[Shams] Sources: Giannis Antetokounmpo to explore best fits outside of Milwaukee

[GiannisAnte34]

Because it is coming from Giannis camp. He is interested in leaving, thats pretty big I think.

What proof is there? You’re assuming

We are at the denial stage currently.

This is Malik Andrews exact same “journalism” from 2019 just repackaged

[Rendei]

He doesn't need to go to the media to get pitches. According to the article, the teams have already started working on their pitches, without any media assistance required.

Furthermore, the article seems to be based on something Giannis said about wanting a second ring on Thanasis's podcast. It doesn't seem like anyone fed Shams anything. He just wants some clicks with a fluff piece.

He is simply advertising himself, it improves his chances of getting more pitches, teams would now know it is serious.

He has an agent. One phone call from him would be taken far more seriously by teams than an ESPN clickbait article. There's no reason for media games that Giannis doesn't even like. Shams doesn't even claim that anyone told him anything.

[druggas]

Where there's smoke............

[LarsV8]

As expected, this is the danger zone for Bucks.

Next step is the extension offer, and the Bucks making thier pitch. If he doesn't take it, expect it too blow up quickly.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

But seriously, who's ready to win and got lots of assets? OKC. Pacers. Houston.

Dark horses - Philly, Mavs, Raptors.

OKC - why not. Chet for Giannis and some picks? Pacers got tons of young players. Swap Pascal and a young player with picks for Giannis. Houston - Jabari and some picks for Giannis. And you can't forget the Nigerian connection - Ime and Giannis would be a dream team.

Philly could go for broke here - will have to trade one of Embiid or PG13 and picks. Mavs are in a hurry to get legit, though the fit of Davis and Giannis is questionable. Masai has always dreamt of working with Giannis. He just might be ready to pull off another monster trade.

The Pacers could build an interest package for a star I think, but even so, the Bucks would NEVER trade him to the Pacers and I’m not sure he’d even wanna go to the Pacers if they tried.

Everything else aside, Giannis and Haliburton together would be a treat.

Turner is going to want a big raise, so how are the Pacers retaining Pascal and Haliburton then adding Giannis alongside all their guys getting pay increases?

I don’t think they are adding Giannis, but in the hypothetical scenario, I think they trade Siakam as a part of the package, either to a third team with more rebuilding assets going to the Bucks, or directly to the Bucks to let them flip him somewhere.

[Revived]

Blazers say “thanks for the opportunity to play”. That trade couldn’t have worked out more favorable

Idk about that second sentence. The Heat offer reportedly was Tyler Herro, Kel'el Ware, Nikola Jovic, and couple first rd picks. I think that would’ve been better especially since Herro developed into an All Star.

[mg]

Houston makes sense. They have young highly drafted prospects to deal (Green, Smith, etc) and also own the Phoenix draft picks. They could offer the perfect rebuilding package.

[Chuck Everett]

I personally think Giannis is done winning chips. The fact that he pretty much refused to run pick and rolls with Dame (two-man game) doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will do what's best to maximize everyone around him. Even Jokic runs pick and roll with Murray. Until Giannis is ready to be a screener for a high-impact perimeter player on top of his skillset as a downhill rim-wrecker, it's not going to matter if he changes teams.

[UcanUwill]

I am just thinking, If Nico Harrison just waited, instead of taking first most asinine and inadequate offer for his own guy, he would now have straight lane to Giannis, wouldn't he? At least Giannis for Luka is not THAT bad.

[Chuck Everett]

Blazers say “thanks for the opportunity to play”. That trade couldn’t have worked out more favorable

Idk about that second sentence. The Heat offer reportedly was Tyler Herro, Kel'el Ware, Nikola Jovic, and couple first rd picks. I think that would’ve been better especially since Herro developed into an All Star.

Herro is fool's gold. He would never be an all-star in the West either.

[JustBuzzin]

Boston is a major sleeper

Tatum for Giannis straight up

[GiannisAnte34]

The Pacers could build an interest package for a star I think, but even so, the Bucks would NEVER trade him to the Pacers and I’m not sure he’d even wanna go to the Pacers if they tried.

Everything else aside, Giannis and Haliburton together would be a treat.

Turner is going to want a big raise, so how are the Pacers retaining Pascal and Haliburton then adding Giannis alongside all their guys getting pay increases?

I don’t think they are adding Giannis, but in the hypothetical scenario, I think they trade Siakam as a part of the package, either to a third team with more rebuilding assets going to the Bucks, or directly to the Bucks to let them flip him somewhere.

Siakam was worth Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora, and three FRPs and now he is 31 (was 29 at the time of the trade)

He was set to be a free agent the summer he was dealt and now he’s signed through 2027-28 making 52 million on the final year when he’s 34

None of those firsts were lottery picks.

So rough approximation is about 3 mid FRPs and a role-player for Siakam. Seems pretty far away from a deal

[Triple M]

What does it mean for the Bucks If Giannis is no longer committed to Milwaukee. The fact Milwaukee draft capital is bare makes me think it's possible they dont want to bottom out. They might trade Giannis for an all nba player that is still in their prime.

[GiannisAnte34]

I am just thinking, If Nico Harrison just waited, instead of taking first most asinine and inadequate offer for his own guy, he would now have straight lane to Giannis, wouldn't he? At least Giannis for Luka is not THAT bad.

