Salute the Flagg! Mavs win the lottery!

[arkuo]

My biggest fear is that Flagg is from Duke. They have a history of draft busts:

Shelden Williams, F — 2006 NBA Draft, 5th overall to Hawks
Jahlil Okafor, C — 2015 NBA Draft, 3rd overall to 76ers
Jabari Parker, F — 2014 NBA Draft, 2nd overall to Bucks
Trajan Langdon, G — 1999 NBA Draft, 11th overall to Cavaliers
Nolan Smith, G — 2011 NBA Draft, 21st overall to Trail Blazers
Tate Armstrong, G — 1977 NBA Draft, 13th overall to Bulls
William Avery, G — 1999 NBA Draft, 14th overall to Timberwolves
Cherokee Parks, F — 1995 NBA Draft, 12th overall to Mavericks
Danny Ferry, F — 1989 NBA Draft, 2nd overall to Clippers
Justise Winslow, F — 2015 NBA Draft, 10th overall to Heat
Christian Laettner, C - 1992 NBA Draft, 3rd overall to Timberwolves
Bobby Hurley, G - 1993 NBA Draft, 7th overall to Kings
Marvin Bagley III, C - 2018 NBA Draft, 2nd overall to Kings

Flagg clears every single one IMO.

[GermanFan120]

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[Mr B]

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Jay Williams is an idiot.

[arkuo]

I get what Jay Williams is saying. But the profits are the same. Keep Flagg on a rookie scale deal.

No one knows what Giannis will want to do in 2 years when his deal is up. Flagg on a rookie deal allows you to even get KD with PJ, Gaff etc if you wanted to. Not saying it should be done. But I'm just saying if you wanted to.

[Archx]

I get what Jay Williams is saying. But the profits are the same. Keep Flagg on a rookie scale deal.

No one knows what Giannis will want to do in 2 years when his deal is up. Flagg on a rookie deal allows you to even get KD with PJ, Gaff etc if you wanted to. Not saying it should be done. But I'm just saying if you wanted to.

Agreed. Jay has a good point to be honest. Nico made all the moves with the "win now" mentality. You are not in the win now situation with Flagg. I mean, sure you can simply drag him along and try to develop him but 18yo/19yo will not have the same production or knowledge or even be remotely as good as someone like Giannis.

But also the other side of the story. If you do want to keep Flagg, what do you do with others that you were getting when you were building around Doncic? PJ/Naji/Christie/Klay/Gafford... How do these guys come into picture now? Who is steering the ship with Kyrie out? How do you overlap positions with AD/PJ/Flagg.... Does it make sense trading someone like PJ who's been insanely valuable?

So, on the surface, sounds great problems to have but in reality, you have 2 options. Soft rebuild or all in and get the ring. If you go after the ring, i don't know how Flagg can help with that. He's not someone like Luka or Wemby who came straight from much difficult leagues. Both of those guys also got drafted into **** teams, Mavs right now with the right moves, are in the position to chase the ring.

[arkuo]

I get what Jay Williams is saying. But the profits are the same. Keep Flagg on a rookie scale deal.

No one knows what Giannis will want to do in 2 years when his deal is up. Flagg on a rookie deal allows you to even get KD with PJ, Gaff etc if you wanted to. Not saying it should be done. But I'm just saying if you wanted to.

Agreed. Jay has a good point to be honest. Nico made all the moves with the "win now" mentality. You are not in the win now situation with Flagg. I mean, sure you can simply drag him along and try to develop him but 18yo/19yo will not have the same production or knowledge or even be remotely as good as someone like Giannis.

But also the other side of the story. If you do want to keep Flagg, what do you do with others that you were getting when you were building around Doncic? PJ/Naji/Christie/Klay/Gafford... How do these guys come into picture now? Who is steering the ship with Kyrie out? How do you overlap positions with AD/PJ/Flagg.... Does it make sense trading someone like PJ who's been insanely valuable?

So, on the surface, sounds great problems to have but in reality, you have 2 options. Soft rebuild or all in and get the ring. If you go after the ring, i don't know how Flagg can help with that. He's not someone like Luka or Wemby who came straight from much difficult leagues. Both of those guys also got drafted into **** teams, Mavs right now with the right moves, are in the position to chase the ring.

Flagg right now is responsible for season ticket holders calling back one by one. As it is he can be the 3rd cost controlled star on a team trying to win one. In as much as I want Giannis, he can bolt in 2 years after the trade. Two paths to take, I think the safe bet is just to keep Flagg. Nico mentioned he didn't expect this type of reaction to profits dropping due to the Luka trade. Well, profits will now get back up with Flagg alone. I don't see him making the same mistake there.

[Archx]

I get what Jay Williams is saying. But the profits are the same. Keep Flagg on a rookie scale deal.

No one knows what Giannis will want to do in 2 years when his deal is up. Flagg on a rookie deal allows you to even get KD with PJ, Gaff etc if you wanted to. Not saying it should be done. But I'm just saying if you wanted to.

