2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10

[batterybro42]

After Bron left, they had been trying to patch a sinking ship ever since, 10y of mid without a proper reset and they'll continue, the Jimmy fluke years done their damage

2 finals appearances and 3 conference finals on that sinking ship after the best player of the last two decades left and our max contract hall of famer got literal blood clots, and had to end his career.

What you guys consider to be a dumpster fire would equate to the best run of over half the organizations in the league in their history.

Yeah! They can hang all these almost banners now!
The bubble and 23 run were as fluky as it gets, there was no method behind it, just luck of the draw and the right matchups.
Even mid teams have good runs sometimes but 5th or 8th seeds NEVER win, it's just a historic fact and that is what they have been for last 10 years.
The definition of a mid treadmill team.

Bron left the Cavs too for basically nothing, they reset and he came back to a team which had resources and assets.
They went on to go to 4 straight finals.

Bron left them again for nothing, they reset and are elite again!

Stop being blind, proper resets worked for many organizations willing to do it properly, doesn't even have to be a tank, just a proper reset, which clears cap space, brings all your young players on the same timeline and accumulates assets.

Funny you bring up the Cavs they just won their first playoff series without Lebron since 1992

The bubble run was not a fluke, you just forget the roster that was assembled post deadline after we brought in Iggy and Crowder. That team was loaded, and would have won the title if Goran did not get injured. Came back 2 years later, had the best record in the East, and our best player hitting a wide open uncontested shot from his spot away from going back to the finals, only to return to it the following year.

You could make an argument Miami has been the most consistent franchise in sports over the last 30 years, and we have fans in here crying like we are the Orlando Magic, and disrespecting the people who built it. Get a grip

We are not going to be a top 4 team in the league every single year, that is just not how it works, but this organization has proven without a doubt that more often than not they are going to be competing to be one of those teams. Since 2005 we have participated in 9 of 20 conference finals just consider that for a moment.

[twix2500]

Now that Mavs got an extremely young talent that will need to be invested in, it could mean trading AD to build younger around Flag

[DayofMourning]

Now that Mavs got an extremely young talent that will need to be invested in, it could mean trading AD to build younger around Flag

They should def trade 1st pick. Youve only got small windows.

[greg4012]

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Zion too risky, KD too old, Giannis won’t want to go there. Morant?

My tiers:

KD
Zion
Morant

KD is an echelon above. I do not like old dudes. Im 45. Im an old dude. I know how despite all the stretching and maintenance that ur body will fail. Its written in stone.

Zion and Morant arent mature mentally. They may be eventually. Will eventually be 40 years of age though?

KD age def comes with increased risk of decline and unavailability. But, what's crazy in discussing these 3 players is that KD has by far been the most available of the 3 of them over the past 3 seasons.

KD has averaged 61 games per season
Zion has averaged 43 games per season
Ja has averaged 40 games per season.

[greg4012]

The trading landscape in the NBA this offseason could def end up being more expansive than any of us have been projecting.

[MartyConlonJr]

Bam for Harrison Barnes, 2nd and 12th pick.
Wiggins for Hachimura, Gabe Vincent.
Trying to think of some trade where we give Herro to Bucks (home town tank commander), Pelicans give Bucks back their lotto picks (edit: oh, importantly for Giannis) and we get our pick back from Hornets basically.

We would be
C - Ware
PF - Jovic
SF - Jaquez Jr
SG - Harper (2nd)
PG - Fears (12th)

With all our picks back, Dybantsa in the tank for 26 and maybe 170 mill in cap space in 2 years

[greg4012]

Bam for Harrison Barnes, 2nd and 12th pick.
Wiggins for Hachimura, Gabe Vincent.
Trying to think of some trade where we give Herro to Bucks (home town tank commander), Pelicans give Bucks back their lotto picks and we get our pick back from Hornets basically.

We would be
C - Ware
PF - Jovic
SF - Jaquez Jr
SG - Harper (2nd)
PG - Fears (12th)

With all our picks back, Dybantsa in the tank for 26 and maybe 170 mill in cap space in 2 years

That squad will def have a fast track to having top odds for the #1 pick, then ending up with a pick somewhere around 4-7.

Harper is a G. One of the best slashing prospects in years.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Now that Mavs got an extremely young talent that will need to be invested in, it could mean trading AD to build younger around Flag

They should def trade 1st pick. Youve only got small windows.

Nico legit might trade it for Giannis. Wouldn’t put it past him at all. Hes got to win to prove a point and he definitely wants his “told you so” moment.

[twix2500]

Get Anthony Davis

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Get Anthony Davis

What’s your offer?

