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exculpatory wrote:Looked at video in slo mo multiple times.
Even as an endocrinologist, it is very apparent that this is 99.99% an Achilles rupture.
Very tragic.
He will miss 1/2 the season or perhaps the entire season in 25-26.
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:PierceFan4ever wrote:Really sucks how pretty much a week ago we were all feeling pretty good heading into this series, Tatum playing well and the Celtics playing their best playoff game at the time for game 5. Then they blow 2 home games, and nobody really showed up to help Tatum besides white in the first half. Even if we were down 3-1, I still had some faith in the Celtics coming back but then that devastating injury happened which really set the Celtics back. It’s a shame seeing how the other teams are looking in these playoffs to really feel like the team had a shot to repeat but they self destructed in an epic way usually how most teams do after winning a championship the following season.
I am glad they got one ship but i am a fool for thinking this group could win multiple championships. I mean this series is giving me nightmares. Worse feeling since game 7 against miami.
fallguy wrote:Bar Fight wrote:Words can’t describe how badly I want Mazzulla fired. Dude really lost two series against massive underdogs in three years.
LOOK THEY GOT GREAT SHOTS WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT
GrandTheftRondo wrote:fallguy wrote:Bar Fight wrote:Words can’t describe how badly I want Mazzulla fired. Dude really lost two series against massive underdogs in three years.
LOOK THEY GOT GREAT SHOTS WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT
Do we credit any of the blame to Tatum/Brown?
They have not executed in close playoff games consistently virtually since 2018.
It’s been an inherent flaw with teams led by them in basically every playoff run.
We won last year because we had so much talent it didn’t even matter.
Seriously, how many times since 2020 in the playoffs have we had bad losses because of dumb shots, sloppy passes etc?
That final play with Tatum going down was like a perfect representation of all the bad parts of their run.
Lazy sloppy pass, screwing around against a hungry team and bad injury luck to top it off.
Thankful we won last year and will always cherish that but I don’t think we ever got past the same issues with Tatum and Brown.
You can blame Joe but it was the same under Ime and Brad.
Maybe Tatum was doomed no matter what but we should have been up further in the third and maybe Tatum wouldn’t have been playing deep in the fourth.
fallguy wrote:GrandTheftRondo wrote:fallguy wrote:
LOOK THEY GOT GREAT SHOTS WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT
Do we credit any of the blame to Tatum/Brown?
They have not executed in close playoff games consistently virtually since 2018.
It’s been an inherent flaw with teams led by them in basically every playoff run.
We won last year because we had so much talent it didn’t even matter.
Seriously, how many times since 2020 in the playoffs have we had bad losses because of dumb shots, sloppy passes etc?
That final play with Tatum going down was like a perfect representation of all the bad parts of their run.
Lazy sloppy pass, screwing around against a hungry team and bad injury luck to top it off.
Thankful we won last year and will always cherish that but I don’t think we ever got past the same issues with Tatum and Brown.
You can blame Joe but it was the same under Ime and Brad.
Maybe Tatum was doomed no matter what but we should have been up further in the third and maybe Tatum wouldn’t have been playing deep in the fourth.
Yes, I agree. Trade Brown.
GrandTheftRondo wrote:I dunno. The whole thing depresses me.
I still think even with the loss tonight we could have come back from 3-1 with a healthy Tatum.
GrandTheftRondo wrote:fallguy wrote:Bar Fight wrote:Words can’t describe how badly I want Mazzulla fired. Dude really lost two series against massive underdogs in three years.
LOOK THEY GOT GREAT SHOTS WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT
Do we credit any of the blame to Tatum/Brown?
They have not executed in close playoff games consistently virtually since 2018.
It’s been an inherent flaw with teams led by them in basically every playoff run.
We won last year because we had so much talent it didn’t even matter.
Seriously, how many times since 2020 in the playoffs have we had bad losses because of dumb shots, sloppy passes etc?
That final play with Tatum going down was like a perfect representation of all the bad parts of their run.
Lazy sloppy pass, screwing around against a hungry team and bad injury luck to top it off.
Thankful we won last year and will always cherish that but I don’t think we ever got past the same issues with Tatum and Brown.
You can blame Joe but it was the same under Ime and Brad.
Maybe Tatum was doomed no matter what but we should have been up further in the third and maybe Tatum wouldn’t have been playing deep in the fourth.
Bar Fight wrote:GrandTheftRondo wrote:fallguy wrote:
LOOK THEY GOT GREAT SHOTS WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT
Do we credit any of the blame to Tatum/Brown?
