Better Player Right Now: Wemby or Tatum
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Better Player Right Now: Wemby or Tatum
Not MOVING FORWARD
Right now today.
Who is a better player?
Right now today.
Who is a better player?
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Well Wemby is out with blood clots today so this really isn't much of a contest...
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Give me Wemby with a blood clot
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Cmon man, all the things we give Tatum crap for — shot selection, inconsistency — Wemby is even worse at.
And while Tatum isn’t a DOY caliber defender, he is elite there so the gap isn’t huge.
This is clearly Tatum. Better scorer, better passer, has a playoff resume.
And while Tatum isn’t a DOY caliber defender, he is elite there so the gap isn’t huge.
This is clearly Tatum. Better scorer, better passer, has a playoff resume.
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MrGoat wrote:Well Wemby is out with blood clots today so this really isn't much of a contest...
You missed when healthy
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No one know what he looks like right now today because he has been sidelined with blood clots for months.
I would probably call January/February 2025 Wembanyama a better player than Tatum, with the note that we have yet to see him in the postseason and that I would generally trust Tatum to be more accustomed to the different rhythms of the NBA postseason.
I would probably call January/February 2025 Wembanyama a better player than Tatum, with the note that we have yet to see him in the postseason and that I would generally trust Tatum to be more accustomed to the different rhythms of the NBA postseason.
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I think right now, it's still Tatum.
Wemby is very inconsistent on the offensive end. Like Tatum, he has a sky-high 3PAr, taking 8.8 3s for every 9.9 2s, or about 47% of his total volume. That, especially with his considerably lower playmaking value and despite his superior efficiency, leaves his impact a little limp on that end. It's wild that he can shoot 35% on that volume (and closer to 37% for 3 straight months), and promising in its way, but he could be considerably more consistent bombing from the elbow a little more. We'll see how next year plays out for him.
But right now, Tatum still provides more north-south pressure and a lot more playmaking, and that helps overcome the difference in defense. Wemby isn't a take-over offensive player any more than Tatum, and he doesn't have a postseason career yet for the sake of comparison, so we don't know what he'll look like in that environment. I figure he just needs health, and time to show what he can and cannot do. No reason to anoint him too quickly. Tatum is still a very good player, postseason struggles notwithstanding.
Wemby is very inconsistent on the offensive end. Like Tatum, he has a sky-high 3PAr, taking 8.8 3s for every 9.9 2s, or about 47% of his total volume. That, especially with his considerably lower playmaking value and despite his superior efficiency, leaves his impact a little limp on that end. It's wild that he can shoot 35% on that volume (and closer to 37% for 3 straight months), and promising in its way, but he could be considerably more consistent bombing from the elbow a little more. We'll see how next year plays out for him.
But right now, Tatum still provides more north-south pressure and a lot more playmaking, and that helps overcome the difference in defense. Wemby isn't a take-over offensive player any more than Tatum, and he doesn't have a postseason career yet for the sake of comparison, so we don't know what he'll look like in that environment. I figure he just needs health, and time to show what he can and cannot do. No reason to anoint him too quickly. Tatum is still a very good player, postseason struggles notwithstanding.
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Wemby is the best player in basketball arguably already. at least top 4-5. .. if you put him on Boston, they would have breezed through the post season to a repeat.. Wemby just plays on a young team so he gets all the defensive focus. . His offensive efficiency would be sky high if he was on a contender
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Wemby is a top talent but he is likely not there yet as a cornerstone player.
As of now are you taking Wemby over Tatum on your squad for a game 7, playoff run, or over a season
As of now are you taking Wemby over Tatum on your squad for a game 7, playoff run, or over a season
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The physicality of these playoffs has affected nearly every star player negatively, and Wemby would be no different—especially with his slight frame, high three-point attempt rate, and inexperience. Give me Tatum at the moment.
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Wemby was the 3rd best player in the league when he got hurt and Tatum hasn't done anything this playoffs to make me think he was undervalued during the regular season.
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iggymcfrack wrote:Wemby was the 3rd best player in the league when he got hurt and Tatum hasn't done anything this playoffs to make me think he was undervalued during the regular season.
3rd im guessing behind Jokic and Shai?
Which mean ahead of Giannis
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mdonnelly1989 wrote:iggymcfrack wrote:Wemby was the 3rd best player in the league when he got hurt and Tatum hasn't done anything this playoffs to make me think he was undervalued during the regular season.
3rd im guessing behind Jokic and Shai?
Which mean ahead of Giannis
Yes, exactly. I felt like Wemby's defense was almost as valuable as Giannis' offense, close enough to be debatable at least while Giannis' defensive impact wasn't particularly close to Wemby's value on offense.
Now Giannis finished the year pretty strong and had a good individual playoffs so maybe if Wemby was healthy this season, he wouldn't have actually finished as a top 3 player, but I'd definitely take him ahead of Tatum and I'd definitely take him over Giannis for next year.
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Probably the biggest non-Spurs Wemby fan out there, but it’s Tatum - regardless of what the impact metrics say.
There just isn’t a playoff proof of concept for Vic yet
There just isn’t a playoff proof of concept for Vic yet
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rk2023 wrote:Probably the biggest non-Spurs Wemby fan out there, but it’s Tatum - regardless of what the impact metrics say.
There just isn’t a playoff proof of concept for Vic yet
I tend to agree for now(this season) though if you swap Wemby out to the Celtics maybe they would actually be better. No way of really knowing unless we saw it play out but he was out for this season anyhow.
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MrGoat wrote:Well Wemby is out with blood clots today so this really isn't much of a contest...
Well... huh...
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Jaivl wrote:MrGoat wrote:Well Wemby is out with blood clots today so this really isn't much of a contest...
Well... huh...
Yeah.. this one aged like... umm...
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MrGoat wrote:Jaivl wrote:MrGoat wrote:Well Wemby is out with blood clots today so this really isn't much of a contest...
Well... huh...
Yeah.. this one aged like... umm...
You cursed him, Goat.
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MrGoat wrote:Well Wemby is out with blood clots today so this really isn't much of a contest...
Consider MrJinx
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durantbird wrote:MrGoat wrote:Well Wemby is out with blood clots today so this really isn't much of a contest...
Consider MrJinx
I... probably shouldn't respond to this then
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