[Shams] Sources: Giannis Antetokounmpo to explore best fits outside of Milwaukee

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Siakam was worth Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora, and three FRPs and now he is 31 (was 29 at the time of the trade)

He was set to be a free agent the summer he was dealt and now he’s signed through 2027-28 making 52 million on the final year when he’s 34

None of those firsts were lottery picks.

So rough approximation is about 3 mid FRPs and a role-player for Siakam. Seems pretty far away from a deal

Siakam’s value was low because he was becoming a FA and no team wanted to trade a lot for a guy who could just leave after half a season.

Also, I very clearly stated “as part of the package” indicating the Pacers would be trading a lot more with him.

Also stated that I think other teams would outbid the Pacers package. Hell, even in my first post I didn’t even mention “I think the Pacers could build a good package for Giannis.” I said, they could build a good package for a star. Then went on about how the Bucks would never consider trading Giannis to the Pacers and how I doubt Giannis would agree to go to the Pacers even if they tried.

What gave the Pacers such good depth was huge discounts on Turner and Nembhard on their cap sheet this year. Also some very cheap quality bench pieces in Sheppard, Bryant, Jackson, Mathurin, and Walker. Nembhards pay raise will hit next year and Turner is off the books for 2025-2026 likely wanting a raise. I expect a few of their bench guys will be seeking bigger contracts in the near future

Sure, hence why it would make sense to consolidate some of them into a package for a star.

The Pacers aren’t likely to actually do that though.

[GiannisAnte34]

Siakam’s value was low because he was becoming a FA and no team wanted to trade a lot for a guy who could just leave after half a season.

Also, I very clearly stated “as part of the package” indicating the Pacers would be trading a lot more with him.

Also stated that I think other teams would outbid the Pacers package. Hell, even in my first post I didn’t even mention “I think the Pacers could build a good package for Giannis.” I said, they could build a good package for a star. Then went on about how the Bucks would never consider trading Giannis to the Pacers and how I doubt Giannis would agree to go to the Pacers even if they tried.

What gave the Pacers such good depth was huge discounts on Turner and Nembhard on their cap sheet this year. Also some very cheap quality bench pieces in Sheppard, Bryant, Jackson, Mathurin, and Walker. Nembhards pay raise will hit next year and Turner is off the books for 2025-2026 likely wanting a raise. I expect a few of their bench guys will be seeking bigger contracts in the near future

Sure, hence why it would make sense to consolidate some of them into a package for a star.

The Pacers aren’t likely to actually do that though.

If I’m the Bucks GM I don’t allow the Pacers to consolidate their bench pieces and role players. If left to their own devices, the Pacers will have to make cuts because they can’t pay all of them.

[Godymas]

the most obvious trade to benefit Milwaukee is a deal with Houston that sends over Jalen Smith and Jabari Smith Jr. along with the PHX Suns picks.

Milwaukee wants picks for the incoming rebuild and they don't want the picks of a team that they send Giannis to. Not only does Houston have the best picks, they also offer two guys that can 100% become the start of a rebuild for Milwaukee. It's a no brainer imo as the best deal. PHX is perpetually screwed too, those picks will be something meaningful.

The other option is to talk to OKC and grabbing Miami's pick, Denver's pick, maybe Utah's pick, and whatever of OKC's own they want to give up. As far as players are concerned, I really think OKC is going to want to push to keep Chet on board, but does that mean that JDub is out the door? I feel like JDub is also too valuable. OKC will fight very hard to hold onto JDub and Chet. I can see Hartenstein's money going out, 100% Nikola Topic in the deal. Maybe an Isaiah Joe as the final salary match.

I know every single person on the internet is going to say "no way they send Giannis without a Chet or JDub" but also OKC is going to hang up the line if they have to trade those 2 right now, 100%. Houston can actually trade their young star, OKC will not.

[Mamba Mentality]

I am just thinking, If Nico Harrison just waited, instead of taking first most asinine and inadequate offer for his own guy, he would now have straight lane to Giannis, wouldn't he? At least Giannis for Luka is not THAT bad.

Luka isn't signing an extension to play in Milwaukee during the prime of his career.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

What gave the Pacers such good depth was huge discounts on Turner and Nembhard on their cap sheet this year. Also some very cheap quality bench pieces in Sheppard, Bryant, Jackson, Mathurin, and Walker. Nembhards pay raise will hit next year and Turner is off the books for 2025-2026 likely wanting a raise. I expect a few of their bench guys will be seeking bigger contracts in the near future

Sure, hence why it would make sense to consolidate some of them into a package for a star.

