Giannis relocation to Ohio

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Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#1 » by facothomas22 » Mon May 12, 2025 5:56 pm

Bucks/Cavaliers/Magic/Pelicans

Cavaliers out: Evan Mobley + Darius Garland + Cavaliers 2031 is round pick + multiple draft swaps
Cavaliers in: Giannis, Pat Connaughton

Bucks out: Giannis, Pat Connaughton
Bucks in: Evan Mobley + Anthony Black + CJ McCollum + 16th pick in this year's draft +Bucks 2026 and 2027 picks returned + Magic 2027 1st round pick + Cavaliers 2031 1st round pick+multiple draft swaps from the Cavaliers

Magic out: Jalen Suggs + Anthony Black + 16th pick in the draft, Magic 2031 1st round pick
Magic in: Darius Garland

Pelicans out: CJ McCollum, Bucks 2026 pick swap removed, Bucks 2027 1st round pick returned, CJ McCollum
Pelicans in: Jalen Suggs



Why the Cavaliers do this: I think the Cavaliers would better if the Donovan Mitchell play more of the Robin role instead of the Batman role and Giannis would be the clear Batman in Cleveland. They would still have enough depth to have a contending roster around them,while also clearing salary.

Why the Bucks do this: They move on from their Franchise Superstar and they bring in a Blue Chip player who won defensive player of the year and still has room to grow into a even better player. They also get back a young guard who has upside and they get some of their own picks back, which would enable them to tank for the next couple of years, along with additional draft capital.

Why the Magic do this. They get their point guard who significantly improve their offense.Anything they lost with Jalen Suggs and Anthony Black on defense, they will more than gain on offense with Darius Garland, who proven to be a decent 2nd option and would a elite 3rd option.

Why the Pelicans do this: They return the Bucks picks, get rid of CJ McCollum and in return they get a great point of attach defender who can be a good 3pt shooter. They may need to trade Herb Jones for additional value due to fit concerns next to Jalen Suggs or even include another team to flip Jalen Suggs into additional value.
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#2 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon May 12, 2025 6:02 pm

I think the Pelicans are giving up too light of value. Those Milwaukee picks aren't really worth a lot at the moment UNLESS Giannis is traded.

This could just be a Magic/Cavaliers trade.

Suggs + Black + #16 for Garland
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#3 » by jbk1234 » Mon May 12, 2025 6:04 pm

I wouldn't offer Garland and Mobley for Giannis, but if the Cavs are foolish enough to do so, that's the best package that'll be offered and the picks aren't necessary. Including the Magic makes this trade less likely for a number of reasons not the least of which is the CBA.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#4 » by BadWolf » Mon May 12, 2025 6:20 pm

With Mobley and Garland available Bucks dont really go for their own picks.
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#5 » by jayjaysee » Mon May 12, 2025 6:23 pm

Yeah, if you are trading for Mobley you don’t also trade for the ability to tank for two years IMO?

And I really don’t think Garland is 3 firsts more valuable than Suggs? Maybe I’m in minority there though.
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#6 » by axeman23 » Mon May 12, 2025 6:34 pm

I'd just do Suggs, Black & the 16th this year for Mitchell instead of Garland, and call it a day. No interest in trading Mobley, I'd rather see where the team we could've had pre-Mitchell can take us. That's contingent on Suggs passing a medical, of course...
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#7 » by jbk1234 » Mon May 12, 2025 6:37 pm

axeman23 wrote:I'd just do Suggs, Black & the 16th this year for Mitchell instead of Garland, and call it a day. No interest in trading Mobley, I'd rather see where the team we could've had pre-Mitchell can take us. That's contingent on Suggs passing a medical, of course...


You can't trade for Suggs until he's taken the court again. Not unless you're prepared to waive the physical and that's professional malpractice.
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#8 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon May 12, 2025 6:39 pm

axeman23 wrote:I'd just do Suggs, Black & the 16th this year for Mitchell instead of Garland, and call it a day. No interest in trading Mobley, I'd rather see where the team we could've had pre-Mitchell can take us. That's contingent on Suggs passing a medical, of course...


Cleveland would never do that.
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#9 » by DowJones » Mon May 12, 2025 6:45 pm

I say no as a Cavs fan. I would offer Garland and Mobley, maybe, but that is my personal best and final.
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#10 » by axeman23 » Mon May 12, 2025 6:46 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
axeman23 wrote:I'd just do Suggs, Black & the 16th this year for Mitchell instead of Garland, and call it a day. No interest in trading Mobley, I'd rather see where the team we could've had pre-Mitchell can take us. That's contingent on Suggs passing a medical, of course...


Cleveland would never do that.



ASSUMING Suggs came back well with no obvious medical red flags, I think they'd be a better team overall if they did and leaned into maximizing Mobley. The team as is with Mitchell continuing to monopolize the offense as part of an under-sized and exploitable backcourt has obvious limits, and it's time to realise that.
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#11 » by axeman23 » Mon May 12, 2025 6:47 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
axeman23 wrote:I'd just do Suggs, Black & the 16th this year for Mitchell instead of Garland, and call it a day. No interest in trading Mobley, I'd rather see where the team we could've had pre-Mitchell can take us. That's contingent on Suggs passing a medical, of course...


You can't trade for Suggs until he's taken the court again. Not unless you're prepared to waive the physical and that's professional malpractice.



Yes, more than fair... :thumbsup:
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#12 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon May 12, 2025 6:50 pm

axeman23 wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
axeman23 wrote:I'd just do Suggs, Black & the 16th this year for Mitchell instead of Garland, and call it a day. No interest in trading Mobley, I'd rather see where the team we could've had pre-Mitchell can take us. That's contingent on Suggs passing a medical, of course...


Cleveland would never do that.



ASSUMING Suggs came back well with no obvious medical red flags, I think they'd be a better team overall if they did and leaned into maximizing Mobley. The team as is with Mitchell continuing to monopolize the offense as part of an under-sized and exploitable backcourt has obvious limits, and it's time to realise that.


Mitchell only monopolized the ball because Garland is out injured :crazy:
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#13 » by jbk1234 » Mon May 12, 2025 8:32 pm

axeman23 wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
axeman23 wrote:I'd just do Suggs, Black & the 16th this year for Mitchell instead of Garland, and call it a day. No interest in trading Mobley, I'd rather see where the team we could've had pre-Mitchell can take us. That's contingent on Suggs passing a medical, of course...


Cleveland would never do that.



ASSUMING Suggs came back well with no obvious medical red flags, I think they'd be a better team overall if they did and leaned into maximizing Mobley. The team as is with Mitchell continuing to monopolize the offense as part of an under-sized and exploitable backcourt has obvious limits, and it's time to realise that.


Those medical red flags are already there and I'm not convinced Suggs will be healthier than Garland given his PNR defense. There's a reason older guys like Westbrook tap out on high screens.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#14 » by Presser » Mon May 12, 2025 10:58 pm

Giannis is incredible but i am not moving Mobley. Mobley and Mitchell should be the two untouchables
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Re: Giannis relocation to Ohio 

Post#15 » by toooskies » Mon May 12, 2025 11:46 pm

Presser wrote:Giannis is incredible but i am not moving Mobley. Mobley and Mitchell should be the two untouchables

About the only three guys that are untouchable in a Giannis deal are Jokic, SGA, and Wemby. Maaaaaybe Flagg.

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