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Re: NBA Playoff Games 2025, Non-Celtics 

Post#921 » by Shak_Celts » Mon May 12, 2025 2:43 am

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Fierce1 wrote:And the bench has already won us a playoff game, Game 3 on the road.

PP and Luke were contributors in that Game 3.

If they won 3, did they lose the first 2?

When it comes to bench contribution from this Cs team, you really have to lower expectations because like Parl said, this is a decent bench, not a great bench.

So every game where PP, Luke, and Sam contribute, that's already a big boost.


I’m only looking for “helped win,” because they certainly helped us lose the first two. You said they won us 3. It’s the same argument I’ve had for many years, when people said Tatum was carrying the Celtics. They never wanted to give anybody else credit, especially Smart and JB. It’s a team sport. When you perform well, you should be credited, when you perform poorly, you should get that credit too.
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Re: NBA Playoff Games 2025, Non-Celtics 

Post#922 » by Shak_Celts » Mon May 12, 2025 2:45 am

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Fierce1 wrote:Barely scraped by them?

I understand what you're saying, Pacers are tough and legit, but the maximum damage you can inflict on a playoff opponent is a sweep.

Cs swept the Pacers in the ECF, so it's really a stretch to say we barely scraped by them.

I’m talking about the score in each game, all but one of the games IIRC, were 4th Q double digit comebacks. They were clearly our toughest opponent.

Dang near each game was a ball roll or made/missed bucket from giving them confidence they could beat us. I think beating Cavs g1 gave them the confidence they missed out on vs us. I’m not sure what would have happened had we not escaped with g1.

True.

But law of averages favor the Pacers getting atleast 1 win in the 3 close games that they played.

Never happened.

So maybe the Pacers need a closer like Brunson.

They probably need experience like we did the years before we won. They are a very young team too, I don’t think they’re OKC young, but not much older.

Wait, are they okc young? I mean for people who actually get on the court?
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Re: NBA Playoff Games 2025, Non-Celtics 

Post#923 » by Fierce1 » Mon May 12, 2025 2:56 am

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Shak_Celts wrote:If they won 3, did they lose the first 2?

When it comes to bench contribution from this Cs team, you really have to lower expectations because like Parl said, this is a decent bench, not a great bench.

So every game where PP, Luke, and Sam contribute, that's already a big boost.


I’m only looking for “helped win,” because they certainly helped us lose the first two. You said they won us 3. It’s the same argument I’ve had for many years, when people said Tatum was carrying the Celtics. They never wanted to give anybody else credit, especially Smart and JB. It’s a team sport. When you perform well, you should be credited, when you perform poorly, you should get that credit too.

I said they won us Game 3, not won us 3 games.
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Re: NBA Playoff Games 2025, Non-Celtics 

Post#924 » by Fierce1 » Mon May 12, 2025 3:00 am

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Shak_Celts wrote:I’m talking about the score in each game, all but one of the games IIRC, were 4th Q double digit comebacks. They were clearly our toughest opponent.

Dang near each game was a ball roll or made/missed bucket from giving them confidence they could beat us. I think beating Cavs g1 gave them the confidence they missed out on vs us. I’m not sure what would have happened had we not escaped with g1.

True.

But law of averages favor the Pacers getting atleast 1 win in the 3 close games that they played.

Never happened.

So maybe the Pacers need a closer like Brunson.

They probably need experience like we did the years before we won. They are a very young team too, I don’t think they’re OKC young, but not much older.

Wait, are they okc young? I mean for people who actually get on the court?

I think it has to do more with not having a star player who's a bucket getter.

Hali is great, but he's really not a scoring machine.

Pacers had the lead in the clutch in Games 1, 3, and 4.

They just couldn't finish the Celtics off in those 3 games.
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Re: NBA Playoff Games 2025, Non-Celtics 

Post#925 » by Shak_Celts » Mon May 12, 2025 3:34 am

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Fierce1 wrote:When it comes to bench contribution from this Cs team, you really have to lower expectations because like Parl said, this is a decent bench, not a great bench.

So every game where PP, Luke, and Sam contribute, that's already a big boost.


