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Pointgod · Post #1021 » by **Pointgod** » Sat May 10, 2025 1:27 am

Clutch0z24 wrote:Donovan Mitchell is so good man.

He’s always been underrated

HumbleRen · Post #1022 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat May 10, 2025 1:35 am

Clutch0z24 wrote:Donovan Mitchell is so good man.

I had insane pushback on this forum for disagreeing with people who said Siakam is a better player than him.

Good times lol.

Tha Cynic · Post #1023 » by **Tha Cynic** » Sat May 10, 2025 1:39 am

Good to see the Cavs healthy. Man, the Pacers have had a ton of luck facing injured teams the last couple of seasons

Scizzup · Post #1024 » by **Scizzup** » Sat May 10, 2025 2:12 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:Donovan Mitchell is so good man.

I had insane pushback on this forum for disagreeing with people who said Siakam is a better player than him.

Good times lol.

You could have made that argument in 21/22 his last season in Utah (more of a toss up). But he has been noticeably better than Siakam since he got to Cleveland. Mostly because he took a leap in terms of pull up shooting, actually turned himself into an offensive hub.

I will note he has been kind of lucky playing with these great defensive bigs as bad guard defender, but yea he is special.

HumbleRen · Post #1025 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat May 10, 2025 2:15 am

Scizzup wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:Donovan Mitchell is so good man.

I had insane pushback on this forum for disagreeing with people who said Siakam is a better player than him.

Good times lol.

You could have made that argument in 21/22 his last season in Utah (more of a toss up). But he has been noticeably better than Siakam since he got to Cleveland. Mostly because he took a leap in terms of pull up shooting, actually turned himself into an offensive hub.

I will note he has been kind of lucky playing with these great defensive bigs as bad guard defender, but yea he is special.

And they’re lucky he’s so elite at creating offence. It goes both ways.

He’s just always been better than Siakam imo.

Clutch0z24 · Post #1026 » by **Clutch0z24** » Sat May 10, 2025 2:27 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Scizzup wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
I had insane pushback on this forum for disagreeing with people who said Siakam is a better player than him.

Good times lol.

You could have made that argument in 21/22 his last season in Utah (more of a toss up). But he has been noticeably better than Siakam since he got to Cleveland. Mostly because he took a leap in terms of pull up shooting, actually turned himself into an offensive hub.

I will note he has been kind of lucky playing with these great defensive bigs as bad guard defender, but yea he is special.

And they’re lucky he’s so elite at creating offence. It goes both ways.

He’s just always been better than Siakam imo.

Yeah this board tends to fall in love with the awkward raw offensive players who are good defenders......Without Donovan Mitchell this Cavs team is a fringe playoff team....He is what makes the Cavs team a title contender....Cavs built a great team around Mitchell though as well...

But yeah in terms of styles Siakams game can tend to fall off during the playoffs....As you can see today he was not that good....Mitchell has been one of the better playoff performers....Siakam is hot/cold during playoffs.

Scizzup · Post #1027 » by **Scizzup** » Sat May 10, 2025 2:44 am

Yea, I don't think Nuggets have enough to beat OKC 4x. They are already going to zone cause they want to avoid mismatch but Thunder making their 3s. Then the bench comes in and....

Joker is seeing multiple bodies from an all time defense, he is going to have his worst series since he won MVP. Way too much to overcome.

HumbleRen · Post #1028 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat May 10, 2025 3:46 am

SGA’s impact from the regular szn hasn’t seem to have been the same in the playoffs.

Kinda surprised by that.

Son Goku 25 · Post #1029 » by **Son Goku 25** » Sat May 10, 2025 3:54 am

Pointgod wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:Donovan Mitchell is so good man.

He’s always been underrated

Until OG clamps him. God I miss OG on this team.

Scizzup · Post #1030 » by **Scizzup** » Sat May 10, 2025 3:54 am

HumbleRen wrote:SGA’s impact from the regular szn hasn’t seem to have been the same in the playoffs.

Kinda surprised by that.

this was true before his last game, but that game brought up his numbers and impact up by a lot.

Its tough to play like he did in the regular season in the playoffs with the coverage he is seeing rn. But he has still been ridiculously good.

30/5/7 on 58% TS

Joker for example 25/12/9 on 58% TS

Basketball_Jones · Post #1031 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Sat May 10, 2025 3:57 am

Denver lets goooo

Los_29 · Post #1032 » by **Los_29** » Sat May 10, 2025 3:57 am

How is Denver winning? Jokic has been terrible tonight. OKC is such a great defensive team. And SGA can just get whatever he wants. Such a special player.

HumbleRen · Post #1033 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat May 10, 2025 3:59 am

Scizzup wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:SGA’s impact from the regular szn hasn’t seem to have been the same in the playoffs.

Kinda surprised by that.

this was true before his last game, but that game brought up his numbers and impact up by a lot.

Its tough to play like he did in the regular season in the playoffs with the coverage he is seeing rn. But he has still been ridiculously good.

30/5/7 on 58% TS

Joker for example 25/12/9 on 58% TS

Last game doing a alot of heavy lifting.

Both Jokic and him have been really off. Luckily their teammates are showing up.

Scizzup · Post #1034 » by **Scizzup** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:10 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Scizzup wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:SGA’s impact from the regular szn hasn’t seem to have been the same in the playoffs.

Kinda surprised by that.

this was true before his last game, but that game brought up his numbers and impact up by a lot.

Its tough to play like he did in the regular season in the playoffs with the coverage he is seeing rn. But he has still been ridiculously good.

30/5/7 on 58% TS

Joker for example 25/12/9 on 58% TS

Last game doing a alot of heavy lifting.

Both Jokic and him have been really off. Luckily their teammates are showing up.

Shai was mid and missing shots he usually makes in half the Grizzlies series. He has been better this series despite the defense he is seeing doubles/zones/boxn1 etc. Joker also just went through a great Clippers defense and now an all time great OKC defense.

I think both have been the 2 best players in the post season so far still. Its still small sample especially for Shai who has only played 6 games. A great game will boost his numbers a lot. Joker to a lesser extent.

WaltFrazier · Post #1035 » by **WaltFrazier** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:14 am

The pace and the shot making in this game is really something. It's been said before but if only Murray had been this healthy in the Olympics.

Scizzup · Post #1036 » by **Scizzup** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:27 am

Jokic court mapping has been so bad this series, he is better off just shooting. OKC is too good at recovery and forcing turnovers.

Joker is averaging more turnovers than assists. 17 assists to 21 turnovers through 3 games and 53% TS woof.

HumbleRen · Post #1037 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:28 am

Scizzup wrote:Jokic court mapping has been so bad this series, he is better off just shooting. OKC is too good at recovery and forcing turnovers.

Joker is averaging more turnovers than assists. 17 assists to 21 turnovers through 3 games and 53% TS woof.

OKC’s defensive guards are swarming them.

Insane hands on them lol.

SharoneWright · Post #1038 » by **SharoneWright** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:35 am

Chet very exposed tonight.

Not him.

HumbleRen · Post #1039 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:38 am

This is a war.

Chalky_White · Post #1040 » by **Chalky_White** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:41 am

Denver crowd is insane, they've been standing up the entire fourth quarter. Can't remember the last time a Raptors crowd was similarly hyped, even in the playoffs.