Agreed. Jay has a good point to be honest. Nico made all the moves with the "win now" mentality. You are not in the win now situation with Flagg. I mean, sure you can simply drag him along and try to develop him but 18yo/19yo will not have the same production or knowledge or even be remotely as good as someone like Giannis.

But also the other side of the story. If you do want to keep Flagg, what do you do with others that you were getting when you were building around Doncic? PJ/Naji/Christie/Klay/Gafford... How do these guys come into picture now? Who is steering the ship with Kyrie out? How do you overlap positions with AD/PJ/Flagg.... Does it make sense trading someone like PJ who's been insanely valuable?

So, on the surface, sounds great problems to have but in reality, you have 2 options. Soft rebuild or all in and get the ring. If you go after the ring, i don't know how Flagg can help with that. He's not someone like Luka or Wemby who came straight from much difficult leagues. Both of those guys also got drafted into **** teams, Mavs right now with the right moves, are in the position to chase the ring.

Flagg right now is responsible for season ticket holders calling back one by one. As it is he can be the 3rd cost controlled star on a team trying to win one. In as much as I want Giannis, he can bolt in 2 years after the trade. Two paths to take, I think the safe bet is just to keep Flagg. Nico mentioned he didn't expect this type of reaction to profits dropping due to the Luka trade. Well, profits will now get back up with Flagg alone. I don't see him making the same mistake there.

It's actually funny watching Mavs fans reaction all over the internet. They're both pissed and happy. Fans from other teams are saying they haven't seen anything like this before.

Yea keeping Flagg is the most obvious and reasonable choice to make but then if Nico was smart, he would go in to a soft rebuild and try to win maybe in a year or two. I'm afraid he'll do some stupid **** and Mavs will have a mess of a roster for the next 5 years and we'll be in the same boat as we were after the 2018 draft.

[daoneandonly]

I get what Jay Williams is saying. But the profits are the same. Keep Flagg on a rookie scale deal.

No one knows what Giannis will want to do in 2 years when his deal is up. Flagg on a rookie deal allows you to even get KD with PJ, Gaff etc if you wanted to. Not saying it should be done. But I'm just saying if you wanted to.

Agreed. Jay has a good point to be honest. Nico made all the moves with the "win now" mentality. You are not in the win now situation with Flagg. I mean, sure you can simply drag him along and try to develop him but 18yo/19yo will not have the same production or knowledge or even be remotely as good as someone like Giannis.

But also the other side of the story. If you do want to keep Flagg, what do you do with others that you were getting when you were building around Doncic? PJ/Naji/Christie/Klay/Gafford... How do these guys come into picture now? Who is steering the ship with Kyrie out? How do you overlap positions with AD/PJ/Flagg.... Does it make sense trading someone like PJ who's been insanely valuable?

So, on the surface, sounds great problems to have but in reality, you have 2 options. Soft rebuild or all in and get the ring. If you go after the ring, i don't know how Flagg can help with that. He's not someone like Luka or Wemby who came straight from much difficult leagues. Both of those guys also got drafted into **** teams, Mavs right now with the right moves, are in the position to chase the ring.

My preference is fire Nico & Kidd, trade AD for the ebst package you can get, tell Klay to kick rocks, and build around Flagg/Lively. Not going to happen, but dream scenario.

But this approach ahs been done. San Antonio had their core aging guys and a young rookie named Kawhi and brought him along, it worked then

[arkuo]

Agreed. Jay has a good point to be honest. Nico made all the moves with the "win now" mentality. You are not in the win now situation with Flagg. I mean, sure you can simply drag him along and try to develop him but 18yo/19yo will not have the same production or knowledge or even be remotely as good as someone like Giannis.

But also the other side of the story. If you do want to keep Flagg, what do you do with others that you were getting when you were building around Doncic? PJ/Naji/Christie/Klay/Gafford... How do these guys come into picture now? Who is steering the ship with Kyrie out? How do you overlap positions with AD/PJ/Flagg.... Does it make sense trading someone like PJ who's been insanely valuable?

So, on the surface, sounds great problems to have but in reality, you have 2 options. Soft rebuild or all in and get the ring. If you go after the ring, i don't know how Flagg can help with that. He's not someone like Luka or Wemby who came straight from much difficult leagues. Both of those guys also got drafted into **** teams, Mavs right now with the right moves, are in the position to chase the ring.

Flagg right now is responsible for season ticket holders calling back one by one. As it is he can be the 3rd cost controlled star on a team trying to win one. In as much as I want Giannis, he can bolt in 2 years after the trade. Two paths to take, I think the safe bet is just to keep Flagg. Nico mentioned he didn't expect this type of reaction to profits dropping due to the Luka trade. Well, profits will now get back up with Flagg alone. I don't see him making the same mistake there.

It's actually funny watching Mavs fans reaction all over the internet. They're both pissed and happy. Fans from other teams are saying they haven't seen anything like this before.

Yea keeping Flagg is the most obvious and reasonable choice to make but then if Nico was smart, he would go in to a soft rebuild and try to win maybe in a year or two. I'm afraid he'll do some stupid **** and Mavs will have a mess of a roster for the next 5 years and we'll be in the same boat as we were after the 2018 draft.