The Pacers aren’t likely to actually do that though.

If I’m the Bucks GM I don’t allow the Pacers to consolidate their bench pieces and role players. If left to their own devices, the Pacers will have to make cuts because they can’t pay all of them.

My dude, I’ve said multiple times now that the Pacers and the Bucks aren’t going to trade. That was literally my first quote in this thread. Someone mentioned the Pacers and I said it would never happen…

[GiannisAnte34]

Sure, hence why it would make sense to consolidate some of them into a package for a star.

The Pacers aren’t likely to actually do that though.

If I’m the Bucks GM I don’t allow the Pacers to consolidate their bench pieces and role players. If left to their own devices, the Pacers will have to make cuts because they can’t pay all of them.

My dude, I’ve said multiple times now that the Pacers and the Bucks aren’t going to trade. That was literally my first quote in this thread. Someone mentioned the Pacers and I said it would never happen…

Cool, idk why you feel the need to keep reiterating that when I’m in agreement with what you said. I’m allowed to also expand on my reasoning there, you seem unnecessarily defensive.

[cgf]

Towns could help keep them from being terrible until their pick debt is paid and they can pivot to a rebuild...and tough to imagine a better supporting cast for the greek freak than Brunson, Anunoby, and Bridges.

...just sayin'

[JRoy]

Any chance the Lakers can get him? They don't have the draft picks I'd think.

Reaves/Knecht/Hachimura/1sts?

Come on now...

I agree.

The Lakers don't need to add Reeves.

Knecht/Hachimura/1st should be enough.

Yay Superfriends.

[UcanUwill]

I am just thinking, If Nico Harrison just waited, instead of taking first most asinine and inadequate offer for his own guy, he would now have straight lane to Giannis, wouldn't he? At least Giannis for Luka is not THAT bad.

Luka isn't signing an extension to play in Milwaukee during the prime of his career.

You are probably right, but who knows, hard to pass Luka offer.

[kbitboc]

BS

it's giannis who keeps getting injured late

it's giannis who wanted to let go jrue for lillard

but it's not his fault that the bucks are old

and it's giannis's fault that he's become a whiner

Yep. He has always threatened the Bucks about re-signing in the past if they don't give him the players he wanted or basically if they don't do anything he wanted like keeping his bro on the team. He only re-signed because the Bucks were able to get those players and did everything he wanted. Now that the Bucks can't improve anymore, the first thing he wants to do is bolt.

[Chuck Everett]

Towns could help keep them from being terrible until their pick debt is paid and they can pivot to a rebuild...and tough to imagine a better supporting cast for the greek freak than Brunson, Anunoby, and Bridges.

...just sayin'

I agree, but trading Towns for Giannis, man that would be such a ballsy move by Leon Rose that if it failed, best believe no player would trust him ever again. I also think Towns would not like Milwaukee because the fans would just see him as a lesser version of Giannis. If they're trading Giannis, it needs to be for a younger/shinier player with upside.

[cgf]

Towns could help keep them from being terrible until their pick debt is paid and they can pivot to a rebuild...and tough to imagine a better supporting cast for the greek freak than Brunson, Anunoby, and Bridges.

...just sayin'

I agree, but trading Towns for Giannis, man that would be such a ballsy move by Leon Rose that if it failed, best believe no player would trust him ever again. I also think Towns would not like Milwaukee because the fans would just see him as a lesser version of Giannis. If they're trading Giannis, it needs to be for a younger/shinier player with upside.

With the way this postseason has gone, you're probably right. If Boston swept us in 4 straight blowouts or we had s*** the bed against Detroit, it would be a lot easier to justify trading Karl after just one year for a recent MVP...especially if the Bucks could be surprisingly good around Towns, out of nowhere.

But with us giving the Celtics a fight, even if we lose this series, it's hard not to just run it back & see what this group could do with a training camp & an 8th man.

[Sixers in 4]

Can this thread be deleted as speculative? Why are we treating “maybe” as journalism

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Misery likes company huh? How’s that cap sheet for the 76ers again? Enjoy paying PG13 and Embiid max contracts for the next few seasons

Sports is not real life, I'll be fine. I would say, "Yeah, dude, he must want out," if Embiid did what Giannis did and moved on, maybe going to watch some baseball or NFL next year after he was traded.

I don't mean to offend, but your post reads like it was written by a five-year-old. He loves MIL, so it is impossible for him to want to leave. Everybody else is telling lies. Grow up the dude has two years on his deal he isn't resigning and wants be traded so he can go to a good team.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

If I’m the Bucks GM I don’t allow the Pacers to consolidate their bench pieces and role players. If left to their own devices, the Pacers will have to make cuts because they can’t pay all of them.

