2025 NBA Draft

[Bensational]

Rasheer Fleming could potentially take Isaac's spot. He plays with a lot of force and has a 7'5" wingspan

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Just watched a scouting video on him and had similar thoughts. With that wingspan he could probably anchor a defense as a small-ball 5 because he’s built strong. He just shot up my board.

[cedric76]

Rasheer Fleming could potentially take Isaac's spot. He plays with a lot of force and has a 7'5" wingspan

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Just watched a scouting video on him and had similar thoughts. With that wingspan he could probably anchor a defense as a small-ball 5 because he’s built strong. He just shot up my board.

Reminds me Hendricks from last year draft

[basketballRob]

This year's Jalen Williams.

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[T-Cat]

This year's Jalen Williams.

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No more players with messed up hairlines

[drsd]

This year's Jalen Williams.

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Bates over Howard for the deep bench; sure. Bates has an employable skill and I think he would be a nice practice-squad, 3rd stringer.

[dsg2021]

I have completed two initial Stats-based Scouting Lists. First, I filtered through the top half of the NCAAM conferences, disregarding the bottom half of conferences (and International Play & G League Play). Then, I was also heavily penalizing FT%, any height 6'4 or below, and any 3P% that was not like 36 3P% or higher with certain exceptions such as Freshman campaigns only and a high FT% to rebut the lower 3P%. DWS, Drtg, and DBpm were very heavy considerations as well.

The next idea is to eye-scout them next in clips only probably. Can't be bothered with games. The other reason is I also had many names not in the top 60 consensus of Tankathon. Which adds more reason to "I am missing something" like I didn't notice things like their 24 year old age already, their short wingspan, and/or their slow foot speed/lateral movement, poor conference competition, etc. etc.

With that said, here it is. Already ranked in the relative order of my preference BEFORE any eye-scouting of clips. I hope to next narrow all of this down to 2-3 players total, basically. At some point. Hopefully. But obviously, if fellow posters are saying any of these names a lot, then add my vote too.

List of Guards whose Assist Rates suggest playing PG next to Suggs -
Kasparas Jakucionis
Adrian Wooley
Bennett Stirtz
Milos Uzan
Augustas Marciulionis
Nique Clifford
Jonathan Pierre* - Special exception as 6'9 PG but age is a mystery, probably 23-24. And defensive stats did not sing his praises.
Egor Demin* - Special exception as 6'9 PG and only 19 yrs old. I confess to some small clip scouting already and being impressed despite the poor shooting at this point.

List of Guards whose Assist Rates suggest playing SG next to Suggs -
Kon Knueppel
V.J. Edgecombe
Tre Johnson
Silas Demary Jr.
Chad Baker-Mazara
Brice Williams


UPDATE:
From first list, Nique Clifford and Adrian Wooley (committed to NCAAM) already standing out in very early clip compilations.
From second list, V.J. Edgecombe, Chad Baker-Mazara (committed to NCAAM), and Brice Williams already standing out in very early clip compilations.

[pepe1991]

Lottery is tonight.

[cedric76]

I have completed two initial Stats-based Scouting Lists. First, I filtered through the top half of the NCAAM conferences, disregarding the bottom half of conferences (and International Play & G League Play). Then, I was also heavily penalizing FT%, any height 6'4 or below, and any 3P% that was not like 36 3P% or higher with certain exceptions such as Freshman campaigns only and a high FT% to rebut the lower 3P%. DWS, Drtg, and DBpm were very heavy considerations as well.

The next idea is to eye-scout them next in clips only probably. Can't be bothered with games. The other reason is I also had many names not in the top 60 consensus of Tankathon. Which adds more reason to "I am missing something" like I didn't notice things like their 24 year old age already, their short wingspan, and/or their slow foot speed/lateral movement, poor conference competition, etc. etc.

With that said, here it is. Already ranked in the relative order of my preference BEFORE any eye-scouting of clips. I hope to next narrow all of this down to 2-3 players total, basically. At some point. Hopefully. But obviously, if fellow posters are saying of these names a lot, then I already love it too.

List of Guards whose Assist Rates suggest playing PG next to Suggs -
Kasparas Jakucionis
Adrian Wooley
Bennett Stirtz
Milos Uzan
Augustas Marciulionis
Nique Clifford
Jonathan Pierre* - Special exception as 6'9 PG but age is a mystery, probably 23-24. And defensive stats did not sing his praises.
Egor Demin* - Special exception as 6'9 PG and only 19 yrs old. I confess to some small clip scouting already and being impressed despite the poor shooting at this point.