They have not executed in close playoff games consistently virtually since 2018.
It’s been an inherent flaw with teams led by them in basically every playoff run.
We won last year because we had so much talent it didn’t even matter.
Seriously, how many times since 2020 in the playoffs have we had bad losses because of dumb shots, sloppy passes etc?
That final play with Tatum going down was like a perfect representation of all the bad parts of their run.
Lazy sloppy pass, screwing around against a hungry team and bad injury luck to top it off.
Thankful we won last year and will always cherish that but I don’t think we ever got past the same issues with Tatum and Brown.
You can blame Joe but it was the same under Ime and Brad.
Maybe Tatum was doomed no matter what but we should have been up further in the third and maybe Tatum wouldn’t have been playing deep in the fourth.
Ime and Brad got the most out of their teams. They didn’t lose Playoff series they were heavily favored in. Joe has done it twice in three years.
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:Management will have to work their magic. I expect a **** year next season.
Marvel wrote:We're ****. Now and next season. ****
Bar Fight wrote:GrandTheftRondo wrote:fallguy wrote:
LOOK THEY GOT GREAT SHOTS WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT
Do we credit any of the blame to Tatum/Brown?
They have not executed in close playoff games consistently virtually since 2018.
It’s been an inherent flaw with teams led by them in basically every playoff run.
We won last year because we had so much talent it didn’t even matter.
Seriously, how many times since 2020 in the playoffs have we had bad losses because of dumb shots, sloppy passes etc?
That final play with Tatum going down was like a perfect representation of all the bad parts of their run.
Lazy sloppy pass, screwing around against a hungry team and bad injury luck to top it off.
Thankful we won last year and will always cherish that but I don’t think we ever got past the same issues with Tatum and Brown.
You can blame Joe but it was the same under Ime and Brad.
Maybe Tatum was doomed no matter what but we should have been up further in the third and maybe Tatum wouldn’t have been playing deep in the fourth.
Ime and Brad got the most out of their teams. They didn’t lose Playoff series they were heavily favored in. Joe has done it twice in three years.
itrsteve wrote:GrandTheftRondo wrote:I dunno. The whole thing depresses me.
I still think even with the loss tonight we could have come back from 3-1 with a healthy Tatum.
Hell yeah it’s depressing but we have to be honest with ourselves on what we were rolling out on the floor.
Even hypothetically making the ECF and falling short would have gave the green light for the “what if” game and run back a mostly similar roster and would have slowly regressed into mediocrity next season.
Tatum’s injury removes reservation on a run it back season rooted in nostalgia and start looking at the future.
Might suck for a bit but we’ve been spoiled but there will be much to look forward to which we don’t see yet.
GrandTheftRondo wrote:Bar Fight wrote:GrandTheftRondo wrote:Do we credit any of the blame to Tatum/Brown?
They have not executed in close playoff games consistently virtually since 2018.
It’s been an inherent flaw with teams led by them in basically every playoff run.
We won last year because we had so much talent it didn’t even matter.
Seriously, how many times since 2020 in the playoffs have we had bad losses because of dumb shots, sloppy passes etc?
That final play with Tatum going down was like a perfect representation of all the bad parts of their run.
Lazy sloppy pass, screwing around against a hungry team and bad injury luck to top it off.
Thankful we won last year and will always cherish that but I don’t think we ever got past the same issues with Tatum and Brown.
You can blame Joe but it was the same under Ime and Brad.
Maybe Tatum was doomed no matter what but we should have been up further in the third and maybe Tatum wouldn’t have been playing deep in the fourth.
Ime and Brad got the most out of their teams. They didn’t lose Playoff series they were heavily favored in. Joe has done it twice in three years.
Maybe.
I’m just saying I think Tatum and Brown have always been inherently flawed in a way when it comes to late game offence.
Brown has a shaky handle and lacks the basketball IQ to not get sucked into defensive traps etc and he doesn’t naturally create for others.
Tatum has improved a hell of a lot since his rookie year but he still doesn’t blow by defenders easily. He struggles to get to good spots all the time. His handle deserts him too at times.
We love to go on about bad shots by these guys and how they should take better ones. But defences have always been great at exploiting their weaknesses. Unfortunately Tatum and Brown as good as they are have never scored as smoothly and effortlessly as other championship duos. They get forced into bad shots because of their flaws.
You can move Joe on fine but I think the next coach will have the exact same issue.
