The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 1

[thamadkant]

Would you guys trade Durant for Tatum- even if he tore his Achilles? I would in a heartbeat and see if he recovers. I'll roll the dice

Yes

A post Achilles injury Tatum is better than KD 2-3 years down the track

Why is it even a question since they are about 7 years apart. Achilles tears are horrible but Tatum is young enough to recover from most of it before he's 30... 2 years off basketball and 1 year of getting his game back so 3 years time he should be back to 90% of his old self since he's young.

[Slim Charless]

Would you guys trade Durant for Tatum- even if he tore his Achilles? I would in a heartbeat and see if he recovers. I'll roll the dice

Yes

A post Achilles injury Tatum is better than KD 2-3 years down the track

Why is it even a question since they are about 7 years apart. Achilles tears are horrible but Tatum is young enough to recover from most of it before he's 30... 2 years off basketball and 1 year of getting his game back so 3 years time he should be back to 90% of his old self since he's young.

Well a couple reasons, remember we can't tank. So that means next year with no Tatum is basically the Booker and Beal show. As bad as we were, Durant won us a bunch of games. So our record would be worse next year since Tatum is gone.

Plus the fact that he might not not be the same guy ever again and he just signed a 55/yr deal over the next 6 years.

That said, I'll still do it.

[Slim Charless]

Would anyone here do Booker for Achilles Tatum?

[Calvin Klein]

Would anyone here do Booker for Achilles Tatum?

no. And I don't think the Celtics will trade Tatum.

[sunsbum]

I haven’t read anything yet about the draft lottery, I just wanted to chime in and say how obviously fixed the league is. I mean I knew it with the Luka trade but this **** is like American politics. It’s all WWF and they ain’t even trying to hide it. Feels like nothing is real in this world anymore. Dark take but the truth.

[BobbieL]

Yes

A post Achilles injury Tatum is better than KD 2-3 years down the track

Why is it even a question since they are about 7 years apart. Achilles tears are horrible but Tatum is young enough to recover from most of it before he's 30... 2 years off basketball and 1 year of getting his game back so 3 years time he should be back to 90% of his old self since he's young.

Well a couple reasons, remember we can't tank. So that means next year with no Tatum is basically the Booker and Beal show. As bad as we were, Durant won us a bunch of games. So our record would be worse next year since Tatum is gone.

Plus the fact that he might not not be the same guy ever again and he just signed a 55/yr deal over the next 6 years.

That said, I'll still do it.

The record has got worse every year with Durant.

[King4Day]

Would anyone here do Booker for Achilles Tatum?

no. And I don't think the Celtics will trade Tatum.

I assume it's hypothetical because Boston would be mental to give up on Tatum now. Especially for KD. I'd take Tatum as is over anyone on the Suns roster outside of MAYBE Booker. And that's only because Tatum just (likely) suffered the achilles

Also, KD is proof you can still be elite after an injury like that.

[Rebound Mound]

I do not like to talk about other team's affairs, but I believe this is different.
The Flagg present by Silver to the Mavs for accepting sending Doncic to a bigger market once LBJ is close to retirement so the league gets its big amount of money now that big globalist companies are involved in the business is a poisoned one, as Flagg does not meet the timeline of AD, Kyrie, Mitchell, etc. Only Lively and other players could be there when Flagg is mature enough to be a star, if he is a star someday, because he seems more like a 7/10 in everything and not a superstar.

Probably some of the companies that have now the TV rights for the league had something to say to the Mavs to force them to move Doncic and Flagg is the consolation prize. If not that, something really dark has been done behind the scenes...

Well, for us, could it be acceptable by the Mavs to trade Flagg, Robinson and Washington, for example, for KD and Booker or something like that.
Hey, ended up with a roster with Beal, Robinson, Washington, Flagg does not sound bad...

[KdoubleDees23]

Mavs aren't trading Cooper Flagg! This is ridiculous. He will be mentored and work alongside AD . Flagg is a great defender, can create own shot, and is a good shooter. If Mavs run

Kyrie
Naji Marshall / PJ Washington
Flagg
AD
Lively & Gafford

that is a solid team. They have a 2-3 year window, then build around Flagg! They will be fine.

Don't do what the suns do and try to get KD or Giannis there for Flagg, it will just cripple you for the next 5-10 years.

[KdoubleDees23]

The teams I can see making a trade for KD or Giannis include Houston, Spurs, Thunder, Cavs, TWolves, Warriors for a win now.

[BobbieL]

The teams I can see making a trade for KD or Giannis include Houston, Spurs, Thunder, Cavs, TWolves, Warriors for a win now.