List of Guards whose Assist Rates suggest playing SG next to Suggs -
Kon Knueppel
V.J. Edgecombe
Tre Johnson
Silas Demary Jr.
Chad Baker-Mazara
Brice Williams


UPDATE:
From first list, Nique Clifford and Adrian Wooley (committed to NCAAM) already standing out in very early clip compilations.
From second list, V.J. Edgecombe, Chad Baker-Mazara (committed to NCAAM), and Brice Williams already standing out in very early clip compilations.

Nique will be a solid player

[three3d]

https://youtu.be/sVR_QTlG8Uo?si=PgGRhBAExtRpXxMy

There’s just something about Clayton Jr, he’s gotten better at ever level and every season has improved statistically. I hope they bring him in and take a seriously.

[Idiosyncratic]

I have completed two initial Stats-based Scouting Lists. First, I filtered through the top half of the NCAAM conferences, disregarding the bottom half of conferences (and International Play & G League Play). Then, I was also heavily penalizing FT%, any height 6'4 or below, and any 3P% that was not like 36 3P% or higher with certain exceptions such as Freshman campaigns only and a high FT% to rebut the lower 3P%. DWS, Drtg, and DBpm were very heavy considerations as well.

The next idea is to eye-scout them next in clips only probably. Can't be bothered with games. The other reason is I also had many names not in the top 60 consensus of Tankathon. Which adds more reason to "I am missing something" like I didn't notice things like their 24 year old age already, their short wingspan, and/or their slow foot speed/lateral movement, poor conference competition, etc. etc.

With that said, here it is. Already ranked in the relative order of my preference BEFORE any eye-scouting of clips. I hope to next narrow all of this down to 2-3 players total, basically. At some point. Hopefully. But obviously, if fellow posters are saying of these names a lot, then I already love it too.

List of Guards whose Assist Rates suggest playing PG next to Suggs -
Kasparas Jakucionis
Adrian Wooley
Bennett Stirtz
Milos Uzan
Augustas Marciulionis
Nique Clifford
Jonathan Pierre* - Special exception as 6'9 PG but age is a mystery, probably 23-24. And defensive stats did not sing his praises.
Egor Demin* - Special exception as 6'9 PG and only 19 yrs old. I confess to some small clip scouting already and being impressed despite the poor shooting at this point.

List of Guards whose Assist Rates suggest playing SG next to Suggs -
Kon Knueppel
V.J. Edgecombe
Tre Johnson
Silas Demary Jr.
Chad Baker-Mazara
Brice Williams


UPDATE:
From first list, Nique Clifford and Adrian Wooley (committed to NCAAM) already standing out in very early clip compilations.
From second list, V.J. Edgecombe, Chad Baker-Mazara (committed to NCAAM), and Brice Williams already standing out in very early clip compilations.

I like that you have some lesser talked about guys on here, sometimes stat based analysis does uncover these types. Clifford to me is a 3 in the NBA, he reminds me of a better TDS. A lot of these guys are very old, Baker-Mazara I think is 25 and going back to school.

I like Uzan as far as the more underrated guards go. I would take him with our 1st 2nd rounder. He may go back to school though.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

you know NBA would love either Philly or Spurs to land #1 pick tonight.

[yoyojw17]

I have completed two initial Stats-based Scouting Lists. First, I filtered through the top half of the NCAAM conferences, disregarding the bottom half of conferences (and International Play & G League Play). Then, I was also heavily penalizing FT%, any height 6'4 or below, and any 3P% that was not like 36 3P% or higher with certain exceptions such as Freshman campaigns only and a high FT% to rebut the lower 3P%. DWS, Drtg, and DBpm were very heavy considerations as well.

The next idea is to eye-scout them next in clips only probably. Can't be bothered with games. The other reason is I also had many names not in the top 60 consensus of Tankathon. Which adds more reason to "I am missing something" like I didn't notice things like their 24 year old age already, their short wingspan, and/or their slow foot speed/lateral movement, poor conference competition, etc. etc.

With that said, here it is. Already ranked in the relative order of my preference BEFORE any eye-scouting of clips. I hope to next narrow all of this down to 2-3 players total, basically. At some point. Hopefully. But obviously, if fellow posters are saying of these names a lot, then I already love it too.

List of Guards whose Assist Rates suggest playing PG next to Suggs -
Kasparas Jakucionis
Adrian Wooley
Bennett Stirtz
Milos Uzan
Augustas Marciulionis
Nique Clifford
Jonathan Pierre* - Special exception as 6'9 PG but age is a mystery, probably 23-24. And defensive stats did not sing his praises.
Egor Demin* - Special exception as 6'9 PG and only 19 yrs old. I confess to some small clip scouting already and being impressed despite the poor shooting at this point.