I’m only looking for “helped win,” because they certainly helped us lose the first two. You said they won us 3. It’s the same argument I’ve had for many years, when people said Tatum was carrying the Celtics. They never wanted to give anybody else credit, especially Smart and JB. It’s a team sport. When you perform well, you should be credited, when you perform poorly, you should get that credit too.

I said they won us Game 3, not won us 3 games.

That’s my point, they didn’t win game 3 for us, unless they lost the first 2. They HELPED win or lose all 3. You’re giving them too much credit while not enough to their poor play win we lost the first 2. I’m not going to chalk it up to being a bad bench and their contribution a bonus. They get paid and played, gotta help. Especially Pritchard. Had he been bad during the regular season we wouldn’t be relying on him. Maybe Brad would have added more (still should have). He wants these opportunities, he must meet them.
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Re: NBA Playoff Games 2025, Non-Celtics 

Post#926 » by Fierce1 » Mon May 12, 2025 3:43 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:
I’m only looking for “helped win,” because they certainly helped us lose the first two. You said they won us 3. It’s the same argument I’ve had for many years, when people said Tatum was carrying the Celtics. They never wanted to give anybody else credit, especially Smart and JB. It’s a team sport. When you perform well, you should be credited, when you perform poorly, you should get that credit too.

I said they won us Game 3, not won us 3 games.

That’s my point, they didn’t win game 3 for us, unless they lost the first 2. They HELPED win or lose all 3. You’re giving them too much credit while not enough to their poor play win we lost the first 2. I’m not going to chalk it up to being a bad bench and their contribution a bonus. They get paid and played, gotta help. Especially Pritchard. Had he been bad during the regular season we wouldn’t be relying on him. Maybe Brad would have added more (still should have). He wants these opportunities, he must meet them.

I think Brad's hands were tied because of cap restrictions.
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Post#927 » by Floody100 » Mon May 12, 2025 7:58 am

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playa-hater wrote:The Pacers are getting close to 5 to 6 passes per possession. **** you, joe **** you, joe **** you, joe.

Anyone who says coaching doesn't matter in the playoffs. Really has no clue about basketball.

And if that is disrespecting, joe, then so **** be it


It’s not even a Celtics game & you’re talking about Joe.

Rent free lol


Because I am first and foremost, a lover of the game of basketball and the purity of the right way to play.

The fact that you get so sensitive about anyone. Talking about joe is quite laughable in my opinion.

Are you related to him just curious?

Is it too hard to admit that joe has so many flaws?

Even when presented with actual evidence, you go in denial.

Speaking of rent free, I guess anyone who comes up with a negative comment on joe lives in your rent free head. :nod:


I’m not the one resorting to temper tantrums about him.
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Post#928 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon May 12, 2025 8:02 am

Pacers are legit, I said it a gazillion times. I really wish we hired Rick as our coach, I think he would've been great for this core and helped our overall offense A TON. I think he's still a top 3 coach in the league, easily.
As for the Thunder, they are still good on defense, but their offense is kinda sus. Shai has been fairly disappointing in the playoffs, no idea if he's getting the treatment Tatum is, but he's doing a Tatum impersonation at the end of games jacking up contested 3s after dribbling the ball for ~18-19 secs and trying to throw the game away.
Good assessment:

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Post#929 » by Fierce1 » Mon May 12, 2025 8:16 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:Pacers are legit, I said it a gazillion times. I really wish we hired Rick as our coach, I think he would've been great for this core and helped our overall offense A TON. I think he's still a top 3 coach in the league, easily.
As for the Thunder, they are still good on defense, but their offense is kinda sus. Shai has been fairly disappointing in the playoffs, no idea if he's getting the treatment Tatum is, but he's doing a Tatum impersonation at the end of games jacking up contested 3s after dribbling the ball for ~18-19 secs and trying to throw the game away.

Yeah, Carlisle would have been a great replacement for Udoka.

But like I said, Brad has an agenda.

The Brad Stevens coaching tree only beared one fruit and that's Joe Mazzulla.