[DayofMourning]

Bam for Harrison Barnes, 2nd and 12th pick.
Wiggins for Hachimura, Gabe Vincent.
Trying to think of some trade where we give Herro to Bucks (home town tank commander), Pelicans give Bucks back their lotto picks and we get our pick back from Hornets basically.

We would be
C - Ware
PF - Jovic
SF - Jaquez Jr
SG - Harper (2nd)
PG - Fears (12th)

With all our picks back, Dybantsa in the tank for 26 and maybe 170 mill in cap space in 2 years

That squad will def have a fast track to having top odds for the #1 pick, then ending up with a pick somewhere around 4-7.

Harper is a G. One of the best slashing prospects in years.

Im game greg. Send it in.

[greg4012]

Bam for Harrison Barnes, 2nd and 12th pick.
Wiggins for Hachimura, Gabe Vincent.
Trying to think of some trade where we give Herro to Bucks (home town tank commander), Pelicans give Bucks back their lotto picks and we get our pick back from Hornets basically.

We would be
C - Ware
PF - Jovic
SF - Jaquez Jr
SG - Harper (2nd)
PG - Fears (12th)

With all our picks back, Dybantsa in the tank for 26 and maybe 170 mill in cap space in 2 years

That squad will def have a fast track to having top odds for the #1 pick, then ending up with a pick somewhere around 4-7.

Harper is a G. One of the best slashing prospects in years.

Im game greg. Send it in.

Oh we know

[VaDe255]

2 finals appearances and 3 conference finals on that sinking ship after the best player of the last two decades left and our max contract hall of famer got literal blood clots, and had to end his career.

What you guys consider to be a dumpster fire would equate to the best run of over half the organizations in the league in their history.

Yeah! They can hang all these almost banners now!
The bubble and 23 run were as fluky as it gets, there was no method behind it, just luck of the draw and the right matchups.
Even mid teams have good runs sometimes but 5th or 8th seeds NEVER win, it's just a historic fact and that is what they have been for last 10 years.
The definition of a mid treadmill team.

Bron left the Cavs too for basically nothing, they reset and he came back to a team which had resources and assets.
They went on to go to 4 straight finals.

Bron left them again for nothing, they reset and are elite again!

Stop being blind, proper resets worked for many organizations willing to do it properly, doesn't even have to be a tank, just a proper reset, which clears cap space, brings all your young players on the same timeline and accumulates assets.

Funny you bring up the Cavs they just won their first playoff series without Lebron since 1992

The bubble run was not a fluke, you just forget the roster that was assembled post deadline after we brought in Iggy and Crowder. That team was loaded, and would have won the title if Goran did not get injured. Came back 2 years later, had the best record in the East, and our best player hitting a wide open uncontested shot from his spot away from going back to the finals, only to return to it the following year.

You could make an argument Miami has been the most consistent franchise in sports over the last 30 years, and we have fans in here crying like we are the Orlando Magic, and disrespecting the people who built it. Get a grip

We are not going to be a top 4 team in the league every single year, that is just not how it works, but this organization has proven without a doubt that more often than not they are going to be competing to be one of those teams. Since 2005 we have participated in 9 of 20 conference finals just consider that for a moment.

Stop it, here are the facts of the last 10 years:

- Finished top 4 in the East, two times (1st 22, and 3rd 16)
- Average regular season wins 43
- Average Net Rating: +0.7
- Best Net Rating in 22, ranking them 6th overall

Not a single season can you consider them a top 4 team (I'm going by net rating which is far more reliable than W/L record).
They are the definition of a treadmill team, few other teams have been more mid than the Heat in this period.

Some fans are so blinded by fluke results (which didn't even lead to a title), when all the metrics and numbers are there to tell the real story.

Edit: Also the Heat have 0 championships without Shaq or Lebron, all time!

[DayofMourning]

Now that Mavs got an extremely young talent that will need to be invested in, it could mean trading AD to build younger around Flag

They should def trade 1st pick. Youve only got small windows.

Nico legit might trade it for Giannis. Wouldn’t put it past him at all. Hes got to win to prove a point and he definitely wants his “told you so” moment.

I think most would acknowledge that Giannis is a generational player in his prime. Thats the time to pounce when ur best players r Irving and AD. Both studs when healthy.

[DayofMourning]

That squad will def have a fast track to having top odds for the #1 pick, then ending up with a pick somewhere around 4-7.

Harper is a G. One of the best slashing prospects in years.

Im game greg. Send it in.