List of Guards whose Assist Rates suggest playing SG next to Suggs -
Kon Knueppel
V.J. Edgecombe
Tre Johnson
Silas Demary Jr.
Chad Baker-Mazara
Brice Williams


UPDATE:
From first list, Nique Clifford and Adrian Wooley (committed to NCAAM) already standing out in very early clip compilations.
From second list, V.J. Edgecombe, Chad Baker-Mazara (committed to NCAAM), and Brice Williams already standing out in very early clip compilations.

Nique will be a solid player

Bennett Stirtz is also on my list! Would love to have a player like him running the bench.

[Idiosyncratic]

Stirtz is headed to Iowa. This draft has lost and still will lose some talent to NIL. It will balance out over time, but it was my fear for this draft, especially since we have three solid picks (57 is pretty fake, slight leg up on undrafted guys I guess). Also lowers the picks trade value.

Still could lose guys like Sorber, Yaxel, Pettiford, Coward. Isaiah Evans withdrew today.

[eyriq]

Stirtz is headed to Iowa. This draft has lost and still will lose some talent to NIL. It will balance out over time, but it was my fear for this draft, especially since we have three solid picks (57 is pretty fake, slight leg up on undrafted guys I guess). Also lowers the picks trade value.

Still could lose guys like Sorber, Yaxel, Pettiford, Coward. Isaiah Evans withdrew today.

He showed up in my top 5 without adjusting for age

[Idiosyncratic]

Stirtz is headed to Iowa. This draft has lost and still will lose some talent to NIL. It will balance out over time, but it was my fear for this draft, especially since we have three solid picks (57 is pretty fake, slight leg up on undrafted guys I guess). Also lowers the picks trade value.

Still could lose guys like Sorber, Yaxel, Pettiford, Coward. Isaiah Evans withdrew today.

He showed up in my top 5 without adjusting for age

Yeah he would have been a viable pick at 25 for me. If he repeats this year at Iowa he should be a 1st rounder next year.

[dsg2021]

I'm missing something with Kasparas Jakucionis and Kon Knueppel. I was not impressed by the clips enough, and I am going to chalk it up to just seeing so few clips so far still. Especially with Kasparas.

I haven't seen enough of Dylan Harper but what I've seen so far is not standing out enough to me. There's always a James Harden comp every summer and then no real James Harden remix. It is not like the Haliburton, SGA, Luka draft selections when I posted "trade up!". Cade Cunningham was 50/50 for me on that too.

If we wanted to draft off of comps, go for Ben Saraf with his Manu Ginobili comp instead. Stash him in Europe where he already is, and see if he goes another level that includes his Shooting and Defense improving more. Nolan Traore is the other international guard that is even higher rated.

But if I had to guess, I would hold the ORL picks for something like Nique Clifford as a PG, and one of the 7 ft plus Centers like Maxime Raynaud (didn't check out Centers much yet). Chase after the very polarizing Kristaps Porzingis in SnT and put in regular season JI protocol (but less than 26 MPG instead of 19). Trade for Dejounte Murray, while considering Ty Jerome, Anfernee Simons, Colin Sexton as fall backs. Add a budget sniper or two like Gary Trent Jr.

[Idiosyncratic]

Combine measurements coming in. Some relevant ones to us :

Jase Richardson at 6'0 1/2. Probably stock down, let him fall to me at 16 I will still gladly take him. 8'2 standing reach and 6'6 wingspan so he has long arms. Bad height for a likely off-ball guard, but we have Suggs and AB to cover the bigger guard and also Jase tries on defense IMO and wasn't bad on that end. That was always the question though, short without clear PG skills.

Danny Wolf 6'10 1/2, 7'2 wingspan, 9'1 standing reach.

Cedric Coward 6'5 with a 7'2 wingspan and 8'10 standing reach... wow... Still maintain I would take him at 25.

Fleming 6'8 with a 7'5 wingspan, 9'1 1/2 standing reach He is massive. If the shooting is real he is going to be a really good complimentary piece. Or if he can play center he won't need the shot as much.

Sorber 6'9 with a 7'6 wingspan 9'1 standing reach. Super strong, long arms, great reactions for blocks and steals. You can't go wrong with Sorber IMO

[Message Boar]

So who's winning the lottery tonight? Sadly I can't watch, I have to get up early tomorrow.

[RookieStar]

So who's winning the lottery tonight? Sadly I can't watch, I have to get up early tomorrow.

Washington I have a feeling...

[Idiosyncratic]

So who's winning the lottery tonight? Sadly I can't watch, I have to get up early tomorrow.

Washington I have a feeling...

Ditto.