If you believe these reports then it was said the Bucks rejected a Luka for Giannis deal. Are you going to be consistent on these rumor reports?

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Turner is going to want a big raise, so how are the Pacers retaining Pascal and Haliburton then adding Giannis alongside all their guys getting pay increases?

I don’t think they are adding Giannis, but in the hypothetical scenario, I think they trade Siakam as a part of the package, either to a third team with more rebuilding assets going to the Bucks, or directly to the Bucks to let them flip him somewhere.

Siakam was worth Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora, and three FRPs and now he is 31 (was 29 at the time of the trade)

He was set to be a free agent the summer he was dealt and now he’s signed through 2027-28 making 52 million on the final year when he’s 34

None of those firsts were lottery picks.

So rough approximation is about 3 mid FRPs and a role-player for Siakam. Seems pretty far away from a deal

Siakam’s value was low because he was becoming a FA and no team wanted to trade a lot for a guy who could just leave after half a season.

Also, I very clearly stated “as part of the package” indicating the Pacers would be trading a lot more with him.

Also stated that I think other teams would outbid the Pacers package. Hell, even in my first post I didn’t even mention “I think the Pacers could build a good package for Giannis.” I said, they could build a good package for a star. Then went on about how the Bucks would never consider trading Giannis to the Pacers and how I doubt Giannis would agree to go to the Pacers even if they tried.

[maverick_41]

What the Bucks are looking for?
If their goal is to compete now and in the future, Anthony Davis and Christie are available.

[liquidswords]

I am just thinking, If Nico Harrison just waited, instead of taking first most asinine and inadequate offer for his own guy, he would now have straight lane to Giannis, wouldn't he? At least Giannis for Luka is not THAT bad.

Giannis for Luka isn't "THAT" bad? Giannis is a perennial MVP candidate and defensive menace in the prime of his career. Giannis always competes and keeps himself in tip top shape. You gotta come off the Luka stuff

As far as best fits, I think we'll know a lot more after tonight's lottery. If San Antonio or Dallas in particular win the lottery, that puts them in prime position to make a deal for Giannis. The team I'm most curious about is Philly. If they win the lottery, do they keep Coop or would they want to trade for Giannis and then move on from Embiid

Maxey, Giannis, PG, McCain, and what you get back from an Embiid trade is an excellent core

[GiannisAnte34]

I don’t think they are adding Giannis, but in the hypothetical scenario, I think they trade Siakam as a part of the package, either to a third team with more rebuilding assets going to the Bucks, or directly to the Bucks to let them flip him somewhere.

Siakam was worth Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora, and three FRPs and now he is 31 (was 29 at the time of the trade)

He was set to be a free agent the summer he was dealt and now he’s signed through 2027-28 making 52 million on the final year when he’s 34

None of those firsts were lottery picks.

So rough approximation is about 3 mid FRPs and a role-player for Siakam. Seems pretty far away from a deal

Siakam’s value was low because he was becoming a FA and no team wanted to trade a lot for a guy who could just leave after half a season.

Also, I very clearly stated “as part of the package” indicating the Pacers would be trading a lot more with him.

Also stated that I think other teams would outbid the Pacers package. Hell, even in my first post I didn’t even mention “I think the Pacers could build a good package for Giannis.” I said, they could build a good package for a star. Then went on about how the Bucks would never consider trading Giannis to the Pacers and how I doubt Giannis would agree to go to the Pacers even if they tried.

What gave the Pacers such good depth was huge discounts on Turner and Nembhard on their cap sheet this year. Also some very cheap quality bench pieces in Sheppard, Bryant, Jackson, Mathurin, and Walker. Nembhards pay raise will hit next year and Turner is off the books for 2025-2026 likely wanting a raise. I expect a few of their bench guys will be seeking bigger contracts in the near future

[UcanUwill]

I am just thinking, If Nico Harrison just waited, instead of taking first most asinine and inadequate offer for his own guy, he would now have straight lane to Giannis, wouldn't he? At least Giannis for Luka is not THAT bad.

If you believe these reports then it was said the Bucks rejected a Luka for Giannis deal. Are you going to be consistent on these rumor reports?

Yeah, MIL refused that 3 months ago. things obviously can change, Giannis can demand a trade soon... D'uh. You think MIL refuse to trade for Luka after Giannis demands a trade, wtf?

[UcanUwill]

I am just thinking, If Nico Harrison just waited, instead of taking first most asinine and inadequate offer for his own guy, he would now have straight lane to Giannis, wouldn't he? At least Giannis for Luka is not THAT bad.

Giannis for Luka isn't "THAT" bad? Giannis is a perennial MVP candidate and defensive menace in the prime of his career. Giannis always competes and keeps himself in tip top shape. You gotta come off the Luka stuff

As far as best fits, I think we'll know a lot more after tonight's lottery. If San Antonio or Dallas in particular win the lottery, that puts them in prime position to make a deal for Giannis. The team I'm most curious about is Philly. If they win the lottery, do they keep Coop or would they want to trade for Giannis and then move on from Embiid

Maxey, Giannis, PG, McCain, and what you get back from an Embiid trade is an excellent core

Giannis is 30 and is athleticism driven superstar tho. Luka is 26, not reliant on athleticsm, already lead team to a finals and he is probably not even in his prime yet. I know Lakers lost in round one, but its not a good reason to forget who the F Luka Doncic is...