Around the NBA - 2024-25 Season Continued Again

[RHODEY]

we probably lost this trade......sad

We lost this trade because Julius looks good against a midget Curryless Warriors team...while we are up 2-1 over the Champs?

[whocares1]

we probably lost this trade......sad

We lost this trade because Julius looks good against a midget Curryless Warriors team...while we are up 2-1 over the Champs?

We definitely lost a true secondary playmaker that’s for sure, but yea the Warriors without Steph is a hard sell
for me to say they won the trade. Knicks would probably be up 3-0 against the Warriors without Steph lol.

[KnicksGadfly]

we probably lost this trade......sad

We lost this trade because Julius looks good against a midget Curryless Warriors team...while we are up 2-1 over the Champs?

Yah…I don’t know if he’d do this well against the Celtics either. They’d put Jrue on him and just live with that.

Still, the main thing is KAT. Is he gonna show up or not?

[god shammgod]

OG has been a better 2nd option than Kat for christ sakes. That’s not supposed to be the case lol

[iLLSonChandla]

It's like no one wants to be the second option lol

[Buttah304]

Just as I was about to give Randle his flowers because I truly thought he played as brilliant of a 4th as I’ve ever seen him…the rewriting of history and nonsense narratives come out. Aren’t you guys exhausted with this already?

Yall really think Detroit wouldn’t have given him a problem? TOBIAS HARRIS AKA IM GONNA GET JULIUS IN A PHYSICAL & PSYCHOLOGICAL ONE ON ONE MATCHUP? Do you guys not even recall what that used to look like for years?

From 2019-2024 Tobias in his individual matchup with Randle caused him to shoot 19/66 from the damn field for 28%. You don’t think Duren would have got under his skin? Thompson and Dennis playing dirty and insinuating mindgames? I know LA had Luka/Bron but they were 10-9 over their last 19 games to end the year. Not exactly lightning the world on fire being 24th in defensive rating the last month and half.

KAT 100% can and should be better - let’s be crystal clear on that. And Sham is also correct that OG for large stretches has looked better as a second option. But we can never just praise Randle for a great game. It’s always “Men in Blacking” the history or not even acknowledging that Curry was out.

Like what TF are we even doing?

[life_saver]

I am a Wolves fan...I haven't watched much ton of Knicks games during RS but whenever I watch Knicks games in playoffs, I just don't understand how Knicks use KAT on offense. During some games, there are like 10 straight possessions where KAT barely even touched the ball. Sometimes he gets the ball on perimeter when there are like 4-5 secs remaining with defender all over him. Knicks aren't even using KAT's gravity much on offense...there's barely much off-ball stuff from KAT on offense. Wolves used to run some plays for KAT where he used to come off screens. I thought Wolves could have used KAT better but after seeing how Knicks are using him has made me realize that Wolves probably used him lot better. I am not sure how many players would succeed offensively with the way Knicks are using KAT.

btw, KAT was pretty damn good in first 2 rounds of playoffs last season with Wolves. He sucked in Mavs series but he played very well prior to that and this was after KAT was rushed back from a serious injury just right before playoffs.

[Wildcat]

Just as I was about to give Randle his flowers because I truly thought he played as brilliant of a 4th as I’ve ever seen him…the rewriting of history and nonsense narratives come out. Aren’t you guys exhausted with this already?

Yall really think Detroit wouldn’t have given him a problem? TOBIAS HARRIS AKA IM GONNA GET JULIUS IN A PHYSICAL & PSYCHOLOGICAL ONE ON ONE MATCHUP? Do you guys not even recall what that used to look like for years?

From 2019-2024 Tobias in his individual matchup with Randle caused him to shoot 19/66 from the damn field for 28%. You don’t think Duren would have got under his skin? Thompson and Dennis playing dirty and insinuating mindgames? I know LA had Luka/Bron but they were 10-9 over their last 19 games to end the year. Not exactly lightning the world on fire being 24th in defensive rating the last month and half.

KAT 100% can and should be better - let’s be crystal clear on that. And Sham is also correct that OG for large stretches has looked better as a second option. But we can never just praise Randle for a great game. It’s always “Men in Blacking” the history or not even acknowledging that Curry was out.