My dude, I’ve said multiple times now that the Pacers and the Bucks aren’t going to trade. That was literally my first quote in this thread. Someone mentioned the Pacers and I said it would never happen…

Cool, idk why you feel the need to keep reiterating that when I’m in agreement with what you said. I’m allowed to also expand on my reasoning there, you seem unnecessarily defensive.

The way you worded your post made it sound like I was trying to argue the Bucks and Pacers should trade.

Kinda like how I said “Siakam would be a part of the package” then you turned around and pretty much said “Siakam isn’t enough to get it down” completely ignoring what I said.

Whatever though.

[xdrta+]

Why would a number of betting sites list the Warriors as a favorite or near-favorite to get Giannis. For instance, BETMGM lists, as of today:

Rockets................+475
Warriors...............+625
Thunder................+625
Spurs...................+700

I don't get what the Warriors have that the Bucks would possibly be interested in. Besides the salary matching being nearly impossible.

[ball_takes23]

Towns could help keep them from being terrible until their pick debt is paid and they can pivot to a rebuild...and tough to imagine a better supporting cast for the greek freak than Brunson, Anunoby, and Bridges.

...just sayin'

I agree, but trading Towns for Giannis, man that would be such a ballsy move by Leon Rose that if it failed, best believe no player would trust him ever again. I also think Towns would not like Milwaukee because the fans would just see him as a lesser version of Giannis. If they're trading Giannis, it needs to be for a younger/shinier player with upside.

With the way this postseason has gone, you're probably right. If Boston swept us in 4 straight blowouts or we had s*** the bed against Detroit, it would be a lot easier to justify trading Karl after just one year for a recent MVP...especially if the Bucks could be surprisingly good around Towns, out of nowhere.

But with us giving the Celtics a fight, even if we lose this series, it's hard not to just run it back & see what this group could do with a training camp & an 8th man.

this postseason is fools gold for New York. 5 of 6 wins by 3 points or less. negative net rating in the playoffs. entire core is 28-29. trade for Giannis now or stay mediocre forever.

[cgf]

I agree, but trading Towns for Giannis, man that would be such a ballsy move by Leon Rose that if it failed, best believe no player would trust him ever again. I also think Towns would not like Milwaukee because the fans would just see him as a lesser version of Giannis. If they're trading Giannis, it needs to be for a younger/shinier player with upside.

With the way this postseason has gone, you're probably right. If Boston swept us in 4 straight blowouts or we had s*** the bed against Detroit, it would be a lot easier to justify trading Karl after just one year for a recent MVP...especially if the Bucks could be surprisingly good around Towns, out of nowhere.

But with us giving the Celtics a fight, even if we lose this series, it's hard not to just run it back & see what this group could do with a training camp & an 8th man.

this postseason is fools gold for New York. 5 of 6 wins by 3 points or less. negative net rating in the playoffs. entire core is 28-29. trade for Giannis now or stay mediocre forever.

Come on now. We're talking about the Knicks, not the has-been Warriors.

[JayMKE]

They just hyping up the draft lottery, making headline out of nothing.

[JKiddy]

Towns could help keep them from being terrible until their pick debt is paid and they can pivot to a rebuild...and tough to imagine a better supporting cast for the greek freak than Brunson, Anunoby, and Bridges.

...just sayin'

How many tradeable 1st round picks does NYK have to offer in that deal?

[___Rand___]

But seriously, who's ready to win and got lots of assets? OKC. Pacers. Houston.

Dark horses - Philly, Mavs, Raptors.

OKC - why not. Chet for Giannis and some picks? Pacers got tons of young players. Swap Pascal and a young player with picks for Giannis. Houston - Jabari and some picks for Giannis. And you can't forget the Nigerian connection - Ime and Giannis would be a dream team.

Philly could go for broke here - will have to trade one of Embiid or PG13 and picks. Mavs are in a hurry to get legit, though the fit of Davis and Giannis is questionable. Masai has always dreamt of working with Giannis. He just might be ready to pull off another monster trade.

I thought the Raps had a legit chance several years before the Bucks got Jrue but not anymore.

How do you figure the Raps would be darkhorses now?

Masai is going to try and get involved. It's going to take 2-3 players I figure - both salary and asset wise - Ingram, RJ, a young guy, and a few picks. It's doable. Is it enough to win a chip? Who knows. Will Giannis OK this? I think OKC or Pacers would be tough to compete against, if they were involved or interested. That's why we're a dark horse.