If the WArriors flame out - and yes the Curry injury was huge - but they have a timeline

Cavs problem is they are a second apron team

Houston - I think for the right price - not an overpay

Spurs - I think they are getting Giannis

Suns are just going to need to be patient. The phrase "step back" a year might not be popular but its pragmatic

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Ghost of Kleine]

The Rockets could very likely take the 10th pick now and attach it in a trade for KD as they'll absolutely not have enough assets to bid for Giannis in comparison to teams like OKC, or San Antonio or possibly even Brooklyn ( sheer picks).

So depending upon the players portion of the package, I'd amenably agree to a deal of something like:
KD for Brooks/ Sheppard/ Smith Jr or Eason/ Whitmore/ 10th pick.
OR
KD for J Green/ Smith Jr/ Landale/ Whitmore/ PHX 25' 1st/ PHX 27' 1st.

** But then look to trade Sheppard and/ or J Green elsewhere for other players and picks in addition to our Houston- KD package. I'd also look to trade back in the draft with either Brooklyn or Orlando to acquire some additional picks in this draft, and look to attach one of our CLE 1sts (least favorable of) to Allen in a trade with Charlotte for M Williams and the two 2nds (23rd and 34th picks) to target very specific positional cost controlled talent.

- I might package Sheppard and O'neale to Washington for Marcus Smart/ 40th pick/ 26' 2nd.

- J Green/ CLE 1st to Brooklyn for C Johnson.
OR
J Green/ Allen to Orlando for Isaac/ KCP/ Bidatze / Denver 26' or 28' 1st.

[Ghost of Kleine]

The Cavs will never be a trade partner while Ishbia and Gilbert own their respective franchises. Both are bitter competitive rivals! People need to understand this and stop suggesting they'd be possible trade partners as they both vehemently despise each other. It'll just never happen!

[KdoubleDees23]

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If we can somehow get

FVV , Jabari Smith Jr , whitmore And #10 for KD I would take that to balance our roster and add depth

FVV back up Walter Clayton Jr
Booker / Allen
Whitmore / O'Neale
Jabari smith jr / Dunn
Richards / Khaman Maluach or Derrick Queen or OSO)

Get a big with #10 (Khaman Maluach or Derrick Queen) and Walter Clayton Jr to back up FVV with our pick!

[sunsfan1o1]

None of this matters anymore. Adam Silver is letting us all know the NBA is rigged.
Whoever they want to win will win.
You can trade as much as you want. Be as good as you want. In the end Silver will put who he wants in the finals.

[Rebound Mound]

Mavs aren't trading Cooper Flagg! This is ridiculous. He will be mentored and work alongside AD . Flagg is a great defender, can create own shot, and is a good shooter. If Mavs run

Kyrie
Naji Marshall / PJ Washington
Flagg
AD
Lively & Gafford

that is a solid team. They have a 2-3 year window, then build around Flagg! They will be fine.

Don't do what the suns do and try to get KD or Giannis there for Flagg, it will just cripple you for the next 5-10 years.

They could be a team among the 3/4 best teams in the legue, but not good enough to win the tittle. Then they could be not good enough again with Flagg one AD is gone or old.
I do not think the starting 5 you mentioned is better than the one that can be proposed by other teams, although based on defense and a slow pace, they could succeed, although Flagg is no LBJ and it will take 3 years to know the ropes of the league. By then, AD and Kyrie are not near their current level by a lot.

[sunsfan1o1]

And I actually thought all season Suns were not getting calls and other teams were allowed to play extremely physical and hack us when we could barely touch them on defense.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Silver tried to make an example of us for trading for stars and going over 2nd apron. He sent us packing early told refs to swallow their whistle. So he takes away our draft picks and tries to make us KD to a big market team again while telling the rest of the league not to do what Suns did.
There’s really no point in watching the NBA if he’s gonna be so obvious about it.

[sunsfan1o1]

It’s gonna be Knicks vs Thunder.
NY should’ve lost to the Pistons. Refs are clearly helping them in every series.
Silver will let the Knicks have their rematch with Pacers.
He needs a big market team to keep the playoffs relevant so he’s gonna let them keep winning.
He will reward the Thunder for building through the draft and for losing all their stars.
OKC will win. Knicks are just here for viewership.

[BobbieL]

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If we can somehow get

FVV , Jabari Smith Jr , whitmore And #10 for KD I would take that to balance our roster and add depth

FVV back up Walter Clayton Jr
Booker / Allen
Whitmore / O'Neale
Jabari smith jr / Dunn
Richards / Khaman Maluach or Derrick Queen or OSO)

Get a big with #10 (Khaman Maluach or Derrick Queen) and Walter Clayton Jr to back up FVV with our pick!

I think getting Whitmore will be a bit much - but I can totally see FVV, Jabari and the 10th pick

somehow if can include Jock for O'Neale - that would be awesome