Credit Brad, he went all in with Joe and Joe delivered what Brad hoped to deliver, as Celtic coach from 2013 to 2021, and that's Banner 18.
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Post#930 » by Lee Van Cleef » Mon May 12, 2025 1:19 pm

I don't think Cavs will be able to come back from 3-1. Pacers in 6 at most, maybe even in 5. RC did a hell of a job in Indiana with this young roster.

Denver visibly ran out of gas towards the end of the 3rd. They play with 7 players and MPJ is dealing with a shoulder injury. Winner of the game 5 will win the series in my opinion. OKC is the favorite, but if you have Jokic, you always have a chance.
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Post#931 » by Hal14 » Mon May 12, 2025 2:07 pm

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Post#932 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Mon May 12, 2025 2:27 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:Pacers are legit, I said it a gazillion times. I really wish we hired Rick as our coach, I think he would've been great for this core and helped our overall offense A TON. I think he's still a top 3 coach in the league, easily.
As for the Thunder, they are still good on defense, but their offense is kinda sus. Shai has been fairly disappointing in the playoffs, no idea if he's getting the treatment Tatum is, but he's doing a Tatum impersonation at the end of games jacking up contested 3s after dribbling the ball for ~18-19 secs and trying to throw the game away.



I think the pacers are ok but the cavs really laid an egg in game 4. I think pacers would get crushed if they made the finals.
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Post#933 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon May 12, 2025 2:49 pm

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FlatearthZorro wrote:Pacers are legit, I said it a gazillion times. I really wish we hired Rick as our coach, I think he would've been great for this core and helped our overall offense A TON. I think he's still a top 3 coach in the league, easily.
As for the Thunder, they are still good on defense, but their offense is kinda sus. Shai has been fairly disappointing in the playoffs, no idea if he's getting the treatment Tatum is, but he's doing a Tatum impersonation at the end of games jacking up contested 3s after dribbling the ball for ~18-19 secs and trying to throw the game away.



I think the pacers are ok but the cavs really laid an egg in game 4. I think pacers would get crushed if they made the finals.


Not sure, tbh with you, I think they are game and with a little bit of luck, could pull off an upset. I give them better chances than NYK. Not hating on NYK, I just don't see Brunson carrying them against OKC's defense.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#934 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Mon May 12, 2025 3:02 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
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FlatearthZorro wrote:Pacers are legit, I said it a gazillion times. I really wish we hired Rick as our coach, I think he would've been great for this core and helped our overall offense A TON. I think he's still a top 3 coach in the league, easily.
As for the Thunder, they are still good on defense, but their offense is kinda sus. Shai has been fairly disappointing in the playoffs, no idea if he's getting the treatment Tatum is, but he's doing a Tatum impersonation at the end of games jacking up contested 3s after dribbling the ball for ~18-19 secs and trying to throw the game away.



I think the pacers are ok but the cavs really laid an egg in game 4. I think pacers would get crushed if they made the finals.


Not sure, tbh with you, I think they are game and with a little bit of luck, could pull off an upset. I give them better chances than NYK. Not hating on NYK, I just don't see Brunson carrying them against OKC's defense.



I don’t. You think highly of the pacers. I think they’re coached great and give the cavs problems but i still they lose 4-1 in the finals. That’s not competitive. Reminds of that year when miami overachieved and went to the finals.
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Post#935 » by Parliament10 » Wed May 14, 2025 12:57 am

Cavs are in down.
They're in big trouble.
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Post#936 » by exculpatory » Wed May 14, 2025 1:03 am

Parliament10 wrote:Cavs are in down.
They're in big trouble.


Good to see them waxed in 5.
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Post#937 » by tfmiii » Wed May 14, 2025 1:09 am

Cavs have a foot in the grave, Indy so relentless, I love how the ball and players are in constant motion via passes and off-ball movement. Very little ball-stopping. No clogged toilet offense.
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Post#938 » by tfmiii » Wed May 14, 2025 1:14 am

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Post#939 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed May 14, 2025 1:26 am

If not us (it's not us), I want the Pacers to win it all.
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Post#940 » by OnlyTheTruth » Wed May 14, 2025 1:29 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:If not us (it's not us), I want the Pacers to win it all.


Different philosophy here. If Knicks beat Boston 4-1 I hope they advance as far as they can. True dawgs

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