Like what TF are we even doing?

The point is moot because he didn't get a chance to play against Harris last season or this season with this team. And this season, Randle averaged 22/8/6 against Detroit. I'll be damn is you try to put some respect in Toby's name before Randle.

[Wildcat]

I am a Wolves fan...I haven't watched much ton of Knicks games during RS but whenever I watch Knicks games in playoffs, I just don't understand how Knicks use KAT on offense. During some games, there are like 10 straight possessions where KAT barely even touched the ball. Sometimes he gets the ball on perimeter when there are like 4-5 secs remaining with defender all over him. Knicks aren't even using KAT's gravity much on offense...there's barely much off-ball stuff from KAT on offense. Wolves used to run some plays for KAT where he used to come off screens. I thought Wolves could have used KAT better but after seeing how Knicks are using him has made me realize that Wolves probably used him lot better. I am not sure how many players would succeed offensively with the way Knicks are using KAT.

btw, KAT was pretty damn good in first 2 rounds of playoffs last season with Wolves. He sucked in Mavs series but he played very well prior to that and this was after KAT was rushed back from a serious injury just right before playoffs.

And that's the main issue. We don't understand either. It's the number one reason why I was against the trade. Thibs going to coach like Thibs. He isn't equip to take advantage of KAT offensive skills. I rather have Randle and DDV unless you told me we have a coach that can get the most out of KAT.

[3toheadmelo]

Can't even really compare Kat and Randle at this point. Probably the best young player in the NBA defers to him and let's him run the offense the majority of the game. Kat can't even consistently get shots up on this team. Like 3totheheadmelo said it's levels to this

There’s really no debate who’s the better player at this point honestly. I mean Randle is averaging 22.4 PPG 6.4 APG in the post season on 60% TS%. That’s elite second option numbers from a big man, while doing it against elite defenders in Draymond green and Jimmy Butler. Meanwhile KAT has struggled a bit against Tobias Harris and the corpse of Horford with disastrous defense at the 5.

[3toheadmelo]

OG has been a better 2nd option than Kat for christ sakes. That’s not supposed to be the case lol

Randle would’ve never let that happened. KAT doesn’t have that mindset to dominate.

[life_saver]

Can't even really compare Kat and Randle at this point. Probably the best young player in the NBA defers to him and let's him run the offense the majority of the game. Kat can't even consistently get shots up on this team. Like 3totheheadmelo said it's levels to this

There’s really no debate who’s the better player at this point honestly. I mean Randle is averaging 22.4 PPG 6.4 APG in the post season on 60% TS%. That’s elite second option numbers from a big man, while doing it against elite defenders in Draymond green and Jimmy Butler. Meanwhile KAT has struggled a bit against Tobias Harris and the corpse of Horford with disastrous defense at the 5.

KAT is not a 5...there is a reason Wolves traded for Gobert. KAT can play as a 5 at times depending on matchup but he is more suited as 4 than 5. Its on Thibs/Knicks management to expect him to play as a 5 when he hasn't been playing as a 5 for previous 2 seasons. Also, KAT has always struggled bit more against guys like Batum, Tobias..despite his flaws, the way Knicks are using him is the bigger problem. There is just no sort of offensive structure for Knicks. Maybe the problem is Thibs ? Because even Randle (who did have some injury issues) also struggled in playoffs with Knicks.

[life_saver]

I am a Wolves fan...I haven't watched much ton of Knicks games during RS but whenever I watch Knicks games in playoffs, I just don't understand how Knicks use KAT on offense. During some games, there are like 10 straight possessions where KAT barely even touched the ball. Sometimes he gets the ball on perimeter when there are like 4-5 secs remaining with defender all over him. Knicks aren't even using KAT's gravity much on offense...there's barely much off-ball stuff from KAT on offense. Wolves used to run some plays for KAT where he used to come off screens. I thought Wolves could have used KAT better but after seeing how Knicks are using him has made me realize that Wolves probably used him lot better. I am not sure how many players would succeed offensively with the way Knicks are using KAT.

btw, KAT was pretty damn good in first 2 rounds of playoffs last season with Wolves. He sucked in Mavs series but he played very well prior to that and this was after KAT was rushed back from a serious injury just right before playoffs.

