Packers News, Transactions, Trade Talk - Watson 1 Year Extension Through 2026

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Jason Wilde reporting in here that Jenkins is staying away from OTAs because he wants a new contract

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Looking like Commanders at Lambeau on Xmas day. Nothing official yet.

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How much is two snaps worth to an NFL player? For Green Bay Packers guard Sean Rhyan, it's more than $2 million.

Had he been on the field for two additional plays at any point in his first three NFL seasons (2022-24), Rhyan would have qualified for the proven performance escalator. That would have meant his 2025 base salary would have jumped to $3.406 million rather than the $1,363,571 he will earn under his original rookie deal.

That's a difference of $2,042,429 -- all because he came up two snaps short of hitting the 35% mark called for in Article 7, Section 4 of the NFL's collective bargaining agreement.

It states that if a player selected in Rounds 3-7 (Rhyan was a third-round pick in 2022) "participated in a minimum of 35% of his Club's offensive or defensive plays in any two of his first three regular season or participated in a 'cumulative average' of at least 35% of his Club's offensive or defensive plays over his first three regular seasons" then he would qualify for the raise, which is essentially equal to what a restricted free agent tender would be the upcoming season. Here's how Rhyan missed out:

• In his rookie season, he appeared in only one game but did not play a single snap on offense. He played one snap of special teams, which is not used in the calculation. According to data from the NFL Players Association and the league, which are used to calculate the percentages, the Packers had 1,094 offensive plays.

• In 2023, he played 183 snaps combined at right guard and left guard in a backup role out a possible 1,096 plays (16.7%).

• Last season, when he became a starter for the first time, he played 961 of a possible 1,082 offensive snaps (88.8%). During the first half of the season, Ryan split snaps with 2024 first-round pick Jordan Morgan. However, after Morgan was lost for the season due to a shoulder injury following Week 9, Rhyan played full time -- except for eight snaps in the second quarter of the Week 14 game at Detroit. He left the game after a collision with Detroit Lions linebacker Kwon Alexander but returned to finish the game.

• In all, it meant Ryan played in 1,144 of a possible 3,272 offensive snaps for the Packers over the past three seasons -- or 34.952% of the plays from 2022-24. At least he didn't miss by one snap. An additional play would have only gotten Ryan to 34.983%.

Rhyan's agent, Cameron Foster, said he believed Ryan had reached the 35% mark because of published snap counts online. For example, according to Pro Football Reference's snap counts, which are unofficial and not used by the NFL or the NFLPA, Rhyan would have qualified. Its count had Rhyan playing 1,146 of a possible 3,272 snaps (35.003%).

"[We had] him at 35% of snaps exactly," Foster told ESPN. "However, the NFL and NFLPA both had him just under. So, per the Packers they are not giving him the escalator. We are pretty disappointed about it for sure."

A source with knowledge of NFL contracts said some contracts contain specific language about not rounding up when it comes to statistical marks for incentives or escalators. The Packers couldn't just give Rhyan the raise even if they wanted to. They would have to extend his contract in order to change his 2025 pay, which also would have salary cap implications and also could impact future extensions should they decide to retain him behind this season.

Rhyan's original rookie contract was a four-year, $5.12 million deal that included a $905,712 signing bonus. However, he lost out on $235,000 of his base salary as a rookie because he was suspended for six games after being found in violation of the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing substances.

In March, Rhyan was awarded an additional $697,006 in additional compensation through the NFL's performance-based pay program. That was the third-highest payout on the team behind left tackle Rasheed Walker's $925,612 and right tackle Zach Tom's $849,141. Each team had a pool of $14.128 million that is distributed based on playing time and salary levels. It rewards players with lower salaries who play significant roles on the team.

Rhyan is expected to compete for a starting job again this season at right guard. He could face competition from Morgan, who also is expected to battle Walker at left tackle.

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Unlike Doubs, I guess Reed might have a legit gripe based on how much his targets cratered in the 2nd half of the season (17 total in the last 5-games). Awful lot of inflated egos in the WR room right now though. Reed is pretty much the only dude I'd hand out an extension today. Watson, Wicks, and Doubs can learn to take the high road or they can take a hike,

[MKE_Hodag22]

Unlike Doubs, I guess Reed might have a legit gripe based on how much his targets cratered in the 2nd half of the season (17 total in the last 5-games). Awful lot of inflated egos in the WR room right now though. Reed is pretty much the only dude I'd hand out an extension today. Watson, Wicks, and Doubs can learn to take the high road or they can take a hike,

IF/when Watson is able to return and if healthy -- would make like so much easier for Golden and Reed.