There are reports saying Cuban called Patrick Dumont to explain what had just happened and they were screaming like teenage girls. This tells me Dumont is starting to listen to Cuban again. If Cuban is consulted I do not think he's sending Flagg away given what's at stake. Other teams would love to get Flagg though.

[Archx]

ESPN reporting that Mavs plan to draft Flagg and won't do a trade.

And this is an irony at its best.

Sources told ESPN that Patrick Dumont, who just finished his first year as the Mavs' governor, considers the opportunity to be in position to draft a generational talent like Flagg a "gift."

"I don't know who we're going to take, but should we take him, I think his résumé is pretty strong," Mavs CEO Rick Welts said Tuesday. "Every time he's put in a situation that everyone wondered if he could succeed, he's succeeded and then some."

Someone should tell these clowns that they already had a player like that.

And even Kyrie knows it was rigged.

16 times, the Dallas Mavericks have entered the NBA Draft Lottery and 16 times they have either stayed the exact same position or fallen in the draft.

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[Mr B]

ESPN reporting that Mavs plan to draft Flagg and won't do a trade.

And this is an irony at its best.

Sources told ESPN that Patrick Dumont, who just finished his first year as the Mavs' governor, considers the opportunity to be in position to draft a generational talent like Flagg a "gift."

"I don't know who we're going to take, but should we take him, I think his résumé is pretty strong," Mavs CEO Rick Welts said Tuesday. "Every time he's put in a situation that everyone wondered if he could succeed, he's succeeded and then some."

Someone should tell these clowns that they already had a player like that.

And even Kyrie knows it was rigged.

16 times, the Dallas Mavericks have entered the NBA Draft Lottery and 16 times they have either stayed the exact same position or fallen in the draft.

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As long as it’s rigged in our favor, this time.

[Mr B]

I really think Giannis is going to end up in San Antonio and KD is going to end up in Houston or OKC. Wherever he doesn’t go is where Booker ends up.

Mavs should just draft Cooper Flagg look for a smaller deal to acquire a PG. One of Colin Sexton, Coby White, or Josh Giddey. I would love to get one of the Spurs young PG’s (assuming they draft Harper) but that’s not likely.

Then I would look to move PJ and try to acquire a defensive guard like Desmond Bane or Marcus Smart.

[Maverick41]

Nope. Just trade AD+ for #2 imho.

Yup. Heck even Phillys #3 or CHA's #4, I'd offer AD for.

AD is a great player but landing Flagg changes things. I'd just rather rebuild around Flagg and get value for AD before it's too late.

Would you do AD for #3 and PG13?

I would. That's the trade i was thinking actually.

A Flagg + VJ + Lively core would be very interesting and hard not to root for. All 3 guys are 2 way players that work their butts off.

[Apz]

U think nico can adnut he was wrobg and keep flagg? Not the vibe i get from him

[Mr B]

U think nico can adnut he was wrobg and keep flagg? Not the vibe i get from him

I get the vibe from Patrick Dumont that he doesn’t not want to be embarrassed like he was before. I don’t see him agreeing to trading Cooper Flagg.

[Teffer10]

U think nico can adnut he was wrobg and keep flagg? Not the vibe i get from him

Agree.
I dont think Nico is even thinking about drafting Flagg.
Nico is very shortsighted and Flagg doesnt fit for Nico's (the narcissist) personal benefit so his jubilant behavior has more to do with the pick being an enormous trade chip.

Nico needs to be fired immediately.

[Dirk2Doncic]

So it's the first time I'm reading stuff about Flagg. People say his defense is better than his offense. Wth. So we need a scorer still.

Defense is so freaking overrated in this new NBA. It's absolutely hilarious how many people fall for this narrative. Look at the all mighty 2 way players in Tatum and SGA. How are they struggling? Even though they have insane team behind them, they'll still struggle. If you have an absolute elite offensive player, you go for that.

Draft experts say, Flagg might not even be your best nr1 team option but he could reach elite nr2 option. But he's obviously young, so anything can happen.

Defense wins championships is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my sports life. It's coach speak. If you take it literally you are a moron.

Mavericks still have an utter moron/dirtbag at GM that MARK CUBAN in his own hubris and stupidity brought to that franchise.

Luka got his team to the finals at 25 putting up HISTORIC numbers in the process.

Long long long long long long long way to go for Flagg. He may or may not ever get there.

[Michaellam1987]

Get a right to draft a very good, extremely young, 2 way player is very rare. We got to stand firm, and keep Flagg. This guarantee the usage of him for at least 7-8 years, before any potential he wants out.

[41Dirk41]

Get a right to draft a very good, extremely young, 2 way player is very rare. We got to stand firm, and keep Flagg. This guarantee the usage of him for at least 7-8 years, before any potential he wants out.

Or another collusion

[Green Hornet]

Cooper Flagg being handed to the Mavs on a silver platter is not something even Speilberg could've came up with. It will be Nico Harrison's redemption season tour soon and how he assembles this final Mavs team next season with Cooper freakin Flagg on it is still really wild to process.