And that's the main issue. We don't understand either. It's the number one reason why I was against the trade. Thibs going to coach like Thibs. He isn't equip to take advantage of KAT offensive skills. I rather have Randle and DDV unless you told me we have a coach that can get the most out of KAT.

Donte has been absolute garbage so far in playoffs...like dude has been the worst shooter in playoffs, shooting like 20% from 3 and has been a turnover machine whenever he drives and passes in paint

[3toheadmelo]

Can't even really compare Kat and Randle at this point. Probably the best young player in the NBA defers to him and let's him run the offense the majority of the game. Kat can't even consistently get shots up on this team. Like 3totheheadmelo said it's levels to this

There’s really no debate who’s the better player at this point honestly. I mean Randle is averaging 22.4 PPG 6.4 APG in the post season on 60% TS%. That’s elite second option numbers from a big man, while doing it against elite defenders in Draymond green and Jimmy Butler. Meanwhile KAT has struggled a bit against Tobias Harris and the corpse of Horford with disastrous defense at the 5.

KAT is not a 5...there is a reason Wolves traded for Gobert. KAT can play as a 5 at times depending on matchup but he is more suited as 4 than 5. Its on Thibs/Knicks management to expect him to play as a 5 when he hasn't been playing as a 5 for previous 2 seasons. Also, KAT has always struggled bit more against guys like Batum, Tobias..despite his flaws, the way Knicks are using him is the bigger problem. There is just no sort of offensive structure for Knicks. Maybe the problem is Thibs ? Because even Randle (who did have some injury issues) also struggled in playoffs with Knicks.

We don’t have a reliable 5 to play KAT next to, which is why I never understood why we made the trade. KAT should not be struggling against smaller wings. That’s softness. And he should be getting clamped up by an old horford either.

Randle played with one ankle that needed surgery in his last playoffs with the Knicks (but was still a net positive). If he was healthy he would’ve looked a lot better. That’s not a Thibs issue.

[robillionaire]

I still think we won the trade however Knicks fans continue to be deadass wrong about Randle and his talent, and the myth that he can’t play in the playoffs because of yips or whatever is in the trash where it belongs. He had two playoffs here one his first time fighting double and triple teams on a talentless roster and two needing ankle surgery. This was entirely predictable if you weren’t drinking haterade

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

OKC-DEN - both sides hungover

[Wildcat]

I am a Wolves fan...I haven't watched much ton of Knicks games during RS but whenever I watch Knicks games in playoffs, I just don't understand how Knicks use KAT on offense. During some games, there are like 10 straight possessions where KAT barely even touched the ball. Sometimes he gets the ball on perimeter when there are like 4-5 secs remaining with defender all over him. Knicks aren't even using KAT's gravity much on offense...there's barely much off-ball stuff from KAT on offense. Wolves used to run some plays for KAT where he used to come off screens. I thought Wolves could have used KAT better but after seeing how Knicks are using him has made me realize that Wolves probably used him lot better. I am not sure how many players would succeed offensively with the way Knicks are using KAT.

btw, KAT was pretty damn good in first 2 rounds of playoffs last season with Wolves. He sucked in Mavs series but he played very well prior to that and this was after KAT was rushed back from a serious injury just right before playoffs.

And that's the main issue. We don't understand either. It's the number one reason why I was against the trade. Thibs going to coach like Thibs. He isn't equip to take advantage of KAT offensive skills. I rather have Randle and DDV unless you told me we have a coach that can get the most out of KAT.

Donte has been absolute garbage so far in playoffs...like dude has been the worst shooter in playoffs, shooting like 20% from 3 and has been a turnover machine whenever he drives and passes in paint

Luckily, you're not losing many games with his shooting as is right now, but I promise you he'll win you one.

[HEZI]

This might be the worst 1st quarter in playoff history

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

This might be the worst 1st quarter in playoff history

effing ridiculous. I set aside time on a Sunday afternoon to watch this. wtf?/?

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Denver with less than a point a minute over 16 minutes. And still not being blown out. wtfbbq