Oh we know

[batterybro42]

Now that Mavs got an extremely young talent that will need to be invested in, it could mean trading AD to build younger around Flag

They should def trade 1st pick. Youve only got small windows.

I would move Flagg and my mid tier contracts for Giannis and go all in. Flagg is cool but I don't see him being some type of generational star player, that will be AJ next season

[DayofMourning]

Now that Mavs got an extremely young talent that will need to be invested in, it could mean trading AD to build younger around Flag

They should def trade 1st pick. Youve only got small windows.

I would move Flagg and my mid tier contracts for Giannis and go all in. Flagg is cool but I don't see him being some type of generational star player, that will be AJ next season

Yeah. Manage ur window well and see what happens. No guarantees.

[batterybro42]

Yeah! They can hang all these almost banners now!
The bubble and 23 run were as fluky as it gets, there was no method behind it, just luck of the draw and the right matchups.
Even mid teams have good runs sometimes but 5th or 8th seeds NEVER win, it's just a historic fact and that is what they have been for last 10 years.
The definition of a mid treadmill team.

Bron left the Cavs too for basically nothing, they reset and he came back to a team which had resources and assets.
They went on to go to 4 straight finals.

Bron left them again for nothing, they reset and are elite again!

Stop being blind, proper resets worked for many organizations willing to do it properly, doesn't even have to be a tank, just a proper reset, which clears cap space, brings all your young players on the same timeline and accumulates assets.

Funny you bring up the Cavs they just won their first playoff series without Lebron since 1992

The bubble run was not a fluke, you just forget the roster that was assembled post deadline after we brought in Iggy and Crowder. That team was loaded, and would have won the title if Goran did not get injured. Came back 2 years later, had the best record in the East, and our best player hitting a wide open uncontested shot from his spot away from going back to the finals, only to return to it the following year.

You could make an argument Miami has been the most consistent franchise in sports over the last 30 years, and we have fans in here crying like we are the Orlando Magic, and disrespecting the people who built it. Get a grip

We are not going to be a top 4 team in the league every single year, that is just not how it works, but this organization has proven without a doubt that more often than not they are going to be competing to be one of those teams. Since 2005 we have participated in 9 of 20 conference finals just consider that for a moment.

Stop it, here are the facts of the last 10 years:

- Finished top 4 in the East, two times (1st 22, and 3rd 16)
- Average regular season wins 43
- Average Net Rating: +0.7
- Best Net Rating in 22, ranking them 6th overall

Not a single season can you consider them a top 4 team (I'm going by net rating which is far more reliable than W/L record).
They are the definition of a treadmill team, few other teams have been more mid than the Heat in this period.

Some fans are so blinded by fluke results (which didn't even lead to a title), when all the metrics and numbers are there to tell the real story.

Considering we started those 10 years off with losing the best player the league has seen outside Jordan and maybe Kobe for nothing in free agency, and then lost our best player to blood clots in the middle of his prime, also for nothing I would say this has been a remarkable 10 years which speaks to the overall strength of the organization. If you can't appreciate it you were likely never a Heat fan before the big 3 or appreciate the grind it takes for a team to even reach the 3rd round and how rare it is.

Talking here about net ratings and BS statistics like they somehow more important than post season success makes you look like a casual

In this disastrous 10 years for the Heat you speak of we are tied for 5th in league for playoff wins during that time, trailing only the Warriors, Celtics, Nuggets, and the Lebron led Cavs. All of which teams that were blessed with generational talents, and hall of fame players. Since you care so much about what happens in the the NBA in December we are 8th in the league in wins over the last decade as well.

You are delusional, and you will miss this era of Heat basketball that you are trashing when it is truly cooked.

[twix2500]

Get Anthony Davis

What’s your offer?

Whatever they want outside of Herro and Bam.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Are they actual lotto balls? Do they have our team logo printed on them if so? If so, the amount of ink on our balls would have been different than Dallas, resulting in different weights and imperfections on the thin membrane. It also would have made the 12th position be Dallas rather than Chicago, and the same changes to that ball would have an effect. Depending on whether Chicago or Atlanta got through, similar changes to balls 13 and 14 would occur. If this is your classic ball mechanism like an old school lottery, then all these differences in the balls would put out a different outcome. It is also possible they have balls for all 30 teams and pull them out alphabetically meaning the order of how they loaded them in is different.

This concludes my TED talk. We would not have won the lotto.

Don't worry Ersnt and Young who's hired by the NBA themselves are a bastion of credibility and would never listen to the people who are paying for there services. Absolutely never behind closed doors or with handpicked people they let in to make sure they tell the masses all is well.