Reed/Golden/Watson/Williams/Wicks/Hardmon all offer you something different .. but having that over the top speed opens up a heck of a lot underneath for guys like reed/wicks to feast and for golden to get 1 on 1.

[nagawicka]

Unlike Doubs, I guess Reed might have a legit gripe based on how much his targets cratered in the 2nd half of the season (17 total in the last 5-games). Awful lot of inflated egos in the WR room right now though. Reed is pretty much the only dude I'd hand out an extension today. Watson, Wicks, and Doubs can learn to take the high road or they can take a hike,

Has anyone heard even a single peep from the rest of the WRs in the room? Any of them. Aside from Christian Watson's Dad? From those listed here or their agents. Post up any real word for all of us, written down reports with two sources quoted on the record. Packers don't talk about players' situation / status *to* the media, and all of us should be grateful for that. Players' taking the same discreet stance and not litigating through the media are gonna be better off, and all of should be grateful for that too. No reports that any of our current stable of WRs are taking the Javon Walker route into [Ted Thompson's] trading plans surfaced in CheeseLand; because if they had, you know

[Profound23]

Just give Reed an extension now, that's what he is looking for. I don't want to trade him, fine with trading Doubs

[Treebeard]

I hope Wicks takes a step ahead and has a solid season from start to finish

[RRyder823]

Unlike Doubs, I guess Reed might have a legit gripe based on how much his targets cratered in the 2nd half of the season (17 total in the last 5-games). Awful lot of inflated egos in the WR room right now though. Reed is pretty much the only dude I'd hand out an extension today. Watson, Wicks, and Doubs can learn to take the high road or they can take a hike,

Has anyone heard even a single peep from the rest of the WRs in the room? Any of them. Aside from Christian Watson's Dad? From those listed here or their agents. Post up any real word for all of us, written down reports with two sources quoted on the record. Packers don't talk about players' situation / status *to* the media, and all of us should be grateful for that. Players' taking the same discreet stance and not litigating through the media are gonna be better off, and all of should be grateful for that too. No reports that any of our current stable of WRs are taking the Javon Walker route into [Ted Thompson's] trading plans surfaced in CheeseLand; because if they had, you know

Think theres a chance that maybe that has a lil more to do with none of the WRs on the roster even being in the same stratosphere as Walker was when he did that? Just maybe?

Not really news in any case for a WR to be a lil bit of a diva. I'd explore trade options after this season but that has little to nothing to do with any kind of a diva attitude he may or may not have and everything to do with not wanting to use the amount of cap it takes to sign these WRs.



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[MickeyDavis]

Just give Reed an extension now, that's what he is looking for. I don't want to trade him, fine with trading Doubs

He can't be extended until after this season.

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Just give Reed an extension now, that's what he is looking for. I don't want to trade him, fine with trading Doubs

He's not extension eligible until next offseason

[crkone]

I need to see the WRs not get bottled up again in man coverage before I extend any of them.

[Isocleas2]

I need to see the WRs not get bottled up again in man coverage before I extend any of them.

Yeah I have zero interest in giving any Packers wide receiver assurances or extensions at this point. The positioned is stacked, let the competition bring out the best of them and at the end of the year sign/extend the ones who stepped up their play. I think Doubs will be allowed to sign elsewhere, Watson brought back on a 1-2 year prove it deal and Reed given a contract extension. Wicks it could go any direction, if he figures out his drops he could play well and get an extension. If he doesn't figure it out he gets traded or allowed to play out his rookie contract and signs elsewhere.

The only guy on offense I'd possibly extend right now is Jenkins.

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Packers home vs Lions Week 1

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Packers Commanders at Lambeau, week 2 on Thursday Night football

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No Thanksgiving game for the Packers this year

Edit: Jordan Schulz deleted the tweet about the Vikings on Thanksgiving. It's Lions/Vikings on Christmas instead

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Tough start but both at home. Washington game is in my package. I had heard Washington was going to be Xmas day but guess not.

[RRyder823]

I need to see the WRs not get bottled up again in man coverage before I extend any of them.

Yeah I have zero interest in giving any Packers wide receiver assurances or extensions at this point. The positioned is stacked, let the competition bring out the best of them and at the end of the year sign/extend the ones who stepped up their play. I think Doubs will be allowed to sign elsewhere, Watson brought back on a 1-2 year prove it deal and Reed given a contract extension. Wicks it could go any direction, if he figures out his drops he could play well and get an extension. If he doesn't figure it out he gets traded or allowed to play out his rookie contract and signs elsewhere.

The only guy on offense I'd possibly extend right now is Jenkins.

Love Jenkins but I'd be suprised if Tom starts the season without a new deal



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