm

contract wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Riley admits to tanking twice. In the Wade* and Beasley drafts.

Edit-MCJ beat me to it.

* Lebron draft

* Wade

TroubleS0me · Post #1231 » by **TroubleS0me** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:38 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
twix2500 wrote:I think when Spo returns there needs to be a real discussion on can Ware become a scorer.

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I think hes naturally gifted at it. Get some experience and let him get some shots up.

and his BB IQ needs to be get better.
He can be another Evan Mobley lite type of player.

Kobewade11 · Post #1232 » by **Kobewade11** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:41 pm

twix2500 wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that Riley said Butler team foiled the trade market and their hands were strapped because Butler only accepting a trade to Warriors

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He mentioned he was locked into one team (phx) but it couldnt happen there so GS was the other
Ok I couldn't remember if he mentioned PHX. Felt like I didn't hear it

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He didnt say phoenix directly is what I meant he just said he was locked into one team that couldnt get the deal done before moving to GS

Flash4thewin · Post #1233 » by **Flash4thewin** » Sat May 10, 2025 12:07 am

[quote="DayofMourning"]Riley admits to tanking twice. In the Wade and Beasley drafts.

Edit-MCJ beat me to it.[/quote]

We also tanked for Yao, but got Carron Butler in the process.

Flash4thewin · Post #1234 » by **Flash4thewin** » Sat May 10, 2025 12:10 am

DayofMourning wrote:Rozier, Duncan, Jaime and 2041 1st for KD?

That trims the roster down and keeps the ball in the hands of those who need it.

Load manage KD to where he only plays 2nd halves?

I can’t see the Sun's accepting that. The other issue is that trade puts us near the tax and makes keeping Mitchell difficult as well as killing the dream illusion mirage of 2026 when you factor KD and his extension. We are not in a good spot honestly.

Enso · Post #1235 » by **Enso** » Sat May 10, 2025 12:32 am

twix2500 wrote:Riley did show he was bothered by Butler's exit. Talks about all the memorable moments Butler had and how he has many memorable moments of Butler in his office. You can tell he is bothered by the age question and his mental state jokes. There was nothing negative he said. However, you can see the age is catching up with him. He is slowing down, his great speaking chops and charisma is fading. I don't feel Pat need to retire, however I think a new public team voice is now needed. And I think its time for Zo to step in and be that media public voice.

I don’t think we watched the same presser he sounded sharp

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #1236 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Sat May 10, 2025 12:33 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Riley admits to tanking twice. In the Wade and Beasley drafts.

Edit-MCJ beat me to it.

We also tanked for Yao, but got Carron Butler in the process.

It's funny, I posted like a week ago that those were the two drafts we tanked in, funny to see Riley actually confirm it.

I dunno that we tanked for Yao though, if you look at that season we definitely tried. Went out and got Rod Strickland/Jim Jackson/Kendall Gill/Laphonso Ellis, a who's who of 90's almost stars that were all on the backside of their careers, and Zo tried to come back and play the full season too. Just not enough talent, Zo was no longer a near MVP level player, the vet mercs were all somewhat washed, Timmy was gone, and EJ was never enough to really be the guy and carry a team.

Enso · Post #1237 » by **Enso** » Sat May 10, 2025 12:36 am

Call me crazy but I love these pat pressers. For those complaining you’re gonna miss him when’s he’s gone believe you me.

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #1238 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Sat May 10, 2025 12:37 am

I haven't watched the presser but unless he's had a sudden cognitive decline very recently I doubt he sounded bad.

I'm not a fan of how eager some are to get him out of town, people really don't understand how easily this franchise can slip and become irrelevant, another Hornets or Pelicans or Hawks. Just because "it's Miami" doesn't solve that, look at the Dolphins/Marlins. Miami is only a bonus as a location when everything else is top notch/competitive. Or conversely, Orlando should have a very similar advantage for a great landing spot, and look how bad its been for them since Shaq, save for a few Dwight/SVG runs.

Post #1239 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat May 10, 2025 1:01 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

Been telling you Bammy. This is the play that made sense all along. Even before the Riley presser. Been steadfast on this move. All the stars have aligned.

Post #1240 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat May 10, 2025 1:02 am

Enso wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Riley did show he was bothered by Butler's exit. Talks about all the memorable moments Butler had and how he has many memorable moments of Butler in his office. You can tell he is bothered by the age question and his mental state jokes. There was nothing negative he said. However, you can see the age is catching up with him. He is slowing down, his great speaking chops and charisma is fading. I don't feel Pat need to retire, however I think a new public team voice is now needed. And I think its time for Zo to step in and be that media public voice.

I don’t think we watched the same presser he sounded sharp

I agree