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Re: Blue Jays (17-20) @ Mariners (22-14), May 09-11 

Post#41 » by Madvillainy2004 » Sun May 11, 2025 9:24 pm

Kirk has been great this season
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Post#42 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun May 11, 2025 9:26 pm

Kirk potentially concussed right when the bat is coming around, unfortunate
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Re: Blue Jays (17-20) @ Mariners (22-14), May 09-11 

Post#43 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun May 11, 2025 9:28 pm

JN wrote:Wasting the bullpen again. Urena was going along fairly well, but let's go with the other retread who there is no guarantee will be decent. **** these planned starts.

I am generally pro analytics. But this particular analytical based strategy is dumb. Its based on pitchers performance being totally homogenous from game to game. Which is stupid -- if it were the case we would just let a good starter pitch to his pitch limit every game.

This FO has been doing this since they pulled Shoemaker in the 2020 WC game after 3 dominant innings; they don’t care about in-game context
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Post#44 » by Boogie! » Sun May 11, 2025 9:32 pm

Great bounce back season from Springer.
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Post#45 » by JN » Sun May 11, 2025 9:32 pm

Springer is the team's MVP so far. Good for George, perhaps an indictment against a few others.
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Post#46 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun May 11, 2025 9:34 pm

Kirk will be a massive loss if he’s out for any extended period of time
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Post#47 » by duppyy » Sun May 11, 2025 10:16 pm

We finally getting a blow out win?
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Post#48 » by Boogie! » Sun May 11, 2025 10:46 pm

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Post#49 » by Hottie McShotty » Sun May 11, 2025 10:49 pm

Well, that was unexpected. A sweep of a pretty good team in Seattle and away from the Rogers Centre. Could this be where we turn things around this season?
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Post#50 » by TOStateofMind » Sun May 11, 2025 10:50 pm

Lose series vs Angels, Sweep the Mariners who havent lost a series in ages. Blue Jays baseball.
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Re: Blue Jays (17-20) @ Mariners (22-14), May 09-11 

Post#51 » by Mehar » Sun May 11, 2025 10:58 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:Well, that was unexpected. A sweep of a pretty good team in Seattle and away from the Rogers Centre. Could this be where we turn things around this season?

I have not watched since Hoffman choked away the lead in Los Angeles in Game 2, and made me sick to my stomach watching this team. Maybe I am the good luck charm by not watching (lol). Just checking the box score and highlights on Twitter the last couple of days. It is not a coincidence that this team is playing well with Gimenez and Santander on the bench injured.

Who cares how much they are making. Keep those two guys on the bench for an extended time; and keep riding guys like Barger, Clement, Lukes, and Straw in the lineup instead of Santander and Gimenez who have been terrible overall offensively this year. They got a good rhythm going now. No need to disrupt things. I was not a fan of acquiring Gimenez and Santander anyways. Give them extended rest for now.
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Post#52 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Sun May 11, 2025 11:05 pm

TORONTO BLUE JAYS WIN! TORONTO BLUE JAYS WIN! WOOHOO! HOORAY! :P! :)! :D!
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Post#53 » by johanliebert » Sun May 11, 2025 11:40 pm

The bottom of the lineup started hitting in that Angels series. I thought they’d get some offence going for this series the only surprise was Bowden Francis. They were 3.5 gb of 1st when everyone was fighting depression im optimistic about the rest of May.
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Post#54 » by Mehar » Sun May 11, 2025 11:46 pm

johanliebert wrote:The bottom of the lineup started hitting in that Angels series. I thought they’d get some offence going for this series the only surprise was Bowden Francis. They were 3.5 gb of 1st when everyone was fighting depression im optimistic about the rest of May.

The bottom of the lineup hit nowhere as well as they did in the Seattle series than they did with the Angels, just looking at the box scores right now. Say what you want, but this team performed really well with Santander and Gimenez parked on the bench in this Seattle series. Give those two guys extended rest for now.
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Post#55 » by Lateral Quicks » Mon May 12, 2025 3:15 am

At this stage you can't keep Barger out of the lineup.
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Re: Blue Jays (17-20) @ Mariners (22-14), May 09-11 

Post#56 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon May 12, 2025 4:16 am

Lateral Quicks wrote:At this stage you can't keep Barger out of the lineup.


let alone the cleaup spot lol - after 1 week, things have changed for Barger
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Re: Blue Jays (17-20) @ Mariners (22-14), May 09-11 

Post#57 » by PowerPlant1 » Mon May 12, 2025 4:22 am

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Hottie McShotty wrote:Well, that was unexpected. A sweep of a pretty good team in Seattle and away from the Rogers Centre. Could this be where we turn things around this season?

I have not watched since Hoffman choked away the lead in Los Angeles in Game 2, and made me sick to my stomach watching this team. Maybe I am the good luck charm by not watching (lol). Just checking the box score and highlights on Twitter the last couple of days. It is not a coincidence that this team is playing well with Gimenez and Santander on the bench injured.

Who cares how much they are making. Keep those two guys on the bench for an extended time; and keep riding guys like Barger, Clement, Lukes, and Straw in the lineup instead of Santander and Gimenez who have been terrible overall offensively this year. They got a good rhythm going now. No need to disrupt things. I was not a fan of acquiring Gimenez and Santander anyways. Give them extended rest for now.


What you have suggested is the opposite of what will happen. Too much FO ego with the trades/signings and that old adage of 'duh well, the high paid players have to earn their money'.

It's not to say that those guys are going to have good seasons but I like the idea of playing them. And of course, Spencer Horwitz's bat would have been a welcome part of this young mix.
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Re: Blue Jays (17-20) @ Mariners (22-14), May 09-11 

Post#58 » by JaysRule15 » Mon May 12, 2025 4:39 am

Barger will save our season.
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Post#59 » by Boogie! » Mon May 12, 2025 1:12 pm

JaysRule15 wrote:Barger will save our season.


Are we ever gonna see someone resembling 2021 Guerrero jr ever again? Honestly, we’d be winning more games if he was mashing… it seems when we win it’s always the bottom of the order and support players doing the heavy lifting…

I look at Aaron judge numbers and I’m jealous. I thought vlad was supposed to be the generational one.
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Re: Blue Jays (17-20) @ Mariners (22-14), May 09-11 

Post#60 » by Randle McMurphy » Mon May 12, 2025 4:21 pm

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JaysRule15 wrote:Barger will save our season.


Are we ever gonna see someone resembling 2021 Guerrero jr ever again? Honestly, we’d be winning more games if he was mashing… it seems when we win it’s always the bottom of the order and support players doing the heavy lifting…

I look at Aaron judge numbers and I’m jealous. I thought vlad was supposed to be the generational one.

If you are expecting Vlad to be one of the 5-10 greatest hitters of all time at this point, yeah it might be time to adjust your expectations.
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